Would Frost ever run Osborne's offense?

[SlantsFlood6]

First time poster, and asking what i think is a legitimate question. I think Scott realizes that different places have different fits. He has coached under so many different mentors and styles of football. But wouldn't one think coming home, and the influence Osborne has had on him, lead him to the old playbook?
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[swissticuffs]

No, the kind of talent and mental makeup required to get that offense to perform at a high level is too hard to find....and kids dont want to play it.

 

[Off-tackle70]

I think he would stay in the spread.

 

[SDhusker12]

I think he would stay in the spread for reasons posted above. However, I could see a package or two plugged in for that formation.

 

[otismotis08]

He should bring back the Oz-bone.

 

[redwine65]

I would run Dr. Toms offense. pass happy fan said it didn't work 1 year, after we won 3 out of 4 NC's with it...
I'm not exactly sure what we have done since with pass happy offenses

 

[spinner4]

I think a better question would be, what offense would TO run in today's game

I think TO's offense today would be closer to zone read.

 

[SlantsFlood6]

I've always imagined Wisconsins offense, with a mobile quarterback. Sprinkle in some option out of the i formation and you've got a nasty north and south run game that works in any weather. GBR

 

[otismotis08]

I think a better question would be, what offense would TO run in today's game

I think TO's offense today would be closer to zone read.

Excellent question. Maybe his wife could ask him and then share with the board.

 

[phoenix4nu]

Anything without a statue quarterback would be a good start.

 

[jflores]

In all of football there are very few examples of coaches abandoning the system they know.

Frost will run an Oregon offense I would gather until he’s assured himself enough success to start tinkering.

He’s on the record that the chief reason teams fail at absorbing the Oregon O is because they don’t commit to the whole process ...they only want to take pieces of it and mesh it with something else.

I doubt that he personally would try that “master if none” path.

He has also opined that someone should attempt to combine Nebraska power game with Oregon speed game but it remains to be seen that he would do that immediately or if he’ll wait to establish himself before trying to reinvent the wheel

 

[HuskerBlueDevil]

When TO retired he said that if had continued coaching he would have probably morphed his offense in something like Meyer was then running at Utah.

 

[hddude55]

Scott is from the Chip Kelly coaching tree so can be expected to run Chip’s offense. But since Scott will be running it, the offense will be known as the Nebraska offense and it will be part of our culture.

 

[inWV]

When TO retired he said that if had continued coaching he would have probably morphed his offense in something like Meyer was then running at Utah.

This is public record I believe.

 

[Husker Sledge]

Why the hell would he change and run Osborne's offense? Good grief

 

[inWV]

The ability to run tempo is good, but being able to control the ball in critical in the B1G.

 

[Lincoln100]

Why the hell would he change and run Osborne's offense? Good grief

Because it was he best offense in the history of college football. Barry Switzer said so.

 

[TheNewNU]

The ability to run tempo is good, but being able to control the ball in critical in the B1G.

I've always held the belief that scoring more points than the other team when time has expired is the key to the game.

 

[SlantsFlood6]

So let me throw this out there just for fun....

Would the fans rather have

1. Scott frost---running same ucf/Oregon offense. Bringing his current ucf staff with him.

2. Craig Bohl----running Osbornes old offense bringing back gill/brown to help install and grow it.

 

[TheNewNU]

So let me throw this out there just for fun....

Would the fans rather have

1. Scott frost---running same ucf/Oregon offense. Bringing his current ucf staff with him.

2. Craig Bohl----running Osbornes old offense bringing back gill/brown to help install and grow it.

Craig is 59 so probably not a great choice. Granted he's had way more success than Riley in the past 5 years. Moos is gonna make a splash hire or he's going to hire Scott. those are the options.

 

[spinner4]

When TO retired he said that if had continued coaching he would have probably morphed his offense in something like Meyer was then running at Utah.

Which makes sense because Urban took a lot from TO’s offense. Certain plays that Meyer’s brags about as almost impossible to defend where straight from studying TO.

 

[inWV]

Osborne's offenses (evolved through the years like others do) with TO's caliber of players, yes. But substitute the first word with Riley, Frost, Pelini/Beck and I'd say yes as well. As the Bootleggers Boy said, it ain't the X's and O's, it's the Jimmies and the Joes.

 

[LBremser]

So let me throw this out there just for fun....

Would the fans rather have

1. Scott frost---running same ucf/Oregon offense. Bringing his current ucf staff with him.

2. Craig Bohl----running Osbornes old offense bringing back gill/brown to help install and grow it.

Craig Bohl was fired in 2002, he is never (in how ever many coaching years he has left) going to be a candidate for the HC position at NU.

 

[BadgerGrove]

Watching UCF's offense it seems they run a fair amount of power from the shut gun and spread formations. The offense has similarities other than the QB under center. Goal line situations he uses a full back and a tailback out out of the gun. The tailback is usually a foot or 2 behind the QB and off to the left or right.

The mesh option isn't all that different than the triple option of old. I personally like the older version as the action is faster. But I think the concepts are very similar and both force tough decisions for the DE's and LB's

 

[Franky-n-Luciano]

Craig is 59 so probably not a great choice. Granted he's had way more success than Riley in the past 5 years. Moos is gonna make a splash hire or he's going to hire Scott. those are the options.

Hiring Frost would be a splash hire! He’s the hottest name in coaching right now.

 

[SlantsFlood6]

I really enjoy these kind of conversations. I think it's pretty cool to hear some of "the fans" reactions over the years. That touchdown run against Wisconsin with Andy Janovich was the loudest I had heard the stadium in years imo. Nobody appreciates the fullback more than this place.

 

[inWV]

Would love to see more FB at NU.

 

[petmj1]

I feel there is misconception that Osborne ran the same offense throughout his career at Nebraska. Which we know is certainly not the case. He evolved over time....in particular, I saw a big change between the late 80's offense with the early 90's offense. We did not always run out of the I or power-I with two tight ends. Osborne started to run more single back along with shot gun and "trips" type of formations. Also saw a lot more "speed option" out of the single back. Believe I really noticed this when Keithen McCants was the QB for his senior year and it evolved more with Frazier, Frost, etc....while still maintaining his power running philosophy. I feel if Frost ends up being the coach, he would incorporate many of the same things but more from the "spread".....I remember reading a few years ago he stated he wanted to learn how to mix in more "power" with the Oregon spread offense. Would be interesting....

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Craig is 59 so probably not a great choice. Granted he's had way more success than Riley in the past 5 years. Moos is gonna make a splash hire or he's going to hire Scott. those are the options.

No offense to the former Husker but even with a 15-0 record and national title in FCS he is 33-26 the last 4 plus seasons where Riley is 30-28. So aside from the final year in FCS he is 18-26 at Wyoming. I don't think I would consider that way more success than Riley considering we know Pelini couldn't get it done at Nebraska and he played for a FCS title last year, Riley might could have had some success at that level as well.

 

[SlantsFlood6]

No offense to the former Husker but even with a 15-0 record and national title in FCS he is 33-26 the last 4 plus seasons where Riley is 30-28. So aside from the final year in FCS he is 18-26 at Wyoming. I don't think I would consider that way more success than Riley considering we know Pelini couldn't get it done at Nebraska and he played for a FCS title last year, Riley might could have had some success at that level as well.

I agree, but do we have our "Paul Chryst" out there? He wasn't too good at Pitt, but was a good fit back home at Wisconsin.

 

[jeans15]

I'd take that offense all day over any in college football today.

It had everything. The zone read killed Washington in 97.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I agree, but do we have our "Paul Chryst" out there? He wasn't too good at Pitt, but was a good fit back home at Wisconsin.

Are you asking if Craig Bohl and his 18-26 record at Wyoming is the equivelant of Paul Chryst 19-19 record at a P5 ACC school? Magic 8 ball gonna say "not so much"

 

[TruHusker]

The ability to run tempo is good, but being able to control the ball in critical in the B1G.

Just the B1G? Who doesn't want to do this?

 

[SlantsFlood6]

Are you asking if Craig Bohl and his 18-26 record at Wyoming is the equivelant of Paul Chryst 19-19 record at a P5 ACC school? Magic 8 ball gonna say "not so much"

I believe in a fit, as one places trash is another's treasure. I've always felt if Turner came here before Kansas things could be drastically different. I think momentum, timing, and not losing the shine off your apple (turnil gill/kansas). Thats why i hope Scott doesnt take say a Tennessee job and get run out in 4 years. Keep the shine Scotty!

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I believe in a fit, as one places trash is another's treasure. I've always felt if Turner came here before Kansas things could be drastically different. I think momentum, timing, and not losing the shine off your apple (turnil gill/kansas). Thats why i hope Scott doesnt take say a Tennessee job and get run out in 4 years. Keep the shine Scotty!

You are assuming Gill would be successful here when he hasn’t been anywhere else. Isn’t that sort of like Riley at Oregon St?

 

[barney44]

It had everything. The zone read killed Washington in 97.

I'd have to say that those were designed QB runs rather than the zone read. That read option play didn't really come around until the early to mid 2000's.

 

[barney44]

I remember reading a few years ago he stated he wanted to learn how to mix in more "power" with the Oregon spread offense. Would be interesting....

Watch some Auburn football and you'll see a quite a bit of power stuff being used from spread formations.

 

[barney44]

Are you asking if Craig Bohl and his 18-26 record at Wyoming is the equivelant of Paul Chryst 19-19 record at a P5 ACC school? Magic 8 ball gonna say "not so much"

Chryst didn't actually have to build much at Wisconsin either. They have a good base foundation and just need someone in place that can maintain and improve on what they find successful already.

 

[barney44]

In my opinion I'd have to say no Frost would never run TO's offense. That offense was what Osborne felt comfortable with running and it was his mind (and staff) that made it work. Frost is in to the spread option thing and to be honest it's probably better that he is. Many, many high schools are running spread offenses so getting players who are familiar with it isn't a difficult task.

 

[huskerfan1414]

No offense to the former Husker but even with a 15-0 record and national title in FCS he is 33-26 the last 4 plus seasons where Riley is 30-28. So aside from the final year in FCS he is 18-26 at Wyoming. I don't think I would consider that way more success than Riley considering we know Pelini couldn't get it done at Nebraska and he played for a FCS title last year, Riley might could have had some success at that level as well.

In all fairness you have to look at what Bohol walked into....no I am not saying he should be hired here nor am I trying to argue your comparison with Riley, but considering some of those losses are to power five teams which mountain west teams are at a disadvantage to anyway even without having a fairly new coach coming into a program that hadn't been too successful, I think the record gets skewed a bit plus they made some decent strides pretty quick under bohl and are in the hunt again this year for the conference.
Just some things to consider regarding bohl, you can say Riley walked into a bad situation too but I'd say bohl walked into a worse one and has done pretty well, wish him the best but I agree he's not a candidate.