Good post !Full disclosure... didn't read the whole thread. I'm like "what the hell are these guys arguing about now?"
I just don't think 18-22 year old boys/men are that fragile mentally. They've been experiencing a leadership vacuum, and now that they have someone to tell them what to do I expect to enjoy next season. Not going to get bogged down with hand wringing over predicting W's or L's.
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So if they do get to eight wins this coming season, does that mean they are good at being P5 players?
If somebody had said that 3 years ago after Riley came in, people would have jumped on a comment like that, saying it was bashing the players. But now it's OK?
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I sense a master lock coming this threads way. 
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Sam Hahn says Walters is lying by saying the old staff didn't have them squat. Hmmm. This is a bad look for the new staff. Stuff like this out of the last regime, and the exact people saying it's ok now, would have been going nuclear.
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I thought mike Riley was the only liar out of memorial stadium.
I'm thinking it's a misquote. I think Walters said or meant, "the o-line didn't do squat in the weight room" not that they didn't do squats.
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Ahhh. More and more psychics on the board every day. Can you tell me who will win the World Series and Super Bowl this year? That would be great.
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Only thing I can figure is they don't think the new staff can get it done? Bunch of doubters around here. Frost and the boys will hopefully straighten out the loser mentality that is in the fan base.
Honest to God I can't figure out from post to post who you like or don't like.
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Umm. I like our coaches. Even supported Bo until he started publicly trashing the place. It's really not that complicated.
I know! I remember from the movie "Pork's" where they used dork...a whales dick, right? So funnyI have to chuckle at this. I have worked with kids for many years and when they and adults use the word "dork" I have them look it up. Tell me what you find!
Thread synopsis for lightspeed and others:
Former player says there is a culture problem.
Many fans respond, ‘uh oh!’
Disgruntled fan A, known for raising the worry of culture problems and catching lots of flack re: the last regime chimes in, cries foul because—now—fans are willing to lower their expectations and accept culture problems as a legitimate reason for losing.
Smart ass fan predicts thread will surpass 4.5 pgs. Proven to be Nostradamus on p.5. Rightfully gloats.
Former player chimes in. Not surprisingly points out that many did not understand the full meaning of the message.
Disgruntled fans B and C chime in. Gang up on disgruntled fan A. They have incommensurate takes on what made prior regime fail, and like disgruntled fan A are not prepared to ‘let it go.’ (Observation: it's really not about Riley and Frost anymore, folks.)
Disgruntled fan B characteristically starts fighting ghosts.
C accuses A of being a hypocrite. In doing so C misrepresents A’s claim or failed to see the point. Unclear which.
Curious fan enters. Wonders what all the hoopla is about.
Hence, synopsis.
Conclusion: this drama is better than a soap opera.
Former player says there is a culture problem.
Many fans respond, ‘uh oh!’
Disgruntled fan A, known for raising the worry of culture problems and catching lots of flack re: the last regime chimes in, cries foul because—now—fans are willing to lower their expectations and accept culture problems as a legitimate reason for losing.
Smart ass fan predicts thread will surpass 4.5 pgs. Proven to be Nostradamus on p.5. Rightfully gloats.
Former player chimes in. Not surprisingly points out that many did not understand the full meaning of the message.
Disgruntled fans B and C chime in. Gang up on disgruntled fan A. They have incommensurate takes on what made prior regime fail, and like disgruntled fan A are not prepared to ‘let it go.’ (Observation: it's really not about Riley and Frost anymore, folks.)
Disgruntled fan B characteristically starts fighting ghosts.
C accuses A of being a hypocrite. In doing so C misrepresents A’s claim or failed to see the point. Unclear which.
Curious fan enters. Wonders what all the hoopla is about.
Hence, synopsis.
Conclusion: this drama is better than a soap opera.
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Given the schedule and the new scheme the losses won't concern me as much this first year. What would concern me is a lack of effort or a roll over attitude we've had for far too long here at Nebraska. It seems like for the better part of the last 10+ years everytime we've played a team with pulse our guys get rattled when they get punched in the mouth.
I was most impressed by Frost's UCF squad in the sense that they never got rattled no matter what the scoreboard said. Their effort was there. I think Frost can give us that mentality in year 1 and I don't think that's too much to ask. If I was a betting man I'm sure he thinks the same.
To put it simply toughness. I want to see a mentally tough team. The physical toughness will come in time and the wins will then follow.
I was most impressed by Frost's UCF squad in the sense that they never got rattled no matter what the scoreboard said. Their effort was there. I think Frost can give us that mentality in year 1 and I don't think that's too much to ask. If I was a betting man I'm sure he thinks the same.
To put it simply toughness. I want to see a mentally tough team. The physical toughness will come in time and the wins will then follow.
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A former players parent on RSS has also said that it is untrue that the prior staff didn't squat. I find it ridiculous that there is a notion that the prior staff didn't do squats. They did. Now, did the players do it wrong or differently than the current staff is doing it? That is for a different argument. Every strength staff has their own way of doing things. Remember the big blowup when Boyd Epley took the records down from the Pelini staff after he said that the the wrong formulas were used to come up with the performance numbers?
There is a tweet out there from a former player from the 90's, I think(I can't find it anywhere) talking about how they did do squats, but that there were a select few players that worked hard at it.
Either way, I think that we can all agree that what the prior staff did was not working and the new staff is confident in what they are doing will change this team. No real need to throw the prior staff under the bus publicly, IMO, but it is what it is. I am looking forward to seeing the physical change in these players come this fall.
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Addendum to synopsis, missed a highlight circa p.4(ish).
Conspiracy Fan weighs in. He is always looking for the 'deeper meaning.' Claims the real reason Frost and Co. had to cancel visits for a weekend in January is that they needed to address alluded to culture problems head on. Does not buy the media's reasoning that it was about prioritizing offers and visits. Does not consider that the limited official visits may have played a significant role.
Conspiracy Fan weighs in. He is always looking for the 'deeper meaning.' Claims the real reason Frost and Co. had to cancel visits for a weekend in January is that they needed to address alluded to culture problems head on. Does not buy the media's reasoning that it was about prioritizing offers and visits. Does not consider that the limited official visits may have played a significant role.
The fact you have to include Northwestern and Iowa is our problem...lol.
There's not much I like less than righteous indignation. So Walters said the wrong thing, who cares? What, he hurt someone's feelings? There's going to be a lot of that going on.
From a few of the comments Frost has made. I don't think he even realized how bad things were.
You are right this is a complete rebuild. From the weight room/ nutrition, to practices, to player schedules, to player mentality. Riley was a nice guy but it could be argued he messed this program up worse than Bo
This.
Walters probably heard a rumor and, based on how out of shape the players were, believed it. He then repeated it. Oops. Send him to hell.
Squats or no squats, this team is weak, soft, and out of shape. Their play on the field last year is evidence enough. So maybe he got this little factoid wrong. But the larger point he was trying to make is clearly true.
Hay, I didn't say we couldn't beat either one
especially NW because we have better success in Evanston than in Lincoln.But the conference schedule makers didn't do us any favors years ago when they made these schedules ( come on @ tOSU and @ Michigan plus playing MSU) who ever was going to be the head Coach at Nebraska was getting a raw deal it just so happens it's SF first season.That makes no sense that expectations should be higher with Frost coming in than it was with Riley coming in. The expectations I have for every coach are the same. I expect every coach we have to be a great coach and get the most out of his players. If not, that coach doesn't belong here.
Why are we playing Ohio State four years in a row? Has Iowa or Wisky ever had to do that?Hay, I didn't say we couldn't beat either one
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