Posters points are often lost when they embellish or mislead their adjective. There are ass kickings and there are ass kickings. Trying to describe Michigans one score loss with higher offensive output as getting the sh*t kicked out of them is an embellishment any rational purpose would agree with.
Big 12 winner?
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the swc, (a collection of cheating) when it ended, houston was firing on all cylinders...there's a reason ut and a&m blocked them from the big 12...
houston can come back pretty quick if they keep players home..and they have plenty nil oil money to do it.
Yes, flights east to west typically take longer because you have to fight a head wind, but the west coast teams lose time Traveling east. So a noon kickoff at Rutgers will feel like 9 am to those schools.
As far as the time zone stuff goes, I believe Rhule was talking about the following week and how the East Coast to West Coast travel affects teams more. He said something to the effect of a day per time zone to get back to a normal body clock. And was saying that teams don’t feel normal until Thursday. Which affects the preparation for the next game more than it does the week of the actual East to west travel.
That may be the case for guys his age, but I don't think it applies to college kids. I traveled all over the country when I was a kid. Remember jet lag having about an hour impact, if that. Certainly not days. Especially on a weekend trip. Now? Yeah for sure. Daylight savings time hits and I'm effed up for like a week. Gets worse every year, much like a lot of things that didn't effect me when I was younger. Sorry, Rhule but you're reaching on that one.
I think both conferences did good but adding Utah was a big get IMO. I could see Utah being the top dawg more years then not.
ACC has to have an uneasy feeling in their stomach. Just a matter of time.
Your mind is already made up
Doesn’t matter what teams I say (kst, utah, okst, etc.), your dogma is set
I think it's safe to say who the biggest loser is.
Wonder if the Bay Area bow ties still think San Diego State is not worthy of joining the Pac-12?
Wonder if the Bay Area bow ties still think San Diego State is not worthy of joining the Pac-12?
Big 12 stayed ahead of the grim reaper by negotiating a better media contract than the PAC and proactively adding teams to make up for departures. So, they won vs. the PAC and ACC but still not competitive with B1G and SEC.
It takes my students in school a week to recover from daylight savings time. Let alone three daylight savings times at the same time.
Since championships are all that matter, we'll just have to see how many the Big 12 gets in football over the next 5 years. Over/under set at 0.5
Well, as much as it pains me to say it Texass and Oklahoma are heavy hitters. The others are not.
IF NU were to run the gauntlet and win the B1G championship game it would not be “meaningless”. Conference titles still matter. You pull the 4 best programs out of the PAC 12 and then win that conference? That’s says a bunch.
NCAA football is definitely a bubble that is going to pop. There are plenty of warning signs with in-game attendance plummeting, and the confusion around streaming, cable availability, and mounting costs for consumers. If you have to spend 19.99 a month for espn, big 10, fox, youtube, hulu, netflix, etc...people are going to start to cut corners. The lack of historical rivalries will also have an effect on building new fans as will the lack of parity as the conferences realign and become disrupted. Adjusting to a new conference generally weakens teams until their recruiting adjusts to the new environment. This means teams like Georgia, Clemson, OSU, Michigan are going to have even less competition and power is going to continue to be concentrated in these few teams. Long term that means the sport is more and more likely to become regional, with people not caring as much in entire sections of the country, just as fewer kids play high school football due to health concerns. The lack nail in the coffin is the reality that most donations come from graduates from those schools and the Public university route is becoming less attractive which will shrink the small donor pool at least.
Two things could extend college football's gravy train. The advent of NIL means it is possible for large urban areas to build decent teams...so a team like Georgia Tech might be able to become a national entity and this could create more parity. Also, the whininess of America on all sides has made it less attractive for advertisers to support t.v shows, political discourse, and any television that could be viewed as supporting any viewpoint. Sports is still a relatively safe avenue for advertisers and if streaming can become attractive you will see big corp push football and sports hard,. whether we want to see it or not. At the very least college football will still remain an avenue to gamble, and the new generations may not care about teams or history but they will all be addicted to small stakes gambling and sports betting and there is nothing better than American sports for such a thing.
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The only ass kicking last year in the playoffs was Georgia over TCU.
Cannot help but wonder if Texas and OU would have stayed if the Big 12 had invited these schools months ago...regardless, props to the Big 12 for makin it happen when a lot of people tbought they were dead in the water.
For funs sake, I'll set the B1G at 0.5 also. You can only bet the over for one conference over the next 5 years. Which conference do you choose?
Ohio State and Michigan have a better chance of winning a national championship than any of the teams in the big 12. If you add USC the odds of the big 10 winning are significantly higher than the big 12
True - but B1G has only won one in the last 10 years so it’s a toss up. Big12 hasn’t one forever so definitely the under and it’s not changing any time soon. B1G definitely more likely to win than the Big12 especially going forward. You take OU and TX out of Big12 CO was the last champ in 1990.
Bottom line - B1G needs to stop crapping the bed in the playoffs.
Since 1980
The future B12 (2024) has 2 programs that have won a national title (BYU-Colorado) - I can’t fathom either of those ever winning another
BIG - 6 programs
SEC - 7
College Football playoffs:
at least one BIG ten team every year but 2 (2 of 4 reps 3 times)
SEC every year represented (2 reps - 5 times)
Future B12 has been absent every year but 2 (zero double reps)
The future B12 (2024) has 2 programs that have won a national title (BYU-Colorado) - I can’t fathom either of those ever winning another
BIG - 6 programs
SEC - 7
College Football playoffs:
at least one BIG ten team every year but 2 (2 of 4 reps 3 times)
SEC every year represented (2 reps - 5 times)
Future B12 has been absent every year but 2 (zero double reps)
But the B1G is so much better! Why the same O/U? Why not 1.5??
Jk I know why. Even True Believers don’t truly believe.
This is an admission the B1G is, at best, equal to the big12 in your eyes
Hilarious
Bark >>> Bite for B1G fans
Cowardice apparently spills over from the schools to the fans
Did you watch USC in the Pac 12 title game or against Tulane? They don't have the lines or the defense to win a national championship let alone a Big 10 championship. Silly argument
Your refusal to answer the question is your admission that you don't really believe in the Big 12. Just write up another Mickey-like "I was wrong" post so we can just move on. 98% of America would pick the B1G in this scenario, and you are one of them because it's the only logical choice and you're not an idiot. Pride is a tough thing to swallow sometimes, I get it.
He is taking into consideration the future not just this year or last year.. USC didn’t want to be in Dallas anyway..
And TCU and BYU have the only other ones in CFB history and the BYU one doesn't really count.
Sounds like a lot of speculation and excuses to me. There's no way to know how well USC or any of the other Pac 12 teams will do in the Big 10.
Did you watch TCU in the game against Georgia......... see how that works. motivation, match ups. there are so many factors.
I'm kinda thinking both the b1g and big 12, had they had a crystal ball, would not have added some schools. No way big12 takes Cincinnati and ucf if they would have known they would get the pac12 leftovers that they did. Maryland and Rutgers as well. I really wonder how many viewers vs TV sets are really gained in the DC area and NY
Again, adding NYC and Baltimore/ DC was about cable tv subscribers and the ability to add BTN to the standard cable package. It was never about viewership, it didn't matter if people watched BTN or even cared or knew it was on their cable package. The $.15 per subscriber per month went right to the Big Ten.
The big 12 will win more major sports titles in the next 5 years than the B1G.
The big 12 will also have a better record vs the B1G in the next 5 years head to head in football because it will be a more competitive football league (will take a bet for any amount of money on this, name your price)
The SEC/ACC will likely win all 5 of the next football titles
That’s my bet, and obviously yours, too.
Neither of us are willing to bet against an SEC clean sweep, which is what this really boils down to.
You’re too cowardly to ever post an “I was wrong” thread, so I won’t hold my breath in 5 years when I’m proven right
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big 12 intriguing to me with no preconceived powerhouses. will be alot of fun matchups and upsets. nil money will even up the talent with some teams.
Yes you are absolutely correct. No argument from me. I'm just curious, in this day and age of electronic intrusion, THEY surely know who's watching vs subscribing. Dish sure sends me a bunch of crap channels I NEVER watch but they sure know what channels I watch at what time of day.
They used to have the Nielsen ratings where they paid families to log their TV viewing. Now my dang phone knows what we've been talking about in the kitchen
