Post of the year right there. Says what everyone else has been "afraid to". It is time to man up and put the past away.
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An open letter to Trev Alberts, Ronnie Green and the boosters who decided to bring back Frost
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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All good thoughts, but it will never happen. The boosters and fanbase have an inherent need to inbreed
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Not everyone. The few that did were ran out of here by the illiterate super-fans.
That’s fine for a fan but the AD job is a political one. Boosters who are giving millions of dollars and the BOR have to be on board or you’re screwed. You might remember Steve Pederson firing a coach without having everybody on board.
I’d be very disappointed if it’s Gary Patterson would make no sense after retaining SF and the following year hire a guy who was fired himself after having 2 of the last 3 years with a losing seasons at TCU..
Patterson is 62. The only thing I could remotely come up with regards to his hire would be hire him for 3-4 years with MJ as head coach in waiting.
it would be absolutely ridiculous which scares me that this admin is actually considering it
That would be our mike Riley 2.0
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Patterson would be fine here. Would do the job like a pro should. Alas, those that demand inbreeding would be against it from day 1. Such a healthy fanbase we have here
Anyone who wants to put any blame on Coach Osborne for the situation Nebraska football is currently in is not thinking rationally what led the program to be in its current sorry state.
Coach Osborne doesn't make emotional rash judgements or decisions like so many others, especially on any forum board, but instead puts a lot of thought into making a decision before taking action on it.
It's water under the bridge now but if the fan base had let Osborne's hand picked replacement, Frank Solich alone long enough the program likely would have went through more 9+ win seasons again before evolving back into another juggernaut. But the fan base however wanted no interruption in It's "national championship or bust" way of thinking and instead had Solich ran out of town.
So instead of letting things play out and letting Osborne guide Solich through both the minefield of unrealistic fan expectations of a championship team every year and the transitioning every program goes through after replacement a very successful coach Solich was fired and here we are getting what we deserve.
Anyone who grew up when Osborne took over from Devaney remembers how rough it was from the fans for Osborne from the time he took over until at least the early eighties until he could start winning some of the "big" games. If the internet and social media had been back then what it is today Osborne likely wouldn't have been the Nebraska coach after his 3rd or 4th season so give that some thought.
What I think should be given a chance to play out is a process where the pitchforks and torches need to be put down while we all step back and take back control of our emotions.
Of course everyone is upset how the last 20+ years have played out but it's time to start letting our current AD go through the due process of evaluating the current coaching staff and getting the best HC and staff hired that he believes will get the football program headed in the right direction.
I for one think that us emotional and demanding fans have done enough damage to the program for awhile. Let's sit back and see how the remainder of the season plays out and who will Trev finds to be our permanent HC going forward.
Coach Osborne doesn't make emotional rash judgements or decisions like so many others, especially on any forum board, but instead puts a lot of thought into making a decision before taking action on it.
It's water under the bridge now but if the fan base had let Osborne's hand picked replacement, Frank Solich alone long enough the program likely would have went through more 9+ win seasons again before evolving back into another juggernaut. But the fan base however wanted no interruption in It's "national championship or bust" way of thinking and instead had Solich ran out of town.
So instead of letting things play out and letting Osborne guide Solich through both the minefield of unrealistic fan expectations of a championship team every year and the transitioning every program goes through after replacement a very successful coach Solich was fired and here we are getting what we deserve.
Anyone who grew up when Osborne took over from Devaney remembers how rough it was from the fans for Osborne from the time he took over until at least the early eighties until he could start winning some of the "big" games. If the internet and social media had been back then what it is today Osborne likely wouldn't have been the Nebraska coach after his 3rd or 4th season so give that some thought.
What I think should be given a chance to play out is a process where the pitchforks and torches need to be put down while we all step back and take back control of our emotions.
Of course everyone is upset how the last 20+ years have played out but it's time to start letting our current AD go through the due process of evaluating the current coaching staff and getting the best HC and staff hired that he believes will get the football program headed in the right direction.
I for one think that us emotional and demanding fans have done enough damage to the program for awhile. Let's sit back and see how the remainder of the season plays out and who will Trev finds to be our permanent HC going forward.
Not know any of the background, I bet this poster is right.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Hahahaha. Good one. You do realize the Osborne apologists are the ones that get out the torches and pitchforks (before guys ever coach a game)? Ironic post is ironic
Please explain...
I offered up an explanation or my opinion not an apology in any way shape or form for how the football program has reached its current state and how we should all be patient and see how the remainder of the season and the HC search plays out.
However, you seem to want to classify me into a group that fits your narrative.
Good day
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Yea yea. I’m sure you were a frosturbator, and gave the same support to Riley and Callahan from day 1. Right. Fitting only the illiterate like your posts
The blame on Osborne is just idiotic at this point. If he really had as much power as some like to think, Callahan and Riley would have never been hired.
Osborne didn't have a ****ing thing to do with it. Trev is the AD and he's responsible.
This is what almost all of us wanted - unfortunately Callahan had ample opportunity and warning to get rid of Cos, and made it pretty clear they were a package deal.
Lots of whining and crying in the thread. Let Trev do his job and support the decision and the program.
The offense really got humming that year when Sam Keller got injured and Joe Ganz became the starter.
I'm not against Patterson because he is an outsider. I'm against Patterson because his last two seasons at TCU we're losing seasons. He's washed up
Ok so where is this open letter . People in this thread clearly can’t comprehend what they read or there are 2 letters being circulated .
Osborne did not have the authority to hand pick a replacement. Bill Byrne the Athletic Director had the authority to pick the replacement. The fact Osborne held a PC naming FS HC while Byrne was on vacation was dishonorable and insubordinate and led to a lot more scrutiny of Frank's performance.
There was more going on with Solich's staff than wins, losses and recruiting that factored into Pederson canning him. Besides, Pederson was Osborne's choice for AD since he had previously been Osborne's recruiting coordinator, So his thoughtful decision to endorse Pederson led to "his" AD canning "his" handpicked coach. I always suspected Pederson didn't like Solich from back when they were assistants and wanted him gone from the minute he took the job. So my opinion is the fanbase had very little to do with Solich getting fired. A lot of us were pretty happy with the season he was fired - some good wins.
Learned many years ago, I never regretted firing a poor performer but have regretted not doing it sooner
I always wondered that Solich deserved another year with his forced hire of new assistants. I liked that group of nine. But being the replacement for a legend, a Hall of Fame coach means lack of patience and a deviation from the recent norm demands change. In between we had three hires that I don’t miss. Two of them basically coached in the easier Big 12. The last fire, with Nebraska roots, seemed a very good up-and-coming head football coach. He was in over his head on a few critical components. The Big Ten is a step up and we have faltered and stepped down.
Now a second year AD has the major boosters, a new huge sparkling football facility and NIL to present to a new head football coach. This is the most important football hire and group of assistants in the history of the football program. We are blessed being in the Big Ten with football media rights probably second to none. In a few years the media rights alone will equal our entire athletic department budget for the very late 1990’s.
We need a head football coach with success in a power five conference or two and the known ability of evaluating teenagers very well and developing up to and beyond what the conventional wisdom suggests. A Osborne. I hope the entire Nebraska package produces a new head coach that is the best since Osborne on the field. We have sorely lacked teams and players who live up to and beyond those revered football recruiting rankings. Lol. GBR.
Now a second year AD has the major boosters, a new huge sparkling football facility and NIL to present to a new head football coach. This is the most important football hire and group of assistants in the history of the football program. We are blessed being in the Big Ten with football media rights probably second to none. In a few years the media rights alone will equal our entire athletic department budget for the very late 1990’s.
We need a head football coach with success in a power five conference or two and the known ability of evaluating teenagers very well and developing up to and beyond what the conventional wisdom suggests. A Osborne. I hope the entire Nebraska package produces a new head coach that is the best since Osborne on the field. We have sorely lacked teams and players who live up to and beyond those revered football recruiting rankings. Lol. GBR.
Yup. We are the only school in the country that would’ve kept on a legacy player that long….with that much incredible failure. Hell, Florida would’ve fired Tebow after 2 to 2.5 seasons. Loyalty be damned. It’s fascinating.
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I don't know the numbers, but a very large proportion of Nebraska fans would have been extremely upset if Frost was canned last year. THAT is the reason he was given one final chance.
Some needed to see Frost be given "one last final chance!" a half dozen times before they could accept moving on to someone else. So IMO, the blame belongs on those fans and not Trev.
Some needed to see Frost be given "one last final chance!" a half dozen times before they could accept moving on to someone else. So IMO, the blame belongs on those fans and not Trev.
I think by the types of posts that you make you are likely just an Iowa troll hiding out on this board as nothing constructive is ever suggested in your trying to typecast or name-calling posts.
Seems like a sad life and is a waste of time to spend so much time being so negative towards anyone of a different mindset.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Trevs job depends on his upcoming pick of head coach. So, I think its safe to assume that someone who makes a lot of money(Trev), is going to do his homework and consult many football saavy individuals. His/Their reasoning may be flawed, and his pick may flop, but I've no doubt Trev will believe he has hired the right guy from the available pool of candidates. Hindsight will prove him right or wrong.
I just hope that everyones appreciation of what Dr. Tom accomplished here has grown appreciably.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Sad face. All these fanboys, and none of you have a clue. It’s great when the illiterate have a need to clap approval like circus seals every time one of you gets your precious feels hurt
Lol, I know.
I have no idea how someone can have such a miserable life that they feel the need to troll others online to try and make themselves feel better.
Frost should have been cashiered after the Covid season, but Moos was still holding the AD reins. He could not make it work. And when his offense was stripped from him, he really started mailing it in.
Pederson thought he was more important than the program. He thought he could do better than Solich.
Great Frustration Post.
But they were probably hoping Scott could get things figured out. They brought in a bunch of new players and staff, so I think there was an attempt to avoid firing him.
Still your post brings up the topic of fan abuse.. maybe a bit silly to look at it like that, but in some ways, that is how it has felt to the loyal fan base to be treated to this garbage for as long as its been going on.
The only thing people can do is to vote with their wallets, clicks, and eyeballs. It's the only recourse each person has, individually.
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I mean, it doesn't take a huge leap to think that TO still has some say and/or influence.
Probably not all that hard to imagine that TO wanted Frost to get more time.
Probably not all that hard to imagine that TO wanted Frost to get more time.
I'm glad mg rolled with a frustration post. We only have 3 more weeks of ass-whoopings and then it's just in time for some, but not me, to watch the basketball team get drilled night after night.
I sat through the NU game yesterday, as I have forever, knowing that after that shitshow ends, at least at 2:30 I can watch some real football with Tennessee v. Georgia, and the later game with Bama v. LSU.
High-stakes games that matter. That used to be our fans. Now, seasons are spent trying to figure out a way to get 6 wins and play in the most minor of all bowl games. The dream matchup against UConn.
Fans that are fanatical about winning because their ADs and administration at some point hired the right guys in those places. Brian Kelly in Year 1, Heupel in Year 2. And we're still trying to find a winner after almost a decade.
There is a coach out there that can pull this off if given time. Chances are, the administration will manage to screw that up too.
You are not alone in watching SEC games. They are the premier league for good football, and it's only going to get better in the future.
Yep, it was a frustration post and I’m kinda embarrassed about it today. It’s not really my style to engage in pointless tantrums. It just really hit me yesterday how long we’ve all been waiting to see some basic competence from this program. Still waiting.
