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Big 10 and NCAA such a sham

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So official replay uses the TV angles we get and for whatever stupid reason we can never get a shot right down the first down line. It's always behind or in front of the line at an angle so the officials can use their carefully worded rules to choose what they want to do. Not only that but the TV guys help them out and put the yellow line at the wrong place.

Hate Michigan and OSU equally but Michigan got jobbed repeatedly today. Big 10 has some of the worst officiating anywhere.

edited post to reflect the line to gain instead of LOS
 
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So official replay uses the TV angles we get and for whatever stupid reason we can never get a shot right down the line of scrimmage. It's always behind or in front of the line at an angle so the officials can use their carefully worded rules to choose what they want to do. Not only that but the TV guys help them out and put the yellow line at the wrong place.

Hate Michigan and OSU equally but Michigan got jobbed repeatedly today. Big 10 has some of the worst officiating anywhere.

LOL
 
I was out walking the dogs listening to Michigans broadcast. I was curious what the consensus here is. Still have not seen a replay
 
no way to tell from the angle we were given. I'd say it was pretty much 50/50.
 
I was out walking the dogs listening to Michigans broadcast. I was curious what the consensus here is. Still have not seen a replay

What was the Michigan broadcast saying? It was plain as day who the Big 10 wanted to win. Hopefully Michigan can get in the playoff along with the Big 10 champion as it's pretty apparent we are the dominant conference in the country now, but I do not like what I have seen officiating-wise in the past month. Reminds me of the Big XII quite a bit.

The yellow TV line isn't available to anyone that matters reviewing the play.

Plus, all the ball had to do was touch the 15 yards line. Which it did.

I know that, it's simply a tool TV uses to push the narrative.
 
Certainly very close, I thought the ball hit 86 in the back before he was moved backwards, looked like 86 was right on the 15 yd line, if could have been either way and it will be discussed for next 50 yrs.
 
I thought first down. Now the missed PI on Michigan's 3rd down play in double OT a different story.
Agree with this - I thought Barrett got the first down by the slimmest of margins. If Michigan has a gripe, it was the decision to eat the flag on the previous series. Kind of hard to make a catch when the DB has a firm grip on your right arm.
 
I mean why the ball is still marked by humans at this point seems ridiculous. I didn't think he got it but there wasn't enough evidence to overturn. Whatever they called was gonna stand.
 
What was the Michigan broadcast saying? It was plain as day who the Big 10 wanted to win. Hopefully Michigan can get in the playoff along with the Big 10 champion as it's pretty apparent we are the dominant conference in the country now, but I do not like what I have seen officiating-wise in the past month. Reminds me of the Big XII quite a bit.
They were certain that he was short, but even before the announcement wondered jf they would have the stones to overturn the call in Columbus. Dierdorf was almost speechless. They didn't complain, just stated it was hard to see it happen to the team.


I know that, it's simply a tool TV uses to push the narrative.
 
I mean why the ball is still marked by humans at this point seems ridiculous. I didn't think he got it but there wasn't enough evidence to overturn. Whatever they called was gonna stand.

I have a digital gadget 1/25 the size of a football with computing power equal to the most powerful computer in the world the last time Iowa could claim a "national championship" and instead of putting a GPS device inside the football and in the yard markers they would rather use 60 year old men to handle the details. WELL-VETTED 60 year old men I'm sure. Completely neutral, carefully selected men.
 
We shouldn't even be having the argument. Why there are not 2 cameras on each sideline looking right down the first down/endzone boundaries is just asinine.

I agree 100%. The worst are the endzone calls. How they expect to review a close play at the endzone, off-center blows my mind.
 
We shouldn't even be having the argument. Why there are not 2 cameras on each sideline looking right down the first down/endzone boundaries is just asinine.

Multiple two cameras on each sideline times every game. cheap right?

I remember several years ago they experimented with a chip in the football and no chains. Takes the human aspect out of that part of it. you still have the question of being down.
 
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Multiple two cameras on each sideline times every game. cheap right?

I remember several years ago they experimented with a chip in the football and no chains. Takes the huma aspect out of that part of it. you still have the question of being down.

Are you insinuating that 2 cameras are going to break the bank? How about taking the camera that is currently NOT down the middle of the line and moving it there? We are not solving a complex problem.

The human aspect needs to be removed as far as possible from the game. From the polls to the way the game is played.
 
Multiple two cameras on each sideline times every game. cheap right?

I remember several years ago they experimented with a chip in the football and no chains. Takes the huma aspect out of that part of it. you still have the question of being down.

Speaking of wasting $, is there really a purpose of "pylon cam"?
 
He may not have got the 15, but there was not enough on replay to overturn the call. I think they were right to let the call stand.
 
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Speaking of wasting $, is there really a purpose of "pylon cam"?
Don't you hate on the pylon cam! What did pylon cam ever do to you?!!!
Poor pylon cam never seems to catch a break
 
At best it was a 50/50 call that was close enough to have gone either way. I cant say that it was clearly a first down nor was it clearly short of the first. The call that was made on the field couldn't really be overturned because there was no clear evidence that it was short. It was just one of those calls that was going to piss one side or the other off regardless of which way it went.
 
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The yellow TV line isn't available to anyone that matters reviewing the play.

Plus, all the ball had to do was touch the 15 yards line. Which it did.
no it didnt. his hand did but the ball was in other hand
 
Just saw the replay on TV. And there is nothing you could argue to overturn it had it been called either way. Play stands as called. 4.6.3. Has deemed it so, that is pretty much all anyone needed to be sure.
 
It is 2016, you'd think they can put a GPS tracker in the ball to map its location at all times.
 
What was the Michigan broadcast saying? It was plain as day who the Big 10 wanted to win. Hopefully Michigan can get in the playoff along with the Big 10 champion as it's pretty apparent we are the dominant conference in the country now, but I do not like what I have seen officiating-wise in the past month. Reminds me of the Big XII quite a bit.
How does Michigan get into the playoff? There is absolutely no chance of this. 1 loss Ohio State is in and the 2 loss Conference Champion is in. Michigan will be Rose Bowl bound, but no chance for the playoffs.
 
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