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as we watch this unfold, it seems nut-crunching time is sooner rather than later. the two megas are going to tell the leftovers what they get or the b10 and sec will breakaway to form their own games. it's all about football. but one has to wonder what comes of hoops and the other sports along the way under this plan; will notre dame, the acc, and b12 cave or fight?
 
That's exactly what is unfolding and that train is picking up speed.

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i'm going to watch what the irish do now. they have long seen themselves and acted above the fray. sort of the moral high ground for others - like the church itself used to be.

how the irish move now, or don't, may have a material effect on the outcome here. their easy road would be to join the b10. but i doubt they see that as the ethical choice.
 
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They traditionally play a lot of b1g and former pac teams that are now b1g. Acc is dying on the vine with the top tier schools wanting out. Why wouldn't they see the handwriting on the wall and join the b1g? After Clemson, Florida State and Miami go to $ec what's left?

Big 12 would likely try to merge with what's left from the acc
 
They traditionally play a lot of b1g and former pac teams that are now b1g. Acc is dying on the vine with the top tier schools wanting out. Why wouldn't they see the handwriting on the wall and join the b1g? After Clemson, Florida State and Miami go to $ec what's left?

Big 12 would likely try to merge with what's left from the acc
well, north carolina, uva, v'tech, nc state, and some others may think they are still worthy. i don't know.

but to the irish question, this is not fr. theodore hesburgh or edward malloy at the helm today. so i don't know what's important anymore? academics, independence, and playing navy were always cherished.
 
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as we watch this unfold, it seems nut-crunching time is sooner rather than later. the two megas are going to tell the leftovers what they get or the b10 and sec will breakaway to form their own games. it's all about money.
FIFY

All seems very short-sighted and remove-the-nose-despite-the-face-ish

Of course, so do those who agree with and/or readily accept this direction simply due to their own perceived inclusion

Such is life, I suppose. There are those with vision and there are the loudly following rest.
 
well, north carolina, uva, v'tech, pitt, and some others may think they are still worthy. i don't know.

but to the irish question, this is not father theodore hesburgh or malloy at the helm today. so i don't know what's important anymore? academics, independence and playing navy was always cherished.
They can continue to play navy and Stanford.

I think b1g and $ec heading to 20 teams. ND and 1 more to b1g. 4 more to the $ec...Clemson, Florida State for sure imo. Do they want a 3rd school from Florida in Miami? I could see Miami or fsu possibly to b1g to get Florida footprint. If not then probably Virginia geographically. NC probably to $ec which then would leave 1 more
 
They can continue to play navy and Stanford.

I think b1g and $ec heading to 20 teams. ND and 1 more to b1g. 4 more to the $ec...Clemson, Florida State for sure imo. Do they want a 3rd school from Florida in Miami? I could see Miami or fsu possibly to b1g to get Florida footprint. If not then probably Virginia geographically. NC probably to $ec which then would leave 1 more
as we discussed earlier, seems to me that notre dame is at the fulcrum now.

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money or media, kk?
Money

Media maintains its innocent fluidity while that which bends the knee to its riches becomes more irreparably rigid

Rigid things eventually snap under pressure. My, what a spectacle to broadcast and behold and eventually remake.
 
They traditionally play a lot of b1g and former pac teams that are now b1g. Acc is dying on the vine with the top tier schools wanting out. Why wouldn't they see the handwriting on the wall and join the b1g? After Clemson, Florida State and Miami go to $ec what's left?

Big 12 would likely try to merge with what's left from the acc
The Big 12 won't have to merge. They will wait a pick the two or four of the best that are left. Could be NC state, Virginia Tech, Miami. Who cares. Like Saban said earlier this week, this is no longer College Football. The final crunch will be when they decide - and they will - that the athletic corporations can pay the players directly, and players no longer must be students. Minor league football.
Could a player stay 8 or 9 years at what will be, independent athletic corporations? Could an NFL player, who is not good enough to see the field, drop down to the Minor Leagues (the Big 10) and play for the Cornhuskers? We know what the courts will decide.
This whole crappy money grab is a runaway train, a bad idea that will adhere to the Law of Unintended Consequences.
 
Obviously they have not full considered the impact of Avery Johnson and Klieman being a lifer at the purple kitties. I would assume this knowledge will help balance the scales for the Big12
your attempt at sarcasm may turn into irony. i'm not sure you realize that.

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your attempt at sarcasm may turn into irony. i'm not sure you realize that.

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I was just repeating your response. It doesn’t bother me if the kitties get in with the big conferences. My team is already in and it doesn’t impact us one way or the other.

Additionally, the only way for it to be truly ironic would be for the Huskers to get booted from one of the big 2 conferences and kitties to be brought in.

If you are saying it would be ironic if the kitties made the playoffs in 2024. It doesn't really matter with regard to the larger discussion of where college football is heading.
 
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your attempt at sarcasm may turn into irony. i'm not sure you realize that.

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If the B1G-SEC thing progresses, there is not going to be any irony. The Big 12 will be on the outside looking in. Not sure how things put them on a level playing field…
 
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If the B1G-SEC thing progresses, there is not going to be any irony. The Big 12 will be on the outside looking in. Not sure how things put them on a level playing field…
I don't know if that's accurate. I could see them taking one or more of the higher-end Big 12 schools: Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Kansas, Utah, BYU, Oklahoma State and TCU. I don't think they would touch any of the other schools with a 10-foot pole though.
 
I was just repeating your response. It doesn’t bother me if the kitties get in with the big conferences. My team is already in and it doesn’t impact us one way or the other.

Additionally, the only way for it to be truly ironic would be for the Huskers to get booted from one of the big 2 conferences and kitties to be brought in.

If you are saying it would be ironic if the kitties made the playoffs in 2024. It doesn't really matter with regard to the larger discussion of where college football is heading.
Kstank will not be at the table. It's G8 or bust for them!
 
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If the B1G-SEC thing progresses, there is not going to be any irony. The Big 12 will be on the outside looking in. Not sure how things put them on a level playing field…
As an aside, it's actually crazy to think about that. At one time, The Big 12 was clearly the second best conference in college football. It was them and the SEC.

Now they are just one of the other conferences just trying to survive. I guess it's not that crazy when I really think about it since media rights deals is the main driver of all of this. And the Big 12 just never had big enough TV markets or national brands. Especially now that Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas are gone.
 
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As an aside, it's actually crazy to think about that. At one time, The Big 12 was clearly the second best conference in college football. It was them and the SEC.

Now they are just one of the other conferences just trying to survive. I guess it's not that crazy when I really think about it since media rights deals is the main driver of all of this. And the Big 12 just never had big enough TV markets or national brands. Especially now that Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas are gone.
it will be interesting to watch unfold on so many levels. i wonder if it gets a platform in congress or the courts at some point soon?
 
As an aside, it's actually crazy to think about that. At one time, The Big 12 was clearly the second best conference in college football. It was them and the SEC.

Now they are just one of the other conferences just trying to survive. I guess it's not that crazy when I really think about it since media rights deals is the main driver of all of this. And the Big 12 just never had big enough TV markets or national brands. Especially now that Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas are gone.
Yeah hasn't been the same since June 2010 and has only gotten weaker and weirder. I'll give them credit for finding replacents but hard to recover from losing 4 of the top tier programs and 2 middle of the road programs
 
it will be interesting to watch unfold on so many levels. i wonder if it gets a platform in congress or the courts at some point soon?
Courts possibility but but I doubt it. Congress? Congress? I just can't see anything sensible there. Can't do anything productive on important things
 
Courts possibility but but I doubt it. Congress? Congress? I just can't see anything sensible there. Can't do anything productive on important things
there will be some serious howling from senators representing the left-outs. this football thingy is a multi-billion dollar industry after all.
 
Maybe this isn't all about football. Who's playing wbb conference championship games on Monday....not the sec or b1g
 
Maybe this isn't all about football. Who's playing wbb conference championship games on Monday....not the sec or b1g
both texas and oklahoma playing in the semis, not championship. so i'm not sure what that says. except it is odd programming, very odd.
 
it will be interesting to watch unfold on so many levels. i wonder if it gets a platform in congress or the courts at some point soon?
Predictable that you would be someone who would want more government intervention.
 
As an aside, it's actually crazy to think about that. At one time, The Big 12 was clearly the second best conference in college football. It was them and the SEC.

Now they are just one of the other conferences just trying to survive. I guess it's not that crazy when I really think about it since media rights deals is the main driver of all of this. And the Big 12 just never had big enough TV markets or national brands. Especially now that Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas are gone.
Supposedly the additions of BYU, Cincinnati, Bo Diddley Tech, and Slippery Rock State are supposed to make up for losing 3 blue bloods.
 
championship game is primetime tonight on espn2. so what you were getting at doesn't hold water. i see caitlin's was the most watched in cbs history. nice to be part of her fame.
It was all those Huskers watching 👀 😁

Maybe I'm in the minority but would rather have ccg on Sunday rather than Tuesday night. I've got a rural fire meeting tonight so won't/can't watch. Plus 2 1/2 days more rest
 
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