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Very telling.Wow, that article really says a lot! This is Duval's 5th transition year and after looking at the kids, he and Frost were concerned with their conditioning. So they did some baseline testing and based on those baseline results, decided to scale everything back compared to what Duval would usually do when taking over a team.
I knew our S&C had been faltering but, that really seems to indicate very out of shape players.
Can't blame the last staff for anything, no matter how true it is.Wow, that article really says a lot! This is Duval's 5th transition year and after looking at the kids, he and Frost were concerned with their conditioning. So they did some baseline testing and based on those baseline results, decided to scale everything back compared to what Duval would usually do when taking over a team.
I knew our S&C had been faltering but, that really seems to indicate very out of shape players.
Why not?Can't blame the last staff for anything, no matter how true it is.
I think that is exactly who is to blame, how can you pass the blame on to someone else.Can't blame the last staff for anything, no matter how true it is.
Because it's been the standard here. Can't bring up any staff from the past and blame them, no matter how factual.Why not?
Pretty sure it goes to not being able to blame Bo for the toxins in the locker room Riley’s first year... if that holds true hen we can’t blame Riley for the lack of conditioning of Frost’s team.Why not?
Oh...yeah I am not buying into that. I will keep making fun of any and all the staffs.Because it's been the standard here. Can't bring up any staff from the past and blame them, no matter how factual.
Pretty sure it goes to not being able to blame Bo for the toxins in the locker room Riley’s first year... if that holds true hen we can’t blame Riley for the lack of conditioning of Frost’s team.
Just a call to be consistent in how we assign blame to current and former coaches...
I think we all had a gut feeling this team was out of shape during the season. This just shows is was worse than any of us could have imagined.
Unless one wants to question Frost's honesty, this team was in poor condition. Duval backed off intensity of workouts he had previously done in transition situations and there were still problems. This would indicate that the 0-12 UCF team transitioned better for Duval than the NU kids are transitioning.
They had basically almost 2 months off before starting training again. It's no wonder we had problems. On top of that you had a couple of highly motivated guys pushing themselves probably harder than they should have. Hopefully these guys recover quickly and fully and we never see it again.I think we all had a gut feeling this team was out of shape during the season. This just shows is was worse than any of us could have imagined.
I have very little doubt the players dictated how the practices and weight room activities went. As most of us know, If you let a kid dictate how much work they are going to do, it is going to be as little as possible. Riley wasn't a coach he was a friend.
I would rather just keep making fun of the lame coaches
Somebody is to blame and with this group that we have, it's on Riley. Obviously he and the team were checked out after the Arky St. game. The on-field results speak for themselves. We didn't go to a bowl game so there was no conditioning during the month of December. Sounds like several of our boys spent the holidays on the X-Box and eating warm pumpkin pies.
Unless one wants to question Frost's honesty, this team was in poor condition. Duval backed off intensity of workouts he had previously done in transition situations and there were still problems. This would indicate that the 0-12 UCF team transitioned better for Duval than the NU kids are transitioning.
If I am a kid, I am going to do some things over break and show up ready to work for the new coach.It is a little concerning that Duval had to tone down the program from what an 0-12 UCF team was able to handle.
Then again, it is his job to assess the current fitness of each athlete to make sure things like this don't happen. Frost told them to take a few weeks over the holidays to relax and be with family. You can't expect they are going to come back in great shape.
No words. Just unbelievable we were expecting these kids to compete in the BIG being prepared in that manner.
No wonder NIU was able to shove the ball up our ass. And Minnesota, who couldn’t score at all on mediocre teams.
I’m still at a loss as to find anything related to football that Riley was good at. One thing. Anything. Anyone?
This probably did not help the situation at all.I am guessing that for the last 2 months a lot of these guys have been doing what most of us did in college...#NotWorkOut
100% I seriously think he only criteria when looking for the next coach was, " hmm who is the least like Bo" Mike Riley- " No accomplishments, just above .500 win percentage, in his 60's. Nice guy. Name is not Bo Pelini. Yep, that will do. You are hired. "Answer me this: What in the world was Eichorst thinking when he hired Riley? Was it just a complete pendulum shift away from psyhco Bo?
I dont blame the previous coaches. This is on the players doing the work needed to drive the results.It's always easier to throw everything at the feet of the coaches. A culture needs to be established on the team where the players hold each other accountable. Need to have the strong leaders in the weight/locker room to drive the results.
This is not very good timing with only a week before LOI Day. Am sure other coaches will try to use this against Nebraska down the stretch.
You can't expect they are going to come back in great shape.
If I am a kid, I am going to do some things over break and show up ready to work for the new coach.
Obviously he and the team were checked out after the Arky St. game.
well considering the kids affected were brought in by the last staff - I think its safe to say going back even further is pointlessIt's not just the last staff, it was going on before that if you want accuracy.
But like I said, we can't talk about that
Because he is a nice guy!!!I think that is exactly who is to blame, how can you pass the blame on to someone else.