Williams suspended
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I'm not sure where you are going with this but you could use that argument against nearly any issue. While I agree that there could be more done about texting and driving, there are groups out there lobbying for harsher penalties and spreading the word about the dangers. I think a big reason too is the relative newness of texting and driving compared to drunk driving.
But the main difference as it relates to here between the outrage of the two issues is that this is a Nebraska football board and a Nebraska football coach was caught(again) risking his own safety and the safety of others due to his repeatedly poor choices.
I was thinking the same whiny group of recycled moronic "Husker fans" who still pray to their Bo Pelini posters hanging in their moms basement who show up here to throw rocks at ANYTHING the new AD and staff does. Just a hunch.
we are all happy he is going to be reinstated for selfish reasons
but lets at least be intellectually honest and admit that if this exact same scenario occurred at Iowa the tune being sung from most of the board would be a complete 180 with pages upon pages filled with words of disgust
as a Husker - glad he is reinstated - now lets move on
no need to defend the decision to outsiders
but lets at least be intellectually honest and admit that if this exact same scenario occurred at Iowa the tune being sung from most of the board would be a complete 180 with pages upon pages filled with words of disgust
as a Husker - glad he is reinstated - now lets move on
no need to defend the decision to outsiders
And so would they be defending keeping him too. It all looks different when it's your team.
I am with you. 99% of these boards had no control over the outcome of Coach Williams so I never read to much into it until all the facts and decisions were in. The people who are in charge handed down the punishment and that is that. I would have accepted any other outcomes that there could have been from the administration.(What other option was there?) Hopefully for Coach Williams and his family this situation will never occur again and everyone move's forward. We all make mistakes hopefully learn from them and move forward. That is what life is all about to me.
From the limited times I've been peripherally involved, missing time from work is the stated reason for dismissal. If you were to spend 30 days in lock-up, you better have vacation to cover it. Need to see your lawyer, better have vacation. Need to go to treatment/counseling, better have vacation.
Now the university administration can treat it at their discretion. If a 3rd DUI is representing our institution and our state with dignity, integrity and pride, then so be it.
I've read a few people who say we'd all want him fired if he was at another school, and I disagree. For the most part, I think fans of other programs aren't going to be up in arms about this issue. I wish people would stop saying that because for the most part it simply isn't true.
Since you are so well educated on this topic, enlighten me, when were his priors?? Context matters...
So the crafty part, you make candles in Oregon? Then maybe you know my friend Kathy ? She does quite well at the shows.
I am in this camp. I dont care how ANY other schools run their programs so however they would handle their situations. That is their business and this is Nebraska's business. So I say dont throw stones at a glass house to those other fan bases saying how Nebraska fans would react if he coached elsewhere.
For the most part, fans of other schools aren't paying attention to this. We're talking about a position coach, not even a coordinator. A lot of fans couldn't even tell you who the WR coach at their own school is. A few national analysts have expressed outrage(because that's what they're supposed to do), but they'll move on and focus on other things and it will be forgotten pretty quickly.
You're spot on with analysts. In a few weeks they will go back to spewing their $ec propaganda.
Imo - for the average person texting is worse than drinking six beers / eyes off road and however you want to describe it. That said alcohol is a poison delivered in a form to keep you likely below the phase of delirium or sedation for most people on a bell curve. Alcohol is a poison; that some are genetically prone to be very susceptable to and often its how they process it. There is great peer pressure to use it ; its still getting a pretty free pass, say compared to smoking - or even guns ; which surely kill less people than the poison of alcohol... Alcohol can cause euphoric thinking ( Delusional ); and walking/ talking blackouts ( guess who called the police in the much discussed incident? ). The moderated poison can cause aggressive actions ( abuse and more ); or gang rape of a situation or otherwise impaired. ......... Don't think coach thought he was impaired; we are blessed no one killed or forever altered - for him; he needs to skip poison imo / he is lucky; and maybe extended his life and will skip any abuse that may have flowed from this poison furthering its grip on him and transferring to others and family. Why do we need to drink this poison; well some are not as susceptible, and there is moderation. Why would most anyone drink more than two or three; to extend a high ? So you don't do drugs ( over 3 is poison)? Some times I am not very clear here; think I will go watch an advert for some guidance.
you are correct but i think for different reasons ... this isn't going to get a lot of national attention and the few mentions will fade very quickly because frankly Nebraska football isn't relevant ... I suspect the reaction might be little different had this occurred at Alabama
I guess where I'm going with it is that I believe some of those folks that are so sure he needs to be fired and can't believe we would even consider keeping him are the same folks that will send three texts on their morning commute and think nothing of it. It comes off as a little over the top. Now if you've had family or friends killed or injured by a drunk driver it becomes understandable that you extremely sensitive to the issue
I originally thought it was probably a little harsh. Very interested how the perfect people on here get through a day. Facts are the facts. He messed up, he's paying a price. No one was hurt thank god. Let's learn from it. Do gooders look yourself in the mirror today and meet yourself.
I don't think it has anything to do with our relevance, but I knew somebody would come up with this line. Some people just can't resist complaining about our "relevance".
Hunter Teafatiller got 3 DUIs in one year, and Pelini then made him a captain and put him on scholarship.
I'm not condoning these actions. Just pointing out that Nebraska Athletics has a precedent of being very lenient toward alcohol offenses. So nobody should be that surprised or outraged by this decision.
I'm not condoning these actions. Just pointing out that Nebraska Athletics has a precedent of being very lenient toward alcohol offenses. So nobody should be that surprised or outraged by this decision.
If I heard that some random person had 3 DUIs, I'd want that person to spend some time in jail. It's clearly a lesson that hasn't sunk in.
I would have fired the guy, but it's not my decision to make and I'm ok with it.
I'm more upset about what DiNardo thought about the team this year. It wasn't until I read that article, that I got a feel for his remarks, and that didn't sound to good to me. It could be a long season.
I'm more upset about what DiNardo thought about the team this year. It wasn't until I read that article, that I got a feel for his remarks, and that didn't sound to good to me. It could be a long season.
I couldn't tell you who Iowa had for position coaches nor would I give a shit how many dui''s the person had.
same guy who thought we were world beaters every other year that we've been in the conference. i assign him a zero on the credibility scale.
Agree with you. I said from the beginning that likely outcome would be a suspension with a path to returning to the staff. This was due to Williams being very good at his job. If he was one of the other position coaches and not a great recruiter in the same situation, he would have been terminated. And the outcome is likely the same at Iowa, Wisconsin, OSU, wherever in a similar situation.
I hate it when they spend so much time talking about the best conference by far in the country as well. What we need is some more Mountain West talk!!
Funny-I wasn't aware that Gerry Di Nardo decided how good we are going to be this year. I mean, he's the gold standard, right? He's never been wrong about us before, has he? Just admit it, you want to have a reason to be negative, and you found it, and now suddenly you treat him as if he really knows what he is talking about. I'm sure you never cared much before about what he said when he was positive about us in past years.
He's some BTN analyst.. usually very nice to Nebraska, so I was a bit surprised with his comments. There is an article over on husker extra
Considering how you always search for and how quickly you eat up anything negative about this program, I think it's you who needs to chill out.
I read the news like everyone else. I didn't have to search anything out. Either calm down or go pick a fight with someone else. I'm not interested.
Oh please - this fan base would be all over it. Not a chance it would be let go. Zero, none, Mazda, zippo
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