Bo Pelini

[TheBeav815]

The problem is that people tend to only believe what they want to believe.

For example - the group that believes Nebraska is still an elite job and that all we had to do was offer it to "home run" coach, believe Eichorst when he says Riley was the only guy he targeted.

If an athletic director calls a press conference to fire a coach that wins 9-10 wins every year, he can't say I fired him because he is a dick and was impossible to deal with. Pelini would have filed a defamation lawsuit the next day. So you find a reason to let him go like "gravitating to mediocrity" or "we aren't Iowa". It's simply AD speak.

It's just like when a coach introduces his recruiting class and says we got every guy we wanted or we expect every guy to contribute. Most people realize that is coach speak. It about getting the fan base excited for the future.

Same with the AD in hires, they are trying to save face in public perception. This is the only guy who was offered the job, we got who we wanted, no one is saying "I had conversations with 6 other guys, they all turned us down and this is the best guy we could find. We are hoping we can get back to winning titles, but we don't have the players on the roster to get anywhere near that. We will be rebuilding for a couple of years before we are ready to contend for a division title. Who's on board"

Coaches are smart enough to weigh the expectations of the fanbase against the talent on the roster they'll inherit. NU needed a rebuild in terms of the talent on the depth chart and the mindset in the locker room. Those were clearly priorities 1 and 2, and they have to be in place before you can get to 3. Step 3 is win. Step 4 is win big games.

The odds of being sunk by that bad talent gap and losing the support of the fans before you can get the wins are high at a place like Nebraska. We still think we're a top-flight school, but Boyd and the record book have told us that's not true right now. Elite coaches aren't out looking for rebuild projects. They want a roster that can win NOW like what Urban took over.

I don't know how anyone looks at the organization and the direction recruiting is trending in the staff's second full cycle and doesn't consider that an upgrade. I also don't know what the attachment was to beating 9 mediocre-to-bad teams a year and getting pimp slapped against highly ranked teams.

 

[Catch50]

It's amazing people want to say how great of a guy Bo was when all he did for the last few years as head coach at DONU was try to get himself fired and leave the recruiting in tatters for the next guy. All while collecting $3 million a year.

I don't think anybody is saying Bo is a great guy. He had many faults and some good qualities.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Bo Pelini sucked bad those last few years. I was absolutely all-in when he was hired, and at the end of year one. I wanted to give him a lifetime contract at the end of year two. Year three, there were definitely chinks in the armor, but I wanted to give him more time. He needed to go after the Wisconsin Big 10 championship, but how do you fire a guy after making the conference championship, regardless of score? When he wasn't canned after the post-game Iowa blowup, I was extremely disappointed. He needed to go. He was out of his element, and he clearly wanted out as well.

I guess I still don't understand why it's unreasonable to expect a coach to get better results than the previous fired coach in year 3. If it is unreasonable, can someone tell me which year it is going to be reasonable to have those expectations?

What I REALLY don't understand is why, on this board, if you expect more out of Riley, then you automatically loved everything about Bo Pelini. I know I didn't. Why does that make what I think a reasonable person like me( at least as deemed by most that know me) a Bloner or Blotard?

 

[bigboxes]

I can only answer for myself, but I saw an identity at Nebraska, one that worked for 30 years. We have seen others try doing it their way over and over again... and the recipe was and still is right there. Others in the division are using that recipe successfully too. It's maddening to see others use your own identity and have success while you remain identity-less and labeled a has been and laughing stock on national tv.

I don't want to see NU fail, but Shawn Eichorst does nothing to move the program toward the identity that so many loved and revered. This is why I question even being a fan anymore.. they are starting to lose me.. I don't identify with it.. no big running game at Nebraska? makes me sick to my stomach. I think with Bo, there was some hope that we could return to greatness. With SE & MR, we are off on some other rabbit hunt, and even if they do get it to work for a couple of years, MR retires, DL moves on to bigger and better things, and you're back to square one trying to recruit a pro style offense in an area where it doesn't make any sense. To me, it's one big waste of time.

That's not based on reality. Osborne changed NU's "identity" many times during his tenure. He was never static. I believe that he would have changed with the times had he possessed the elixir of youth.

 

[bigboxes]

I don't think either Bo or Riley are particularly great head football coaches. But at least Riley, unlike Bo, has held his friends on the staff accountable and fired them if they don't produce. And also unlike Bo, he embraces recruiting and the pressure that comes with being the head coach at a program like Nebraska.

And if he doesn't succeed here, I feel he will at least leave the next coach with a decent amount of talent and depth to work with.

Perfect. Riley may or may not succeed (conference/national championships) while here at NU. But he will leave the team in much better shape for his predecessor, regardless. People forget that it took Osborne 20 years to get NU to elite status. He was constantly changing his formula.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Perfect. Riley may or may not succeed (conference/national championships) while here at NU. But he will leave the team in much better shape for his predecessor, regardless. People forget that it took Osborne 20 years to get NU to elite status. He was constantly changing his formula.

That is correct and many people forget that - Osborne started with a big slow defense and transitioned to smaller quicker. He started with a pro style offense and transitioned to the option. I think the encouraging thing about Riley is that he is making decisions and moves with the team in mind. This was proven when he fired Banker who he had a long friendship with. If he keeps making logical and sounds decisions at some point that shows on the field.

The statement "Same with the AD in hires, they are trying to save face in public perception. This is the only guy who was offered the job, we got who we wanted, no one is saying "I had conversations with 6 other guys, they all turned us down and this is the best guy we could find. We are hoping we can get back to winning titles, but we don't have the players on the roster to get anywhere near that. We will be rebuilding for a couple of years before we are ready to contend for a division title. Who's on board"

If in fact this went down with SE this way - its a mistake, tell the fans the truth tell them we need to rebuild the talent base - why lie it creates false expectations

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

That is correct and many people forget that - Osborne started with a big slow defense and transitioned to smaller quicker. He started with a pro style offense and transitioned to the option. I think the encouraging thing about Riley is that he is making decisions and moves with the team in mind. This was proven when he fired Banker who he had a long friendship with. If he keeps making logical and sounds decisions at some point that shows on the field.

The statement "Same with the AD in hires, they are trying to save face in public perception. This is the only guy who was offered the job, we got who we wanted, no one is saying "I had conversations with 6 other guys, they all turned us down and this is the best guy we could find. We are hoping we can get back to winning titles, but we don't have the players on the roster to get anywhere near that. We will be rebuilding for a couple of years before we are ready to contend for a division title. Who's on board"

If in fact this went with SE this way - its a mistake tell the fans the truth tell them we need to rebuild the talent base - why lie it creates false expectations

Because telling the truth costs you money with donors, and already divided fan base becomes even further divided. People want to hear hope when they make a change. They don't want to hear reality. It's the same reason he said Riley was the only guy he looked at. We all know that's bull shit, but he wants to give the fan base the perception that he got the guy he wanted so the fan base would be behind the hire. If he said, I went after a couple of other coaches first but they said no, again the divided fan base becomes more divided. Donors start to hold their money instead of donating. People, on the fence, don't renew their tickets a year earlier.

The fact is this fan base couldnt handle the truth.

 

[nebcountry]

Bo Pelini sucked bad those last few years. I was absolutely all-in when he was hired, and at the end of year one. I wanted to give him a lifetime contract at the end of year two. Year three, there were definitely chinks in the armor, but I wanted to give him more time. He needed to go after the Wisconsin Big 10 championship, but how do you fire a guy after making the conference championship, regardless of score? When he wasn't canned after the post-game Iowa blowup, I was extremely disappointed. He needed to go. He was out of his element, and he clearly wanted out as well.

I guess I still don't understand why it's unreasonable to expect a coach to get better results than the previous fired coach in year 3. If it is unreasonable, can someone tell me which year it is going to be reasonable to have those expectations?

What I REALLY don't understand is why, on this board, if you expect more out of Riley, then you automatically loved everything about Bo Pelini. I know I didn't. Why does that make what I think a reasonable person like me( at least as deemed by most that know me) a Bloner or Blotard?

If you're a results person, it's reasonable to expect it now. If you're a hope person, you'll wait until after the fact.

If you expect more out of Riley, the hope crowd can't point to results, so they demonize Pelini and call names. That's the most effective way to distract attention away from Riley's inability to deliver tangible results.

 

[timnsun]

If you're a results person, it's reasonable to expect it now. If you're a hope person, you'll wait until after the fact.

If you expect more out of Riley, the hope crowd can't point to results, so they demonize Pelini and call names. That's the most effective way to distract attention away from Riley's inability to deliver tangible results.

So much for patience...

Just FYI, many of the "hope" crowd, as you label us, believe the results will be better. But even if they aren't, the hope crowd is also looking at the trend in improved recruiting, the positive vibe of this university as HS recruits see it (how many HS recruits this year have tweeted they gotta see what all the fuss is about?), and the professionalism of the entire football staff, and when you add it all together, it makes those in the hope crowd a little more patient than the results crowd.

The hope crowd recognizes the process that is involved with the changes taking place in the program. It's not as black and white as you want it to be.

As someone already pointed out, look at the all conference teams the last 5 years... Not too many huskers. Look at the draft... first time ever nebraska didn't have 2 people drafted. EVER.

One thing you forgot to mention about the hope crowd is looking at things realistically as well. Things will get better, but it may not be this year. Maybe I'd feel differently if we had a bunch of all conference players returning. Heck, maybe I'd feel differently if we had 3 all conference players returning. But since we don't, why should it be a now or never situation? Last year we had Westerkamp (3rd team be media and coaches), Gates (3rd team by media) and Gerry (3rd team coaches, 2nd team media). And seeing as we only have one of them back, well... why is this a do or die year for you?

Give it time, we will have all conference performers, probably as early as this fall. We will get more as each year goes by. And if it doesn't, we will be looking for a different coach.

 

[KFDVM]

Just hope when we are done with this thread we can move on and look at the present and the future. Put the past out of your mind just like a good player does.

 

[Toms Wife]

I don't think Shawn sat there and fed us a bunch of bull. He said there were expectations on championships and not losing games of substance. Furthermore, how does it help to lie about the players? Just don't say anything or say "we got good players." If he flat out played the fans, then he doesn't think much of us as a fan base.

Shawn's best day period was that press conference. He took responsibility for the firing and laid out the expectations for Husker football. Why some folks want to walk that back is beyond me.

 

[timnsun]

I don't think Shawn sat there and fed us a bunch of bull. He said there were expectations on championships and not losing games of substance. Furthermore, how does it help to lie about the players? Just don't say anything or say "we got good players." If he flat out played the fans, then he doesn't think much of us as a fan base.

Shawn's best day period was that press conference. He took responsibility for the firing and laid out the expectations for Husker football. Why some folks want to walk that back is beyond me.

Please stop, Miss. there is no distinction between you and your husband, and no understanding of coach/AD speak...

 

[headcard]

If you're a results person, it's reasonable to expect it now. If you're a hope person, you'll wait until after the fact.

If you expect more out of Riley, the hope crowd can't point to results, so they demonize Pelini and call names. That's the most effective way to distract attention away from Riley's inability to deliver tangible results.

Or you can live in reality and assess the entire situation as it is today. The reality is that Riley inherited a sinking ship, fixed the culture and has us back to where we were before he got here, with 9 wins, 4 loss and a couple ugly losses.

 

[headcard]

I guess I still don't understand why it's unreasonable to expect a coach to get better results than the previous fired coach in year 3. If it is unreasonable, can someone tell me which year it is going to be reasonable to have those expectations?

Some posters want to act like Pelini was playing for Championships year after year, when we were actually pulling off miracles to get to 9 wins the last couple years (Westerkamp's hail marry, DPE's punt return, Ameer's miracle TD against McNeese Freaking State). Last year, we were a pretty average 9-win team, just like we were for most of Pelini's tenure. And we were on a pretty fast slide under Pelini, I don't think there is anyway he would have had us winning 9-10 games either of the last two years (we barely did it with Ameer carrying the O and DPE returning every punt for TD's), I guess the AD should have just let him bottom out and burn the whole thing down on his way out, right? That way the new guy could have better results right away.

 

[Toms Wife]

Nobody thinks 3 championship games in 7 years in a couple of the most putrid divisions in college football was outstanding.

Nobody thinks he handled the pressure of being head coach very well.

Nobody thinks nine wins with blowouts meets expectations.

Nobody wants Bo back as head coach.

Some simply don't want the goalposts of expectation moved for Husker football.

 

[suhnami]

Perfect. Riley may or may not succeed (conference/national championships) while here at NU. But he will leave the team in much better shape for his predecessor, regardless. People forget that it took Osborne 20 years to get NU to elite status. He was constantly changing his formula.

Wasn't Osborne playing for national championships 10 years in?

 

[headcard]

Nobody thinks 3 championship games in 7 years in a couple of the most putrid divisions in college football was outstanding.

Nobody thinks he handled the pressure of being head coach very well.

Nobody thinks nine wins with blowouts meets expectations.

Nobody wants Bo back as head coach.

Some simply don't want the goalposts of expectation moved for Husker football.

So you don't want to assess the situation and monitor progress, you just want to bitch. Gottcha.

 

[timnsun]

Nobody thinks 3 championship games in 7 years in a couple of the most putrid divisions in college football was outstanding.

Nobody thinks he handled the pressure of being head coach very well.

Nobody thinks nine wins with blowouts meets expectations.

Nobody wants Bo back as head coach.

Some simply don't want the goalposts of expectation moved for Husker football.

This is pure Tom speak. Why can't you admit who you are?

 

[bigboxes]

Wasn't Osborne playing for national championships 10 years in?

Technically, yes. However, he was just starting to win conference championships @ year ten. What he was experiencing was getting rolled by speedier Florida schools. That wouldn't change until year 20 when they finally recruited speed on D. For years, Osborne was known as the coach who could beat up the Big 8, but not win the big one.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

This is pure Tom speak. Why can't you admit who you are?

Because that's what he is. A coward. @headcard got it right when he mentioned bitch.

 

[nebcountry]

So much for patience...

Just FYI, many of the "hope" crowd, as you label us, believe the results will be better. But even if they aren't, the hope crowd is also looking at the trend in improved recruiting, the positive vibe of this university as HS recruits see it (how many HS recruits this year have tweeted they gotta see what all the fuss is about?), and the professionalism of the entire football staff, and when you add it all together, it makes those in the hope crowd a little more patient than the results crowd.

The hope crowd recognizes the process that is involved with the changes taking place in the program. It's not as black and white as you want it to be.

As someone already pointed out, look at the all conference teams the last 5 years... Not too many huskers. Look at the draft... first time ever nebraska didn't have 2 people drafted. EVER.

One thing you forgot to mention about the hope crowd is looking at things realistically as well. Things will get better, but it may not be this year. Maybe I'd feel differently if we had a bunch of all conference players returning. Heck, maybe I'd feel differently if we had 3 all conference players returning. But since we don't, why should it be a now or never situation? Last year we had Westerkamp (3rd team be media and coaches), Gates (3rd team by media) and Gerry (3rd team coaches, 2nd team media). And seeing as we only have one of them back, well... why is this a do or die year for you?

Give it time, we will have all conference performers, probably as early as this fall. We will get more as each year goes by. And if it doesn't, we will be looking for a different coach.

Jumping around, this is not a do or die year for me. Riley just needs to win 7 regular season games to meet my minimum expectation level this year. Why 7? Because average P5 football teams can win 7 games. Because we finally jettisoned some more of the inbred OrSU coaches and will be installing a new defense this year. I can only think of a couple on here, or other message boards, that are conference championship do or die.

Reality is a bitter pill to swallow. I'm the one with a black cloud over me, according to some on here. Unfortunately, we've had enough talent to win 9 games for far too long, but not enough talent to win more. The sad part is our coaching staff decided to square peg it the first year, and they blew one year's worth of good will. I hate the 9-win standard, but unfortunately it may be the upper end on what can be delivered this year.

Or you can live in reality and assess the entire situation as it is today. The reality is that Riley inherited a sinking ship, fixed the culture and has us back to where we were before he got here, with 9 wins, 4 loss and a couple ugly losses.

Things have to happen in order to be called "reality". So basically you're saying Riley has us back to where we were before he got here. Um ya, I don't know too many people that would call that success.

 

[headcard]

Jumping around, this is not a do or die year for me. Riley just needs to win 7 regular season games to meet my minimum expectation level this year. Why 7? Because average P5 football teams can win 7 games. Because we finally jettisoned some more of the inbred OrSU coaches and will be installing a new defense this year. I can only think of a couple on here, or other message boards, that are conference championship do or die.

Reality is a bitter pill to swallow. I'm the one with a black cloud over me, according to some on here. Unfortunately, we've had enough talent to win 9 games for far too long, but not enough talent to win more. The sad part is our coaching staff decided to square peg it the first year, and they blew one year's worth of good will. I hate the 9-win standard, but unfortunately it may be the upper end on what can be delivered this year.



Things have to happen in order to be called "reality". So basically you're saying Riley has us back to where we were before he got here. Um ya, I don't know too many people that would call that success.

So you think he should have been able to take the roster he inherited and win big right away? OK

 

[timnsun]

Jumping around, this is not a do or die year for me. Riley just needs to win 7 regular season games to meet my minimum expectation level this year. Why 7? Because average P5 football teams can win 7 games. Because we finally jettisoned some more of the inbred OrSU coaches and will be installing a new defense this year. I can only think of a couple on here, or other message boards, that are conference championship do or die.

Reality is a bitter pill to swallow. I'm the one with a black cloud over me, according to some on here. Unfortunately, we've had enough talent to win 9 games for far too long, but not enough talent to win more. The sad part is our coaching staff decided to square peg it the first year, and they blew one year's worth of good will. I hate the 9-win standard, but unfortunately it may be the upper end on what can be delivered this year.



Things have to happen in order to be called "reality". So basically you're saying Riley has us back to where we were before he got here. Um ya, I don't know too many people that would call that success.

So what I am hearing from you is that the excitement over recruiting does nothin for you, the new coaches do nothing for you, the professionalism does nothing for you... all that matters is wins.

It doesn't matter what dumpster fire we had when Riley arrived, it doesn't matter that we are getting serious consideration from 5 star talent, there is no equity in any of this...

You have nothing to look forward to except the wins. A minimum of 7 for you.

Man, sorry you can't find more to be happy about in this process.

 

[nebcountry]

So you think he should have been able to take the roster he inherited and win big right away? OK

Win big? No.

 

[timnsun]

Jumping around, this is not a do or die year for me. Riley just needs to win 7 regular season games to meet my minimum expectation level this year. Why 7? Because average P5 football teams can win 7 games. Because we finally jettisoned some more of the inbred OrSU coaches and will be installing a new defense this year. I can only think of a couple on here, or other message boards, that are conference championship do or die.

Reality is a bitter pill to swallow. I'm the one with a black cloud over me, according to some on here. Unfortunately, we've had enough talent to win 9 games for far too long, but not enough talent to win more. The sad part is our coaching staff decided to square peg it the first year, and they blew one year's worth of good will. I hate the 9-win standard, but unfortunately it may be the upper end on what can be delivered this year.



Things have to happen in order to be called "reality". So basically you're saying Riley has us back to where we were before he got here. Um ya, I don't know too many people that would call that success.

And to use your words, after square pegging it he still got to 9 wins with a QB not designed for this offense and a defense led by a guy you couldn't stand, who didn't belong in Red.

To me, that's not too bad of a job considering what he had to work with. Now with his own QB and a proven D Coordinator, talent coming in, etc, wouldn't the sky be the limit?

Come on Eeyore, you've gotta see a silver lining somewhere...

 

[nebcountry]

So what I am hearing from you is that the excitement over recruiting does nothin for you, the new coaches do nothing for you, the professionalism does nothing for you... all that matters is wins.

It doesn't matter what dumpster fire we had when Riley arrived, it doesn't matter that we are getting serious consideration from 5 star talent, there is no equity in any of this...

You have nothing to look forward to except the wins. A minimum of 7 for you.

Man, sorry you can't find more to be happy about in this process.

I'm excited about this year's recruiting class, it's shaping up to be a potentially very good to great class. Professionalism? It just seems to me like most coaches handle themselves in a professional manner. So, it's not an important criteria for me, obviously you wouldn't want to hire a horses rear end.

And to use your words, after square pegging it he still got to 9 wins with a QB not designed for this offense and a defense led by a guy you couldn't stand, who didn't belong in Red.

To me, that's not too bad of a job considering what he had to work with. Now with his own QB and a proven D Coordinator, talent coming in, etc, wouldn't the sky be the limit?

Come on Eeyore, you've gotta see a silver lining somewhere...

You can use my words. We've had talent to win 9 games. We can give Riley the same trophy we gave Pelini for winning 9 games.

Callahan was an offensive genius, Pelini a defensive genius. It's kind of strange how these geniuses need top tier talent to make them look good. I do think Diaco will do a lot better for us though. I'm not saying this to get anybody worked up, but there is a cautionary tale somewhere in there.

The program is in better shape now. And if we exclude talking about wins and losses, I think Riley will improve it more. So I'm not all sour grapes.

Eeyore? You're better than that.

 

[timnsun]

I'm excited about this year's recruiting class, it's shaping up to be a potentially very good to great class. Professionalism? It just seems to me like most coaches handle themselves in a professional manner. So, it's not an important criteria for me, obviously you wouldn't want to hire a horses rear end.



You can use my words. We've had talent to win 9 games. We can give Riley the same trophy we gave Pelini for winning 9 games.

Callahan was an offensive genius, Pelini a defensive genius. It's kind of strange how these geniuses need top tier talent to make them look good. I do think Diaco will do a lot better for us though. I'm not saying this to get anybody worked up, but there is a cautionary tale somewhere in there.

The program is in better shape now. And if we exclude talking about wins and losses, I think Riley will improve it more. So I'm not all sour grapes.

Eeyore? You're better than that.

Thank you for this response… I do appreciate the thought that you put into it. It seems like this is the first time, although I easily could've missed previous occasions, where you shared a little more optimism. As far as Eeyore goes, I thought that was safer than Debbie Downer.

 

[bigboxes]

 

[huskerfan1414]

So much for patience...

Just FYI, many of the "hope" crowd, as you label us, believe the results will be better. But even if they aren't, the hope crowd is also looking at the trend in improved recruiting, the positive vibe of this university as HS recruits see it (how many HS recruits this year have tweeted they gotta see what all the fuss is about?), and the professionalism of the entire football staff, and when you add it all together, it makes those in the hope crowd a little more patient than the results crowd.

The hope crowd recognizes the process that is involved with the changes taking place in the program. It's not as black and white as you want it to be.

As someone already pointed out, look at the all conference teams the last 5 years... Not too many huskers. Look at the draft... first time ever nebraska didn't have 2 people drafted. EVER.

One thing you forgot to mention about the hope crowd is looking at things realistically as well. Things will get better, but it may not be this year. Maybe I'd feel differently if we had a bunch of all conference players returning. Heck, maybe I'd feel differently if we had 3 all conference players returning. But since we don't, why should it be a now or never situation? Last year we had Westerkamp (3rd team be media and coaches), Gates (3rd team by media) and Gerry (3rd team coaches, 2nd team media). And seeing as we only have one of them back, well... why is this a do or die year for you?

Give it time, we will have all conference performers, probably as early as this fall. We will get more as each year goes by. And if it doesn't, we will be looking for a different coach.

I think one problem is people look at this subconciously as either Bo or Mike, and thats it.
My fear with Riley has always been that Bo set the bar so low that because Mike actually likes it here and has an actual recruiting plan, it would blind people to being rational about the results. It is possible to have all of this and winning, we should expect it at a place like NU. If we dont have Mike, it doesnt have to be Bo.

Dont overreact and take this as me saying Riley sucks and we should fire him. That isnt what Im saying at all. It just seems that whenever this is brought up the discussion is always Bo vs. Mike as if those are the only two options/types of coaches NU has ever had or ever can have. Its possible to have nice guys that win, too.
(And before you jump all over me, Im the one saying we will have a good chance at 10 wins this year).

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Square peg in round hole in 2015 had better offensive numbers than the dumbed down offense last year. Sadly, the reason for the improvement in record was mostly about defensive improvement, especially in defending the pass.

2015 496 rushes for 2340 yards 24 TDs

2016 523 rushes for 2199 yards and 24 TD

2015 256/458 for 3470 yards 27 TD 21 int

2016 201/400 for 2752 yards 18 Td 9 int

Almost 1000 More total yards. Weird huh

 

[timnsun]

I think one problem is people look at this subconciously as either Bo or Mike, and thats it.
My fear with Riley has always been that Bo set the bar so low that because Mike actually likes it here and has an actual recruiting plan, it would blind people to being rational about the results. It is possible to have all of this and winning, we should expect it at a place like NU. If we dont have Mike, it doesnt have to be Bo.

Dont overreact and take this as me saying Riley sucks and we should fire him. That isnt what Im saying at all. It just seems that whenever this is brought up the discussion is always Bo vs. Mike as if those are the only two options/types of coaches NU has ever had or ever can have. Its possible to have nice guys that win, too.
(And before you jump all over me, Im the one saying we will have a good chance at 10 wins this year).

This post makes me happy and sad all at once... I liked your post a lot and agree with it. What makes me sad is that you thought I would jump all over you. I guess maybe I have that reputation… I could do better.

 

[bigboxes]

Square peg in round hole in 2015 had better offensive numbers than the dumbed down offense last year. Sadly, the reason for the improvement in record was mostly about defensive improvement, especially in defending the pass.

2015 496 rushes for 2340 yards 24 TDs

2016 523 rushes for 2199 yards and 24 TD

2015 256/458 for 3470 yards 27 TD 21 int

2016 201/400 for 2752 yards 18 Td 9 int

Almost 1000 More total yards. Weird huh

But.... our offensive line was in tatters, tommy was a gimp at the end of the year and by dumbing it down our INTs went from 24 down to 9. I say that fewer turnovers wins ballgames as well.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Square peg in round hole in 2015 had better offensive numbers than the dumbed down offense last year. Sadly, the reason for the improvement in record was mostly about defensive improvement, especially in defending the pass.

2015 496 rushes for 2340 yards 24 TDs

2016 523 rushes for 2199 yards and 24 TD

2015 256/458 for 3470 yards 27 TD 21 int

2016 201/400 for 2752 yards 18 Td 9 int

Almost 1000 More total yards. Weird huh

Banker's first year defense was the 'attack the ball' defense that so many people on here lauded as being the answer to our defensive prayers. It failed miserably. It's funny, cause in year 2, Mark quietly switched the calls to more of a Bo style read & react defense, and things got much better.

 

[Mack In Motion]

Pelini went out extremely poorly for someone who is supposed to be a role model and mentor.

Next man up.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Banker's first year defense was the 'attack the ball' defense that so many people on here lauded as being the answer to our defensive prayers. It failed miserably. It's funny, cause in year 2, Mark quietly switched the calls to more of a Bo style read & react defense, and things got much better.

I guess. More zone in the back end for sure. A second year in the defense and an offense that didn't have to play catchup helped as well.

The 2015 defense didn't really attack, they didn't blitz a ton, they just put the DBs in man a lot

 

[huskernaut]

I am glad Bo is gone and happy that recruiting looks really good...but I (and many others) would LOVE to go off on our boss if we were to get canned. I mean, it is kind of like a dream

I imagine this happened but isn't it just a little odd that there was no story/tweet/FB post/Snapchat about it at all?

Say there were 8 kids on each team and that each had 1 parent at the game. That makes 16 parents at the game. Add in a few others that help out with running the gym that day and you probably have over 20 people there...

20 people and not one tweeted out a picture/video of the head coach of Nebraska getting "kicked out" of a middle school basketball game?

Doesn't that seem almost odd?

I have no clue why there wasn't a tweet, video, etc. It wasn't even in Lincoln. People were probably scared bo would come after them, I don't know. My buddy was the ref, obviously he's not going to whip his phone out. It's not like it just happened yesterday, Bo's been gone for a couple years now. Bo's an asshole, don't take that away from him.

 

[spartanhusker]

O

Not really.
There had to be at least 100 people in Hy-Vee on Christmas Eve day when Bo bought all of the little smokies and left none for the rest of us.
I didn't see a tweet about it.

oh, my goodness......STILL laughing!!!!!

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I have no clue why there wasn't a tweet, video, etc. It wasn't even in Lincoln. People were probably scared bo would come after them, I don't know. My buddy was the ref, obviously he's not going to whip his phone out. It's not like it just happened yesterday, Bo's been gone for a couple years now. Bo's an asshole, don't take that away from him.

I agree but the story doesn't jive. No head coach of a major program is getting kicked out of a middle school basketball game without it making social media.

 

[suhnami]

I just feel bad for all thos chicks who bough those "My Bo-friend is back" shirts.

No i dont.

 

[DukeOfSorrow]

I agree but the story doesn't jive. No head coach of a major program is getting kicked out of a middle school basketball game without it making social media.

I actually agree. By year 4 or 5 there was a significant anti-Bo movement, there's no way those guys would have let something like this go. Especially judging by the reaction of the audio and the drama that followed.