But that's how you get the facts. Now how are you going to form an opinion on what happened? By watching with your own two eyes?
Deion Encourages Fighting
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But that's how you get the facts. Now how are you going to form an opinion on what happened? By watching with your own two eyes?
it would've just been what Prime said and why from the horse's mouth
that's it
I fully understand the concept of "I don't like him so he's wrong and/or I don't care what he says" and am not here to argue the merits or lack thereof of going through life that way
I also hate CU and enjoy the vitriol we all still hold for our true rivals
interesting.
you must form your worldview based on extremely limited data if this is your approach (I suspect it's not).
I, on the other hand, listen almost exclusively to what people I don't like say.
Hilarious that you can’t see that this is exactly what you are doing. You have decided that your dude “Prime” can do no wrong and you will justify anything he does no matter how stupid.
Have you noticed that the only posters applauding this behavior and the three “Coach Prime” fanboys that lose their shit anytime he’s questioned? Yet you assume everyone else in the thread, who disagrees with his approach is just doing it because they don’t like him. The reality is, you are only OK with this because of the Coach and if Kurt, Burt, Dabo or whoever was doing this you would have a completely different view.
kong, you know me, I'm all about limited data. I gloss everything. lol
1. Incorrect. Ive said over and over there’s plenty not to like about Deion without manufacturing reasons like this
2. Correct. A couple even admitted as much. This wouldn’t be news if any other coach said it. How do I know? Because every coach in America says the same thing to his team (have each other’s backs) and it’s not been news.
kong, I'm guessing if I went back over the 207 replies in this thread and made it a: (A) Agree with Sanders approach or
(B) Do Not Agree with Sanders approach, the large majority would be in the 2nd group.
However, IF I eliminated your and Mrs. Jean's take, it would be outrageously Anti Sanders approach. Agree?
There is one more too (and their multiple screen names) but they aren't at all biased, it is literally everyone else.
Yes, and that advice from almost every coach would be similar to what Tuco said: (Paraphrasing)
Pull that dumbass # 68 away from the fight and get him off the field before the team suffers from his actions.
Of course
Because most read the headline, read the out of context quote and/or have preconceived notions (emotion)
Plus, it’s nice to swim in the warm current
Groupthink =/= correct
kong, you would be wise to adopt the following mantra:
You will know true genius when all the idiots in the Confederacy are lined up against him.
I think your initial thought "because most read........have preconceived notions (emotions)", falls on its face when you look at the approach Tuco took in his explanation. I seen no just reading of a headline, I seen nothing taken out of context, and I seen no preconceived notions. It was concise and simply came from a position of level headedness.
No, every coach does not say what “Prime” did. He didn’t just say to play for your teammates or have their back. He told his players to jump into a fight. “One fights, we all fight.”
Good coaches preach toughness, discipline, self control. You honestly believe coaches like TO, Saban, Smart, etc are out there telling their players to fight on the field? To jump into an altercation? No because that hurts the team.
And if it was any other coach on the planet you could admit it.
Tuco is focused on the fight, not the message
His response, while obviously correct, is neither here nor there
Prime may have done exactly what Tuco advised off camera. Or not. We don’t know & that wasn’t the point.
It’s not fake news, he said it. Your trying to invent what he really meant, or what you think he might have said off camera is fake news.
Thinking a P5 coach is encouraging his entire team to fight one another is laughable confirmation bias
Somewhere Don Lemon is blushing
Not sure that my focus was not on the message. I simply believe that getting your player away from a bad situation is better than joining him in a fight. I would rather have had all 10 other offensive players run to him and pull him away from the DB rather than join him in a fight against the other team. If #68 was the "victim" in the situation, that could possibly make a difference in my opinion. But that wasn't the case. #68 was being a dumbass, and going to his defense by pulling him away from the situation and making a bigger and dumber move would be a move of having your teammates back.
I agree it was dumb, but he said it, it’s on video in this very thread, feel free to watch it again.
You are choosing to ignore what the coach actually said, on video, because you’re such a big fanboy of his.
We agree.
Anything but turning your back on a teammate (the message).
You’ll notice he didn’t yell at the players who were actively breaking up the scuffle to instead fight their teammate (fake news).
Just the 2 who left their teammate high and dry.
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Do you work for the Biden Administration?
Ironic from the fake news perpetuator who wants a rigged popular vote to decide things
Look, Deion was a great former player. He's all about hyping his brand, no one can disagree with that.
I wouldn't put it past him to have told #68 at some point earlier to get into a skirmish and see what the other players do.
Outside of his star players, he don;t even know these guys.
That gave him a chance to get on his soapbox with video to highlight a nothing-burger of a pushing contest.
I would almost bet you, back in the day, TO had a suspicion when things were about to erupt with his squad of Christian Peters, Wistrom, Clinton Childs Lawrence and some of those other aggressive types.
Maybe a few days before a big game, TO seen nothing wrong with a couple of guys going at it. At some point, I suppose you have to let those types just get into it and let it rip.
But, it wasn't gonna be others jumping in. And he definitely wouldn't have chewed their ass for not having their teammates back, rather it would have been pull the dude away before the penalty flags start to fly.
Even in the games with those volatile, physical, aggressive types, how many fights can you remember a Nebraska player having in an actual football game?
Yeah, right? You want me to physically go back into the entire thread and count every fcvking response? I have lots of time, if it will shut you up about a faked vote pertaining to THIS thread.
I'll do a spreadsheet, then you can try to dissect it.
I have no idea why you continue to try to equate Deion with the greatest college football coach to ever live.
You said earlier he probably fears all his guys are “me” guys. I think you’re right.
Thus, this extraordinarily common and elementary message to his team.
I'll sort it into Pro Sanders Actions, versus Anti Sanders Actions. You game? I'll even list the post # for cross referencing.
You keep bringing up TO
Deion sanders and Tom Osborne take different approaches to coaching? Stop the presses!
The two don’t belong in the same stratosphere
I will assume the position that TO took during his career lines up perfectly with 90% of the other head coaches in the business.
This is a pointless exercise that will prove nothing
I’m pro truth, regardless where it comes from
Saying a P5 coach is encouraging his players to fight one another based on that video is simply and obviously not true
If that was indeed his goal, why not yell at the kids who actively stopped the fight?
