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Looking like the kicking shit show will return next year. Have to admit I am for the first time beginning to question Frost.
yep.. seems to be 130 or so of those already out there playing D1 footballNot necessarily. Let’s see what Contreraz can do. All we need is one guy who can put it in the end zone and is a good kicker.
Where’s Lightbourne when we need him?yep.. seems to be 130 or so of those already out there playing D1 football
what's one more?
I hope Chase is working on his kiss-blowing skills. They could come in handy when he comes back to Iowa in November.Don’t get the sky is falling thing. Contreraz hit 83% of his FGs with a long of 47 yds and was was 44/46 on XPs. JUCO All Am. I don’t know the details of why Pickering is departing, but stat wise, Contreraz is an even trade.
Anyone that can get injured on a golf course has no business playing football. For me, this conjures the Jackass videos of them jumping golf carts. But good luck to him.Don't know all the details. Just saw earlier that he was injured fooling around on a golf course. Frost not happy.
Interesting
I'm missing something I guess. I thought Pickering was a sophomorebecause he can graduate in May and then transfer out and play right away wherever he wants to.
or I guess he could stay and catch some passes from Adrian Martinez and maybe win 7 games and get to a bowl.. and go to pro day and try to explain why his production was so poor the last few years under this qb.
The question was asked about Spielman in this thread. I know, doesn’t fit the title of this thread, but nikki’s response was regarding JD.I'm missing something I guess. I thought Pickering was a sophomore
That sure would've been impressive if he had graduated in only two and a half years though. I'm sure I could have graduated in much less time if I didn't have to spend half my time walking to and from class back in the olden times.The question was asked about Spielman in this thread. I know, doesn’t fit the title of this thread, but nikki’s response was regarding JD.
Thanks for straighten me outThe question was asked about Spielman in this thread. I know, doesn’t fit the title of this thread, but nikki’s response was regarding JD.
As I pointed out above, what is different about this situation than when we graduate a starting kicker and have to start someone new with no experience the next year? Heck, we faced that situation just two years ago when Drew Brown had graduated. We had no kickers with any experience, and Barret Pickering came in and did fine. Just TWO YEARS AGO we faced the EXACT SAME SITUATION, and some people are treating this like it's some rare, horrible thing, Use your head and think about that before you spout off ridiculous nonsense like this.Looking like the kicking shit show will return next year. Have to admit I am for the first time beginning to question Frost.
We're bringing in multiple walk on kickers and punters who all look like they could compete for the job. The one walk on had I think a 75%+ touchback rate on kick offs and also punts. I think Waldoch sees the handwriting on the wall and football takes a TON of time.Starting to wonder if Contreraz doesn’t already have this thing locked down. If Waldoch thought he had a chance at being the place kicker for a potential T25 team, I bet he’d still be on the roster.
Has been speculation for a while now. Too bad, another one bites the dust after an injury. Sadly this injury was off the field which did not please the coach.
I'm failing to see how any of the kicking stuff would make you "question Frost"; almost none of the situation can be put on him.Looking like the kicking shit show will return next year. Have to admit I am for the first time beginning to question Frost.
Crawford had an impressive showing at the 2019 Kohl’s National Scholarship Camp. He once again had a very impressive overall camp with all three disciplines. Crawford has the tools to play at the Division 1 level and this fall will be key for him to continue to progress and be ready to compete at the next level. Crawford attended Texas Showcase in the spring of 2019 and showed great athletic improvement since his last camp. He was able to hit Division 1 type kick offs in the charting session. Crawford also made an impressive 12 points during the field goal portion of camp. He has matured athletically since last summer and moved into the 5 star category as a kicker. His charts were some of the best in the country and might have the talent to be a top 15 kicker in the country.
Trying to hit a golf ball ‘Happy Gilmore’ style.How did he injure himself?
Those were the days we didn’t have scholarship limits. We are forced to recruit kids from out of state so those kids come to play and if they don’t, they leave. We did recruit a kicker, the top Juco Contreraz so that alone told me that they weren’t sold on Pickering.
We're bringing in multiple walk on kickers and punters who all look like they could compete for the job. The one walk on had I think a 75%+ touchback rate on kick offs and also punts. I think Waldoch sees the handwriting on the wall and football takes a TON of time.
I'll repost this for folks.Huh? Limits were 105 until 1978 when they went to 95 and then in 1992 they went to the current 85. It's called managing the roster and developing players to be ready. Are you saying Tom didn't recruit kids from out of state as he was "forced" to do?
Who said Contreraz was the "top kicker"? He was 2nd team CCAA and a walk on. I didn't see the world beating down his door to give him scholarships.
isnt that how Jojo got hurt a few years ago as well?So did Pickering get injured playing pickup basketball, per the most prominent rumor? If so that hardly seems like a reckless activity. I remember a lot of Husker football players being gym rats in the winter and hitting the outdoor courts in the summer, and nobody ever gave it a second thought.
Reading these threads, I feel like he must have injured himself kicking puppies, stomping on the American flag or shoving little old ladies down the stairs.
I'll repost this for folks.
Don’t get the sky is falling thing. Contreraz hit 83% of his FGs with a long of 47 yds and was was 44/46 on XPs. JUCO All Am. I don’t know the details of why Pickering is departing, but stat wise, Contreraz is an even trade.
And now for some comparisons
Drew Brown 178/180(!!) on XPs, 78% on FGs.
Maher 102/103(!!) on XPs, 78% on FGs.
Henery 193/194(!!!) on XPs, 89.5% on FGs
I don't think anyone was "beating down the door" to give Maher or Henery scholarships either, but they were GOAT status as kickers at NU. The Contreraz kid probably won't match what the above three guys did. Very, very few college kickers would. Alex was a damn magician kicking the FB while at NU. But given what he did at Iowa Western, I feel pretty good about improvement from last year.
Pickering is apparently staying at NU. So either his injury has affected his kicking prospects for the foreseeable future, or he didn't have the "want" anymore. In either case, he wasn't going to be the solution going forward. Until we see a kid actually kick in a game, things are up in the air. Everyone gets that. Am I supposed to be down in the mouth about a kid like Chase Contreraz, who has actual results at the JUCO level that look promising? Kicking is kicking. It's not like the XP distances get longer in D1, or he has to face P5 levels of wind.When you have losing seasons 4 of the past 5 years, and have gone more than 2 decades without a conference championship, the outlook options tend to range from "drink the koolaid" to "the sky is falling". As mentioned frequently on this board, many are tired of drinking the koolaid the past 5-6 offseasons, so I don't think its surprising people are concerned over the Pickering/kicker situation, even though the kicker position is likely most easily successfully filled by a walk-on. We are a fan base that is long overdue to be surprised in a good-way.
"Look like they could compete for the job" means that they've demonstrated the ability at their previous location to appear that they are good enough to kick in college. You don't know how a kid is going to respond to kicking in front of 90,000 fans and that doesn't matter if you're a Riley scholarship kicker or a Frost walk on. Some of out best kickers and punters over the years have been walk ons. IMO, you bring in multiple likely looking guys who have demonstrated some proficiency and then let them compete for the job.What does that mean "all look like hey could compete for the job?" On paper I assume? Have you watched them kick? How many received scholarship offers? It looks more like a sign of desperation, get a bunch of walk ons and hope someone emerges. If that is a strategy, I am not impressed. And here we go again, being presented with a glaring weakness on the team and we dismiss it with the comments of we will find someone. Anyone wonder whey we win 4 or 5 games a year?
Huh? Limits were 105 until 1978 when they went to 95 and then in 1992 they went to the current 85. It's called managing the roster and developing players to be ready. Are you saying Tom didn't recruit kids from out of state as he was "forced" to do?
Who said Contreraz was the "top kicker"? He was 2nd team CCAA and a walk on. I didn't see the world beating down his door to give him scholarships.
Don't know all the details. Just saw earlier that he was injured fooling around on a golf course. Frost not happy.
Supposedly he had a hip flexor injury. Those can be really bad for a soccer style kicker and could be career ending.I got that impression (Frost was not happy) from one of his early comments on TV. While speaking of Pickering, Frost said something along the lines of 'a kicker has only one job, to be ready for kicking'. The way it was said, I had the impression that the injury was the kicker's fault and Frost wasn't happy.
It's hard to imagine what kind of season/career ending injury you could get on a golf course, unless it's related to a golf cart accident.
Exactly, Somebody who runs down our kicking prospects because they are walk-ons either has a shocking lack of knowledge about our successful walk-on kickers or just wants to complain non-stop. Said person has shown they do complain non-stop and never can find the slightest thing to praise or be positive about, but it also wouldn't surprise me if said person is so stupid as to not know about our successful walk-on kickers too."Look like they could compete for the job" means that they've demonstrated the ability at their previous location to appear that they are good enough to kick in college. You don't know how a kid is going to respond to kicking in front of 90,000 fans and that doesn't matter if you're a Riley scholarship kicker or a Frost walk on. Some of out best kickers and punters over the years have been walk ons. IMO, you bring in multiple likely looking guys who have demonstrated some proficiency and then let them compete for the job.
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"Look like they could compete for the job" means that they've demonstrated the ability at their previous location to appear that they are good enough to kick in college. You don't know how a kid is going to respond to kicking in front of 90,000 fans and that doesn't matter if you're a Riley scholarship kicker or a Frost walk on. Some of out best kickers and punters over the years have been walk ons. IMO, you bring in multiple likely looking guys who have demonstrated some proficiency and then let them compete for the job.
Geez, overblow things much? Show me where I “run down” the prospects. I am well aware of the past walk on kickers and their success. So tell me what has to do with the current situation? We had a handful of walk on kickers last year and that didn’t seem to work or does make me negative? I originally posed two points, IF we knew we were going to be losing a scholarship kicker, did we try to fill that need? The other point was we seem to come up with a hole somewhere each year without having people ready to step in.Exactly, Somebody who runs down our kicking prospects because they are walk-ons either has a shocking lack of knowledge about our successful walk-on kickers or just wants to complain non-stop. Said person has shown they do complain non-stop and never can find the slightest thing to praise or be positive about, but it also wouldn't surprise me if said person is so stupid as to not know about our successful walk-on kickers too.