Going from "NU won't win 5 games this year" to "NU might not win 5 games this year." Sounds like backpeddling to me! No gambling problem here. I didn't offer you the bet. Just find it funny that your kind likes to talk out of both ends. Carry on Homercles
Alabama record in Nick Saban's first year?
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So black shirt player picks and chooses who to respond to... Nice. You and Red Rover have this back and forth going on, but Huskersman34 posted some good stuff that you don't touch. Why is that? Doesn't fit your argument or something?
I am curious to see what you think about location as it relates to a coach's success.
I am curious to see what you think about location as it relates to a coach's success.
Great post tim.
We've had this exact conversation for years about a coaches pros and cons with location. I just feel like the new guys are arguing a point hashed out years ago. But i would love to hear his reasoning. Ok... maybe not. There was a time Kansas State was the worst of the worst. Snyder had to built them from worse then zero and his record payed for that. Riley was in the same boat yet that point keeps getting lost by some. Or maybe they just can't figure that out.
Waste of time making any kind of comparison now. Let the games/season play out then we can all voice our opinions later. In the meantime go fishing or something. Have fun.
You definitely like the word back-peddling, that's for sure. How am I talking out of both ends?
I just don't get into the chest-thumping, "hey, let's make a bet..." stuff. But hey, to each one's own.
My kind. Lol.
Yes, your kind Homercles. The kind that supported Pelini for years and years and now want to fire Riley after one game. Funny just a few days ago you were talking about some "blindly" following Riley. Something you did for how long under Pelini? Yet despite it being abundantly clear he was not going to get it done you still supported him! No idea if Riley will work out. Doesn't change the fact that Pelini needed to be let go and his actions and words after his firing solidified that. Not to mention the results on and off the field.
You do realize that Oregon State was a total dumpster fire before Riley got there right? I mean people say Kstate was the worst program in D1 before Snyder got there? That is false, Oregon State was and had been for 17 years they were 10 wins total worse from 1972-1998 they were worse than Kstate. That is how bad it was.
From 1972-1998 OSU didnt win more than 4 games in a season, and they ONLY did it 2 times. The rest of the time they won 2-3 games per year before Riley got there. In Rileys first year he won 5 games which OSU had not won that many games in a season for 27 years. OSU was a total Dumpster fire of a program, and they are still last in the Pac 12 in facilities. Tough to do much when your school doesnt commit anything to help you out as far as facilities, plus having Oregon right down the road was and still is a major hindrance.
http://hailvarsity.com/recruiting/nebraska-football-recruiting-class-1992/
Scroll down to see where our class ranked.
Again, you are lying to yourself. The whole "Nebraska never had good recruiting classes" - is a myth. Nebraska recruited with the best of the best. As I have said. This is to easy. Nebraska made its living on blue chippers. Just like everyone else. We had advantages sure, with our walk on program and partial qualifiers. But everyone had that. Partial qualifiers and walkons were not exclusive to Nebraska.
I addressed everything Huskersman34 did. I direct my post at Red Rover because he is lying. I point out his lies. I don't have anything against Red Rover, but when you compare our situation to that of Alabama when EVERYONE knew they were getting one of the best coaches you can get at any level. Saban accomplished WAY more then Riley did before accepting the job at Alabama. That isn't a knock on Riley because only Bobby Bowden, Pete Carrol and Maybe Stoops accomplished as much as Saban before going to Bama. Add Urban as well.
But making absolutely pointless statements and lying about things that do not apply to what I said is a joke. Saying I can't be a Husker fan because I didn't know Tom Osborne celebrated his first NC in a elevator is a joke and very condescending and I take great offense to that. I graduated from UNL and I would bet my Camaro SS 2012 that he didn't. So I am clearly a bigger Husker fan then him (sarcasm).
I am only pointing out his flaws. As I said and as Tom Lemming has said, we recruited as good as anyone during our 90's run. As I have linked above our 92 class was ranked between top 5 and 10. The guy you wanted me to reply to posted a link to the 93 class in which it again shows us in the top 10 and top 15. So my argument still stands. We recruited great. You have to if you want to be a top dog.
As I have said.... Riley is s good coach. That isn't enough. Bo was a good coach. He was just an ____hole and lazy at recruiting. Just as Red Rover pointed out. But our recruiting (even though it's early) is lacking as bad now as it did under Solich. Sorry, but when we fired Solich we were told we were not going to surrender the Big 12 to OU and Texas. When we fired Bo, after the 2009 season we were told we were back. Now we are told we will compete for conference and national championships if we give Riley a chance. He will have to show me. Because I refuse to follow propaganda that doesn't fit the situation as it stands.
Hypothetical situation as follows: You have a pretty good football program that 15 years ago was top of the game. Problem is the current coach could recruit better, but that takes more work. The media starts asking about recruiting because it's been about 15 years since the program was alone sitting right up on top. The coach gets all pissy with the media and says "we put the stars on the players". Coach has a change of heart, changes some things up, including recruiting. Now the coach will go out and find the best players that fit the system. The team goes on and sits alone at the top 3 out of 4 years. BUT, the coach's ego will not allow him to change his narrative of putting stars on players. Now there is a mindless following (picture the drooling, blank-eyed idiot) constantly chanting "we put stars on players, we put stars on players, we put stars on players". Just a hypothetical situation.
This thread has turned into a pissing contest.
With that said it appears that Red Rover 70 has won the contest by using the elevator thing.
With that said it appears that Red Rover 70 has won the contest by using the elevator thing.
Lol!
I was just think of some Husker stuff that you just couldn't Google to come up with an answer. The question came from Nebraska's National Championship Sports Illustrated Commemorative issue. If you have that issue you should have read about it. I figured someone with his college football knowledge plus being a Husker fan he would of bought that issue.
My whole point of this thread was to point out that even Nick Saban had a transition year at Alabama.
Then the hijacking occurred...
Then the hijacking occurred...
Hey, what ever it takes to win. Sometimes, just like in coaching, you have to be creative. LOL
You obviously have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Why you brought Pelini into this is beyond me. Hidden agenda much?
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