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Did the Big12 just win conference realignment? They’re gaining teams where travel isn’t crazy. Get rid if WV and you’ve got a conference that makes sense.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the TV money gravy train will continue much longer. There’s too much content dilution.
 
The Big 12...if all they get all the teams they are rumored to be adding.....will be second only to the SEC in terms of mens sports. Yes they're missing an Ohio State or Bama...but still....some great basketball and baseball talent and one of their football teams or two will be in the playoff every year when it expands. People crapping on the Big 12 don't know what they're talking about IMO.
 
This is my concern with the Big Ten growth. You've added 4 teams from the west coast, they are isolated by themselves. There is Nebraska, an isolated island in the middle, the original conference members compacted together, then the additions of the east by themselves.

Will the conference try to make sense of the travel with scheduling? Of course not, they want to show off their new play toys. There are now 18 teams and it is impossible to have a schedule that makes sense and a champion that will never play all the teams. They are saying that the top two teams play each other, but how will that be equitable when the top two teams will not play the same schedule? They don't want divisions because of the lack of talent divided among 18 teams and geography will no longer make sense.

How many pods or divisions will there be to have these teams try to play each at least once every 5 years? To make it make sense you need to add another 2 teams, but what two teams will it be? Standford is on the outside looking along with Cal., but that will make 6 teams on the left coast, not the necessary five to make it divisible by 4 for sanity purposes... ND will not make the jump because they do not need a conference. Even if you find two more, the original conference members will be broken up and rarely play each other, which will play havoc on their ritual trophy games. If there is not one more west coast team added, which ugly redheaded stepchild gets thrown into the west coast division? Probably the one with the N on their helmet, not the M.

The baseball teams do not play all the teams now with 14 members, it will only get worse with 18. Did anyone find it oddd that LSU and Florida were facing each other for the first time this year in the CWS, yet they were the highest-ranked teams in the $EC? Does this seem like the $EC diluted their schedules to keep them higher in the rankings? Will this become the norm in the super conferences, let the weak be fed on by the strong so the strong has a higher win percentage? Could be the new deniable norm for the winning teams by the conference schedulers.

How soon will the money dry up and the scheduling becomes a priority for the schools with smaller budgets? Cast out the smaller-budget teams and make it a high-budget semi-pro league disguised as college football. It is already happening with NIL and the portal, it will be all in the light of day now.

How soon will the B1G, $EC, and Big XII start casting out the weak members because it is impossible to play a schedule in any sport that makes sense in crowning a champion? No two teams play the same schedule and the opponents are different. What do you do if the top 4 teams have identical records and only two spots can be filled? Do you punish the team who plays the harder schedule, or look at the team who has the easier schedule and promote them? None of the four had any say-so on their schedule but won the required number of games to earn the spot. If there are four divisions, is there now a 2 step process for the champion? Extra games are a no-no... Two divisions have 9 teams per side and that means zero cross-over games, so in essence, you have two sub conferences in one large conference... HMMMM Who picks those divisions, put 18 teams in a hat and draw out nine teams? Do you do it geographically, no wait, it splits the original teams and the balance of power is off-kilter.

All sanity has been lost, and this is not in the best interest of the student-athlete... The schools are doing it for the reason they teach is the worst to do... GREED
 
Did the Big12 just win conference realignment? They’re gaining teams where travel isn’t crazy. Get rid if WV and you’ve got a conference that makes sense.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the TV money gravy train will continue much longer. There’s too much content dilution.
You’d have to get rid of UCF too, Florida is way outside the B12 footprint
 
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Yes.

Looks like a great league focused first and foremost on competing for national titles in all 3 major men’s sports.

B1G will always have volleyball to keep the cucks happy
 
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Did the Big12 just win conference realignment? They’re gaining teams where travel isn’t crazy. Get rid if WV and you’ve got a conference that makes sense.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the TV money gravy train will continue much longer. There’s too much content dilution.
Probably put ucf in the WV category. Does give them footprint in Florida and now AZ
 
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Yes.

Looks like a great league focused first and foremost on competing for national titles in all 3 major men’s sports.

B1G will always have volleyball to keep the cucks happy
Which Big 12 teams are set up to consistently compete for football titles again? You have made it peefectly clear that it is championship or bust with the B1G. How many years until the Big 12 wins their next title?
 
This is my concern with the Big Ten growth. You've added 4 teams from the west coast, they are isolated by themselves. There is Nebraska, an isolated island in the middle, the original conference members compacted together, then the additions of the east by themselves.

Will the conference try to make sense of the travel with scheduling? Of course not, they want to show off their new play toys. There are now 18 teams and it is impossible to have a schedule that makes sense and a champion that will never play all the teams. They are saying that the top two teams play each other, but how will that be equitable when the top two teams will not play the same schedule? They don't want divisions because of the lack of talent divided among 18 teams and geography will no longer make sense.

How many pods or divisions will there be to have these teams try to play each at least once every 5 years? To make it make sense you need to add another 2 teams, but what two teams will it be? Standford is on the outside looking along with Cal., but that will make 6 teams on the left coast, not the necessary five to make it divisible by 4 for sanity purposes... ND will not make the jump because they do not need a conference. Even if you find two more, the original conference members will be broken up and rarely play each other, which will play havoc on their ritual trophy games. If there is not one more west coast team added, which ugly redheaded stepchild gets thrown into the west coast division? Probably the one with the N on their helmet, not the M.

The baseball teams do not play all the teams now with 14 members, it will only get worse with 18. Did anyone find it oddd that LSU and Florida were facing each other for the first time this year in the CWS, yet they were the highest-ranked teams in the $EC? Does this seem like the $EC diluted their schedules to keep them higher in the rankings? Will this become the norm in the super conferences, let the weak be fed on by the strong so the strong has a higher win percentage? Could be the new deniable norm for the winning teams by the conference schedulers.

How soon will the money dry up and the scheduling becomes a priority for the schools with smaller budgets? Cast out the smaller-budget teams and make it a high-budget semi-pro league disguised as college football. It is already happening with NIL and the portal, it will be all in the light of day now.

How soon will the B1G, $EC, and Big XII start casting out the weak members because it is impossible to play a schedule in any sport that makes sense in crowning a champion? No two teams play the same schedule and the opponents are different. What do you do if the top 4 teams have identical records and only two spots can be filled? Do you punish the team who plays the harder schedule, or look at the team who has the easier schedule and promote them? None of the four had any say-so on their schedule but won the required number of games to earn the spot. If there are four divisions, is there now a 2 step process for the champion? Extra games are a no-no... Two divisions have 9 teams per side and that means zero cross-over games, so in essence, you have two sub conferences in one large conference... HMMMM Who picks those divisions, put 18 teams in a hat and draw out nine teams? Do you do it geographically, no wait, it splits the original teams and the balance of power is off-kilter.

All sanity has been lost, and this is not in the best interest of the student-athlete... The schools are doing it for the reason they teach is the worst to do... GREED
I can see several sports being dropped because of ridiculous travel for the small money losing sports… like most of them. Most athletic departments don’t make much money overall, if they make any profit. I don’t see how this will last, except the football.
 
I can see several sports being dropped because of ridiculous travel for the small money losing sports… like most of them. Most athletic departments don’t make much money overall, if they make any profit. I don’t see how this will last, except the football.
For most of these sports you don’t need a regular season conference schedule.
You schedule what works best regionally and show up for the conf meet/tourney to determine the conf champion.
Seeding will be a little less precise but baseball, volleyball, soccer don’t need to decide regular champions
 
Which Big 12 teams are set up to consistently compete for football titles again? You have made it peefectly clear that it is championship or bust with the B1G. How many years until the Big 12 wins their next title?
TCU was a game away last year after kicking the absolute sh*t out of the B1G champ
 
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Did the Big12 just win conference realignment? They’re gaining teams where travel isn’t crazy. Get rid if WV and you’ve got a conference that makes sense.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the TV money gravy train will continue much longer. There’s too much content dilution.
I think they should drop WV and CF open their doors to Stanford and Cal if they can get them. I don't know how hard it is to kick a school out of a conference because we haven't seen it. I also wonder if a revitalized Big 12 might lure Missouri or Arkansas to leave the SEC.
 
It would make me very happy if we left this immoral, pedophile loving, left wing lunacy of a conference and went back to playing our regional rivals. We are not a fit in the big 10 and it seems we don’t get a fair shake. It’s just gonna get worse with these additions.
Well technically many years ago Iowa and Minnesota were regional rivals. The bottom line is the bottom line. It’s a money grab. ☹️
 
TCU was a game away last year after kicking the absolute sh*t out of the B1G champ
You didn't answer my questions, but I'm not surprised. Unless you are you saying TCU is a team you identify as being set up for recurring title shots. I'm interested in your rationale, which better be more than "last year...".

Any others in the Big 12 you see as being set up for titles? You praise the Big 12 so much, surely you've got more than TCU's "one hit wonder" season last year.
 
You didn't answer my questions, but I'm not surprised. Unless you are you saying TCU is a team you identify as being set up for recurring title shots. I'm interested in your rationale, which better be more than "last year...".

Any others in the Big 12 you see as being set up for titles? You praise the Big 12 so much, surely you've got more than TCU's "one hit wonder" season last year.
Tcu is well set up to compete annually. Great coach in a top 5 metro that produces gobs of talent.
 
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Did the Big12 just win conference realignment? They’re gaining teams where travel isn’t crazy. Get rid if WV and you’ve got a conference that makes sense.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think the TV money gravy train will continue much longer. There’s too much content dilution.
Morgantown is a whopping 4 hrs east of Cincinnati .why would Cincinnati make sense and not WVU.
 
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Tcu is well set up to compete annually. Great coach in a top 5 metro that produces gobs of talent.
That has been true for 23 years. Mr. Championship or bust likes TCU going forward for title runs? Even you don't really believe that.

Noticed you also didn't back one other team even though you claimed the conference was set up for title runs. Just stop digging.
 
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This is my concern with the Big Ten growth. You've added 4 teams from the west coast, they are isolated by themselves. There is Nebraska, an isolated island in the middle, the original conference members compacted together, then the additions of the east by themselves.

Will the conference try to make sense of the travel with scheduling? Of course not, they want to show off their new play toys. There are now 18 teams and it is impossible to have a schedule that makes sense and a champion that will never play all the teams. They are saying that the top two teams play each other, but how will that be equitable when the top two teams will not play the same schedule? They don't want divisions because of the lack of talent divided among 18 teams and geography will no longer make sense.

How many pods or divisions will there be to have these teams try to play each at least once every 5 years? To make it make sense you need to add another 2 teams, but what two teams will it be? Standford is on the outside looking along with Cal., but that will make 6 teams on the left coast, not the necessary five to make it divisible by 4 for sanity purposes... ND will not make the jump because they do not need a conference. Even if you find two more, the original conference members will be broken up and rarely play each other, which will play havoc on their ritual trophy games. If there is not one more west coast team added, which ugly redheaded stepchild gets thrown into the west coast division? Probably the one with the N on their helmet, not the M.

The baseball teams do not play all the teams now with 14 members, it will only get worse with 18. Did anyone find it oddd that LSU and Florida were facing each other for the first time this year in the CWS, yet they were the highest-ranked teams in the $EC? Does this seem like the $EC diluted their schedules to keep them higher in the rankings? Will this become the norm in the super conferences, let the weak be fed on by the strong so the strong has a higher win percentage? Could be the new deniable norm for the winning teams by the conference schedulers.

How soon will the money dry up and the scheduling becomes a priority for the schools with smaller budgets? Cast out the smaller-budget teams and make it a high-budget semi-pro league disguised as college football. It is already happening with NIL and the portal, it will be all in the light of day now.

How soon will the B1G, $EC, and Big XII start casting out the weak members because it is impossible to play a schedule in any sport that makes sense in crowning a champion? No two teams play the same schedule and the opponents are different. What do you do if the top 4 teams have identical records and only two spots can be filled? Do you punish the team who plays the harder schedule, or look at the team who has the easier schedule and promote them? None of the four had any say-so on their schedule but won the required number of games to earn the spot. If there are four divisions, is there now a 2 step process for the champion? Extra games are a no-no... Two divisions have 9 teams per side and that means zero cross-over games, so in essence, you have two sub conferences in one large conference... HMMMM Who picks those divisions, put 18 teams in a hat and draw out nine teams? Do you do it geographically, no wait, it splits the original teams and the balance of power is off-kilter.

All sanity has been lost, and this is not in the best interest of the student-athlete... The schools are doing it for the reason they teach is the worst to do... GREED
First off there are no more student athletes. These are basically semi pros in the NIL era.

Secondly, we played ina league for a century where it was two elite titans and the little sisters of the poor.

Sure there were times in the 80s and 90s when Colorado and KSU made runs and had some damn good teams (corby jones Mizzou was also fun) but the main reason NU and OU win 40+ conference titles each was the rest of the league blew chunks the majority of the time.
 
And Cinci was in the CFP the year before. Utah won the Pac the last 2 years...seems like they're better lately than what the B1G added from the Pac.

When you are forming a conference, taking a what have you done lately approach is IMO the wrong one.

Sure you could add Utah to the big ten, but in the long run owing UDub is probably far more important Utah.

Off the field, UW is a much bigger brand, has a large following and is generally useful whether this current alignment is going to be the last one for awhile or we have negotiate into some yet to be determined NFL lite entity.
 
as far as travel,,,we have it the best..rhule talked about it today..
we just have 2 1/2 hour flights, max....we are the center of the B1G now.
rhule said rutgers has it the worse, flying to ucla..
something bout east to west travel is worse then west to east
 
Big 12 wouldn’t take Nebraska back. Osborne burnt that bridge on the way out.

unrefined, but relevant...

I've been fairly outspoken in the past about how much I hated the move to the big ten. I've lost interest more and more each season since the move. It's just hard to "watch" us lose to these shit teams year after year. Unbearable really, I haven't watched an entire game yet this season because we have become what I hate, a big ten school and a shitty one at that.

Before anyone says find a new school to root for, I already have, Texas Tech. I just can't watch big ten sports, and I'd rather root for a middle of the pack Big XII school than watch nebraska. Yes, Tech lost today, but at least the games are watchable.

Some thought getting out from under Texas was a good thing, but now we are under osu, mich, and pedo u. I wish TO wasn't so vindictive and would have not pushed us into the big ten. It really sucks, but I believe he killed our program.
 
it would make no sence leaving the B1G...why do I want to make 31 million compared to 100 million?

that 69 million, means folks don't have to donate 69 million to the school, and can throw it into nil...

I'll take the ny tv market over, ames
the la market over lawrance
and the chicago market over stillwater

the 7 dwarfs and the best crooks of the swc, stabed us in the back way more then the B1G.
and the Lincoln front office shot it's self in the foot with the pass happy retired guy, and the drunk, for HC

in conclusion,
we have a real coach now who can string 2 words together and build a program, and we got money flowing in...
so it's just a matter time now, GBR!
 
it would make no sence leaving the B1G...why do I want to make 31 million compared to 100 million?

that 69 million, means folks don't have to donate 69 million to the school, and can throw it into nil...

I'll take the ny tv market over, ames
the la market over lawrance
and the chicago market over stillwater

the 7 dwarfs and the best crooks of the swc, stabed us in the back way more then the B1G.
and the Lincoln front office shot it's self in the foot with the pass happy retired guy, and the drunk, for HC

in conclusion,
we have a real coach now who can string 2 words together and build a program, and we got money flowing in...
so it's just a matter time now, GBR!

Using NY/LA/Chicago TV markets vs. Ames/Lawrence/Stillwater is pretty lame. Kind of ignoring DFW, Houston, Phoenix, Tampa, Denver TV markets there.
 
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First off there are no more student athletes. These are basically semi pros in the NIL era.

Secondly, we played ina league for a century where it was two elite titans and the little sisters of the poor.

Sure there were times in the 80s and 90s when Colorado and KSU made runs and had some damn good teams (corby jones Mizzou was also fun) but the main reason NU and OU win 40+ conference titles each was the rest of the league blew chunks the majority of the time.
Every conference has the big 2 little... nothing new. But now that there will be 18-20 teams per conference, conference titles are meaningless.
 
#1, #2, #3 and houston would be #4

Yeah, and nobody in Houston really gives a crap about that school. The vast majority of give a shit as far as eyeballs in Houston goes to UT and aTm. Which is really the case with a lot of this stuff.

Okay, the B1G has the top 3. However, the vast majority of the people in those markets couldn't care less about those teams they got. LA doesn't care about college football in general. Chicago probably cares most about ND if anything and the B1G doesn't have them. And NY? Rutgers? Fugget about it.

But, yeah it's the sum of the parts, etc. I get it. Doesn't mean I have to like it.
 
Every conference has the big 2 little... nothing new. But now that there will be 18-20 teams per conference, conference titles are meaningless.

How you figure this? I'd think with all the power in these power conferences, winning one would mean even more. You will now have 7 of the 8 blue bloods split between 2 conferences.
 
The only way I get any excitement out of this is if Nebraska somehow gets grouped with the 4 west coast teams. I would gladly trade annual games with the old BIG west gargage to play SC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington every year. Throw in a rotation of Penn St, Michigan, and Ohio St and I can live with that schedule every year. That would be some interesting games.
 
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