And we got to see O'Brien in some live game action as well as his last spring game. He couldn't throw it in the ocean. He was behind 2 walk ons on the depth chart when he left. Maybe he finds something as a 6th year senior game manager, but he was never going to work at NU. Andrew Bunch, Matt Masker and Noah Vedral were all better than O'Brien.
Nebraska has a little different scenario where we're not recruiting from a winning season and we don't have the talent pool in our "natural market". It is also true that we were playing some very young O linemen, RBs and WRs who really needed spring ball which they didn't get. No warm up games for them either. Call them excuses or call them reasons. I think logically if you're going to evaluate something you need to take some of the emotion out of the deal and move forward.
Again, you are missing the point of the retort.
Disagree on the Michigan front. They have had a slight downtick the last couple years but they were a legit dumpster fire for a few years before HB.
I hope the huskers don’t fall to this level
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O'Brien was zero so that line is accurate. Riley did not leave us a credible backup to Gebbia. Again, O'Brien was behind 2 walkons on the depth chart after spring football.
He's right, and I saw Gebbia, up close, in street clothes at the CWS. He was a smallish, tad under 6 foot tall, and about 180. Not an impressive build at all. Riley left the cupboard bare.
Good heavens. Look at the population base Michigan and Ohio have and how many 500 mile radius kids are on their teams. Yes they recruit nationally but they haven't had the string of losing seasons that NU has had to overcome on the recruiting front this year. Nebraska's number one recruiting tool is game day since we don't have recent success to sell.
That isn’t what you wrote, you wrote Riley left nothing but Gebbia. Simply inaccurate, Riley wasn’t recruiting for Frost’s offense. The fact that OBrien wasn’t a fit and was passed over by others isn’t relevant.
You had to preface it all with the "losing seasons" which is so simplistic. Since you think winning will solve some problems, just what does that record look like to get recruits to suddenly start looking at Nebraska? Just being in a populated area doesn't guarantee squat. How many of the top five HS players in Nebraska are staying in State? I haven't experienced game day at every stadium but I can't imagine there is a huge difference between ours and the top schools we should be competing against.
O'Brien isn't a fit for any offense. He's not a P5 level QB. The only P5 capable QB on the roster was Gebbia. Period. Riley failed. Frost failed in recruiting Luke to play QB. We'll see about Smothers and Haarberg.
66th now! What happened to all the talk about never finishing out of top 15 again. Even Riley Never finished dead Last!
Are we judging in July or December and I might add this will be a small class of 15-16 signees after today were half way there..
I don't disagree with any of that. I've posted before that I think he really needs to get to 7 and preferably 8 wins if he wants to build any momentum in recruiting. The excitement and honeymoon is over. He needs to win now. I'm not saying he would get fired if he only gets to 6 wins but it would make recruiting more difficult. The only reason I could see to not get to 7 would be injuries at QB. That would potentially be a killer.
Iowa is dead last and they just whiffed on another kid they thought for sure was going to announce for them. You guys at least take responsibility for your issues. They blame everyone else. Huskers will pick up steam but the birds to the East may be circling the drain.
That is what you have in Ames. Those 3 stars should have a decent year. Everyone just has to be on the same page to be successful
completely agree with this.
I guess I would probably try and figure out a way to keep the top players than not have them at all. At this point we don’t even have the top guys to lose.
fair point, but some would argue we didn't have the top guys we lost, either.
And the majority of them were from Florida that didn’t like being here after staying for a short period..
right. you'd think that'd be part of the vetting process, but then again, what do I know
I'm looking at the transfer portal for NU and the bulk transfers out are going to mid-majors.
Disagree. Unless your team is falling apart, a productive player will stick around for his teammates and coaches, and the life he has on campus. Starting over sucks. It's Jimmy Fourstar, hanging around the 3rd team that jumps ship after 2 years. The NFL will find every player worth finding. Moving from ISU to Alabama would more likely hurt you than help you. The portal is 99% fools gold.
Ok I’ll rephrase, I would figure out a way to attract and keep top talent rather than not have them at all.
Yes that is the goal, obviously. And a lot of different factors go into why guys transfer out. But we have had a run of bad luck with keeping some of our top shelf guys around. Perhaps that is the norm these days given how easy the portal has gotten.
Pennsy, you worried me with this post!
Whatever "mildly worried" is, we are at #61 just behind of UConn and Central Michigan. I don't "worry" abut such things I have no control over but the fact we don't even seem to be able to attract in-state talent - THAT would be time to worry, just a little don't you think? And this has been going on for close to two years now - that is worrisome.
The sheep business is great. Living the dream…Pennsy, you worried me with this post!
And yes, we "seem to be lagging behind" by a significant margin although we sit one spot over our rivals to the east. Oh wait, maybe I can't call them rivals.
I am not a math major but if we have 16 spots and 8 are taken, it would take a lot of highly ranked players to make that up. It also does not look good when we use the words "selective" and "small class" and then follow that with 3* athletes across the board. It would seem that if we are OK with getting quality 3* athletes, this class would normally be full.
And you provide some hope for a "solid season" but there is always that qualifier of "if". It seems that we hear this over and over - IF we get these guys, IF they stay, IF they develop, IF they play together, IF our young guys come along, IF the WR's finally show something, IF the RB room is finally fixed, IF the coaching staff gets things figured out, IF the special teams gets fixed and they go on and on.
I read your post several times and had to come on and give you grief about your choice of words. Take care man, how is the sheep business these days?
Good to hear your enjoying your sheep business at your age.
They almost certainly are. Every program has a way to make things sparkle. Then you get down to the nitty gritty of winning games and getting them ready for the league. I am convinced you could have a program in the slums but If you put guys in the NFL, they will come.Good to hear your enjoying your sheep business at your age.
I’m a little surprised we only have 8 commits regardless that this class will be small in numbers..
I’m wondering if they are showing the recruits coming here any virtual material on what the new facility will look like from the inside when completed.. We’ve seen what it would look like from the outside but not much inside..
I think Nebraska should just give up recruiting. Even with all the NIL, social media, new buildings, etc. it is a waste of time with our small population. I have no clue how we ever managed to win 5 NC's, 3 in the 90's with such a handicap.
