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Big 12 winner?

Yes you are absolutely correct. No argument from me. I'm just curious, in this day and age of electronic intrusion, THEY surely know who's watching vs subscribing. Dish sure sends me a bunch of crap channels I NEVER watch but they sure know what channels I watch at what time of day.

They used to have the Nielsen ratings where they paid families to log their TV viewing. Now my dang phone knows what we've been talking about in the kitchen
But it doesn't matter if you watch. If you never watch a minute of HGTV they still get a their share from the cable company. Advertisers care about viewership, not cable companies.
 
But it doesn't matter if you watch. If you never watch a minute of HGTV they still get a their share from the cable company. Advertisers care about viewership, not cable companies.
True but if I'm an advertiser/company, I would want to know actual eyes so I could focus there. Should be more value. If not getting sold swap land lol 😆....we're probably splitting hairs. I totally get what you're saying. That's reality today....I'm suggesting it's not accurate even though it is what it is
 
Yes you are absolutely correct. No argument from me. I'm just curious, in this day and age of electronic intrusion, THEY surely know who's watching vs subscribing. Dish sure sends me a bunch of crap channels I NEVER watch but they sure know what channels I watch at what time of day.

They used to have the Nielsen ratings where they paid families to log their TV viewing. Now my dang phone knows what we've been talking about in the kitchen
You bring up a really good point. Your home wifi router is also now eavesdropping on everything they can on your home network.

I have had to resort to putting a router (that I control) in front of the cable companies router, just to reduce the amount of information leak.

I know Xfinity in Florida is capturing all kinds of stuff from your device names, to dns lookups by machine, websites you are visiting, flagging dangerous activity etc. I imagine all the other big cable players in the US are doing the same.
 
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True but if I'm an advertiser/company, I would want to know actual eyes so I could focus there. Should be more value. If not getting sold swap land lol 😆....we're probably splitting hairs. I totally get what you're saying. That's reality today....I'm suggesting it's not accurate even though it is what it is
Ok Just so I am clear. If I want to have a baseball card radio show and I pay the company $x per month to allow me to run my show every Saturday for 3 hours, the radio company doesn't care how I make the payments. They are getting $x every month from me. That is the cable company to the Big Ten. Now if I want advertisers to pay for my $x per month and more, I sell commercial spots. THEY are going to care about results and listeners, not the company that owns the readio station. If I don't get any listeners, I will lose sponsors and advertisers, but the radio station is still getting their money from me, until I can no longer pay.

The college football landscape is similar but there are some differences. The basic premise is the same though.
 
True but if I'm an advertiser/company, I would want to know actual eyes so I could focus there. Should be more value. If not getting sold swap land lol 😆....we're probably splitting hairs. I totally get what you're saying. That's reality today....I'm suggesting it's not accurate even though it is what it is
I suspect the cable companies know exactly down to the second what programs you’re watching.
 
Big 12 media deal - $2.3 billion until 2031

BIG media deal -$7 billion until 2030

Even if the BIG deal gets watered down it’s going to be more than double the big 12
The Athletic reported it was an $8 billion TV contract. So that $7 billion might even be a little low.
 
Does the average fan really GAF how much their school has in the bank? ...or is this just an argument they make when they can't brag about their success on the field or court or diamond?
A conference’s job is to get the most money for its product. If the big12 is the superior product as some claim and they negotiated a deal worth less then half their competitors then they are idiots
 
Does the average fan really GAF how much their school has in the bank? ...or is this just an argument they make when they can't brag about their success on the field or court or diamond?
No, I don't think the average fan cares. But I think a lot of schools that don't have game day revenue like NU probably really care about that tv money and its critical to sustaining their athletic department.
 
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A conference’s job is to get the most money for its product. If the big12 is the superior product as some claim and they negotiated a deal worth less then half their competitors then they are idiots

Been hearing the Big 12 is going to collapse ever since we bailed...not only did that not happen, they've rebounded nicely...your posts read like an extension of the fan who has been wrong about the Big 12 forever...and bragging about conference TV money is all the Big 12 detractors have left. Whoopee.
 
A conference’s job is to get the most money for its product. If the big12 is the superior product as some claim and they negotiated a deal worth less then half their competitors then they are idiots

Who's claiming that? I don't think anyone really thinks the new Big12 is a superior product. Can't speak for everyone else, but I just think they actually did a pretty good job of keeping a conference together through all of this. Especially considering so many have been predicting their collapse for years now...you know, like we did when we left.

edit: @litespeedhuskerfan beat me to it
 
Been hearing the Big 12 is going to collapse ever since we bailed...not only did that not happen, they've rebounded nicely...your posts read like an extension of the fan who has been wrong about the Big 12 forever...and bragging about conference TV money is all the Big 12 detractors have left. Whoopee.
It's a good conference with these latest moves. I like it. I personally wouldn't go crawling back but I also wouldn't care if we did. I think both conferences got better with these latest moves. I'll watch NU religiously no matter what conference they are in.
 
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Been hearing the Big 12 is going to collapse ever since we bailed...not only did that not happen, they've rebounded nicely...your posts read like an extension of the fan who has been wrong about the Big 12 forever...and bragging about conference TV money is all the Big 12 detractors have left. Whoopee.
You r a fan of one the worst combined football - basketball programs in all of major sports - yet the school and athletic dept pulls in >2x bIg12 schools based on conference affiliated welfare

I have said many times I would be more than in favor of payouts to individual schools being peformamced based
 
It's a good conference with these latest moves. I like it. I personally wouldn't go crawling back but I also wouldn't care if we did. I think both conferences got better with these latest moves. I'll watch NU religiously no matter what conference they are in.
I agree they have done a great job of collecting schools that the Big and SEC don’t want
 
You r a fan of one the worst combined football - basketball programs in all of major sports - yet the school and athletic dept pulls in >2x bIg12 schools based on conference affiliated welfare

You're right. I am a fan of the Huskers....and it could not possibly matter less to me that we collect more money from the Big 10 than schools collect in the Big 12....whoopee.
 
And the B1G did a nice job of collecting schools the SEC didn't want. So, what's your point?
Fair enough with regards to SEC.
Few if any Big teams would leave for the SEC if able and probably vice versa

name a big12 that would not leave in a second if a big offer was extended - most have made it very well known they would accept an invite

The 4 highest valued programs in the PAC12 despite all of them have big12 offers opted for the BIG (2 of them decided they would rather take 1/2 payouts from the BIG rather than full shares from the B12)
 
You r a fan of one the worst combined football - basketball programs in all of major sports - yet the school and athletic dept pulls in >2x bIg12 schools based on conference affiliated welfare

I have said many times I would be more than in favor of payouts to individual schools being peformamced based
By performance based I assume you mean tv viewership? Look at NU's financial contribution to the conference. It wouldn't make sense to ding us for on-field performance when we get a lot of eyeballs for games.
 
Fair enough with regards to SEC.
Few if any Big teams would leave for the SEC if able and probably vice versa

name a big12 that would not leave in a second if a big offer was extended - most have made it very well known they would accept an invite

The 4 highest valued programs in the PAC12 despite all of them have big12 offers opted for the BIG (2 of them decided they would rather take 1/2 payouts from the BIG rather than full shares from the B12)

Dude, what’s your point? The B1G bought themselves a nice little 2nd tier league. And the Big 12 bought themselves a nice little 3rd tier league. Yay! Incessantly bragging about being 2nd tier and beating your chest about not being 3rd tier seems pretty lame.
 
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By performance based I assume you mean tv viewership? Look at NU's financial contribution to the conference. It wouldn't make sense to ding us for on-field performance when we get a lot of eyeballs for games.
According to many in this thread all that matters is onfield performance - so yes base it solely on performance - remember $ doesn’t matter -
Just winning
 
Dude, what’s your point? The B1G bought themselves a nice little 2nd tier league. And the Big 12 bought themselves a nice little 3rd tier league. Yay! Incently bragging about being 2nd tier and beating your chest about not being 3rd tier seems pretty lame.
The thread title is big12 winner? with a fair amount of support.
If the B12 is 3rd tier then clearly the B12 is not anywhere close to the winner
 
You r a fan of one the worst combined football - basketball programs in all of major sports - yet the school and athletic dept pulls in >2x bIg12 schools based on conference affiliated welfare

I have said many times I would be more than in favor of payouts to individual schools being peformamced based
So by this post you’re admitting your not a Husker fan.. As a admitted fraud who are you fan of?
 
I'm kinda thinking both the b1g and big 12, had they had a crystal ball, would not have added some schools. No way big12 takes Cincinnati and ucf if they would have known they would get the pac12 leftovers that they did. Maryland and Rutgers as well. I really wonder how many viewers vs TV sets are really gained in the DC area and NY
That feeds into something I posted a couple months ago (I heard it on Ralph Russo's podcast). Eventually, conferences are going to cull the herd. Down the road, many predict that future TV deals will be smaller. It's like what Washington State is facing now. The prospect of running athletics without that $30 million in expected TV revenue. At that point, the best schools will be demanding a larger share - a la USC & UCLA in the Pac 12 and currently Florida St- and then the discussion will be to get rid of some teams.
 
So by this post you’re admitting your not a Husker fan.. As an admitted fraud who are you fan of?
No - stating “you” are a Husker fan does not preclude that I am also a Husker fan. It was a post directed at an individual (singular). Is English your native language?
 
No - stating “you” are a Husker fan does not preclude that I am also a Husker fan. It was a post directed at an individual (singular). Is English your native language?
you seem to be rubbing a collection of NU fans the wrong way...I suggest reform is of need
 
The thread title is big12 winner? with a fair amount of support.
If the B12 is 3rd tier then clearly the B12 is not anywhere close to the winner

Well, I took that as the Big 12 won by keeping the conference alive and positioned themselves for future sustainability given how many predicted their collapse, etc. But okay. So, if someone starts a thread titled "B1G winner?" you'll be quick to run over there and argue how much the SEC is the real winner?
 
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No - stating “you” are a Husker fan does not preclude that I am also a Husker fan. It was a post directed at an individual (singular). Is English your native language?
Your posts last week reeked of being anti Husker fan and plenty of us pointed that out..

My comprehension is just fine sniffing out a troll..
 
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Well, I took that as the Big 12 won by keeping the conference alive and positioned themselves for future sustainability given how many predicted their collapse, etc. But okay. So, if someone starts a thread titled "B1G winner?" you'll be quick to run over there and argue how much the SEC is the real winner?
I would have to see the financials

You all can have your employee of the year plaque proudly displayed on your wall while I’m taking home the bigger paycheck
 
I would have to see the financials

You all can have your employee of the year plaque proudly displayed on your wall while I’m taking home the bigger paycheck

So, as a "fan" of a school, all you care about is which school makes the most money? Well, guess we figured out you're an Ohio State fan then. Good work outing yourself.
 
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So, as a "fan" of a school, all you care about is which school makes the most money? Well, guess we figured out you're an Ohio State fan then. Good work outing yourself.
No - I want to win and be paid the most money

But if I am a lower tier school in a conference I would rather be Nebraska in the BIG and cashing larger checks than Vanderbilt cashing lesser checks but somehow believing I get some self worth by chanting “SEC SEC SEC”
 
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Cannot help but wonder if Texas and OU would have stayed if the Big 12 had invited these schools months ago...regardless, props to the Big 12 for makin it happen when a lot of people tbought they were dead in the water.
Good point because it’s going to be a whole lot tougher for them in the sec than had they stayed in the big 12
 
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No - I want to win and be paid the most money

But if I am a lower tier school in a conference I would rather be Nebraska in the BIG and cashing larger checks than Vanderbilt cashing lesser checks but somehow believing I get some self worth by chanting “SEC SEC SEC”
When is Trev/the chancellor finally going to throw a B1G media check cashing party??

Literally every Husker fan has been clamoring for it for years

Millions of dollars left on the table. Would absolutely outdraw volleyball. Smh
 
No - I want to win and be paid the most money

But if I am a lower tier school in a conference I would rather be Nebraska in the BIG and cashing larger checks than Vanderbilt cashing lesser checks but somehow believing I get some self worth by chanting “SEC SEC SEC”

You are chanting "money"...different words yes, but also the exact same thing....you're saying we're a lower tier school but we're getting rich!! Vandy is saying they're a lower tier school, but we're in the SEC!!...both are an odd thing to brag about kind of mentality.....and I think the SEC recently inked a deal that will be the richest payout amongst all conferences didn't they? Google could tell me for sure...but I thought they had and don't care enough to double check because I could not care less....and is our deal you keep bragging about actually signed yet? Don't know for sure and again DGAF to double check.

The concept of thumping your chest because of TV money goes over my head.
 
You are chanting "money"...different words yes, but also the exact same thing....you're saying we're a lower tier school but we're getting rich!! Vandy is saying they're a lower tier school, but we're in the SEC!!...both are an odd thing to brag about kind of mentality.....and I think the SEC recently inked a deal that will be the richest payout amongst all conferences didn't they? Google could tell me for sure...but I thought they had and don't care enough to double check because I could not care less....and is our deal you keep bragging about actually signed yet? Don't know for sure and again DGAF to double check.

The concept of thumping your chest because of TV money goes over my head.
Likewise stanning for a conference because they figured out a way to simply exist goes over my head
 
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