open borders under Hillary could easily have made it worse. How long into the pandemic do you think she would have waited before closing and restricting travel?
Do you really want to walk right into this buzzsaw?
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open borders under Hillary could easily have made it worse. How long into the pandemic do you think she would have waited before closing and restricting travel?
That's a meaningless statement. We cannot know how much better or worse an alternative president would have been. We only know about this one.
You’re right we don’t know how she would have handled this Pandemic, but the economy and market would have never reached the highest it did under Trump..
I think you're saying, well, the stock market got really high for a while there. It did, that's true. It's also true that all of those gains have now been entirely wiped out. We also have bungled how we're handling a global pandemic under this guy, so...kind of meaningless, at this point?
sure
Wiped out because of the virus and uncertainty of it same with the economy..
Hillary would have been sitting in the same boat but not above water...
That's kind of a weird, speculative answer. It doesn't make any sense, honestly. There are way, way too many unknowns that would have popped up over the last 3.5 years with a different administration to ever believe any point like that.
How so? Based on assumptions and what the media is force feeding you? We are very early on in this thing. The only way to tell if what Trump has done or didn't do worked is when this is all over. Then comparing the death rate, infection rate, longevity, ect to other countries.I think you're saying, well, the stock market got really high for a while there. It did, that's true. It's also true that all of those gains have now been entirely wiped out. We also have bungled how we're handling a global pandemic under this guy, so...kind of meaningless, at this point?
I agree his arrogance has finally caught up with him along with his self destruction of texting too much..
But if anyone thinks we would have been better off 3 1/2 years ago with Hillary is a looney..
still spouting the "hoax" hoax I see.I'm not even going to bother with the Hillary stuff, I'll just assume "not-Trump" in my explanation.
So, to start with, reports show that on its way out, the Obama administration briefed the incoming administration about the threat of a global pandemic. This is standard procedure when one administration is leaving and another one is coming in, it's not abnormal or "above and beyond" or anything, it's quite literally standard operating procedure. This was not taken seriously, and the group that reported to the president about global pandemics was disbanded. That is unlikely to have happened under a different administration, Republican or Democrat. So we would have had that.
Second, it is unlikely that any other politician in America would have downplayed this, called it a hoax, lied about its spread, and generally spread as much untruth about it as has already occurred (and is still actively occurring).
Third, it wasn't immigration that caused this, it was global travel. So, your point there is also moot.
Fourth, any other administration, provided they were taking this seriously, would have acted sooner and with greater severity in order to try to prevent what is now occurring and is going to occur.
So, just by assuming that things would have continued on as they had from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, to XXXXXXX administration, our response would have certainly been...different.
still spouting the "hoax" hoax I see.
Hillary would have let travel continue unfettered.
How so? Based on assumptions and what the media is force feeding you? We are very early on in this thing. The only way to tell if what Trump has done or didn't do worked is when this is all over. Then comparing the death rate, infection rate, longevity, ect to other countries.
the Dem's sensationalism was the hoaxhttps://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.
She would have had it under control immediately. Called bleach bitopen borders under Hillary could easily have made it worse. How long into the pandemic do you think she would have waited before closing and restricting travel?
That's kind of a weird, speculative answer. It doesn't make any sense, honestly. There are way, way too many unknowns that would have popped up over the last 3.5 years with a different administration to ever believe any point like that.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.
I'm not even going to bother with the Hillary stuff, I'll just assume "not-Trump" in my explanation.
So, to start with, reports show that on its way out, the Obama administration briefed the incoming administration about the threat of a global pandemic. This is standard procedure when one administration is leaving and another one is coming in, it's not abnormal or "above and beyond" or anything, it's quite literally standard operating procedure. This was not taken seriously, and the group that reported to the president about global pandemics was disbanded. That is unlikely to have happened under a different administration, Republican or Democrat. So we would have had that.
Second, it is unlikely that any other politician in America would have downplayed this, called it a hoax, lied about its spread, and generally spread as much untruth about it as has already occurred (and is still actively occurring).
Third, it wasn't immigration that caused this, it was global travel. So, your point there is also moot.
Fourth, any other administration, provided they were taking this seriously, would have acted sooner and with greater severity in order to try to prevent what is now occurring and is going to occur.
So, just by assuming that things would have continued on as they had from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, to XXXXXXX administration, our response would have certainly been...different.
I believe there are very few independents. People say they are to sound open minded, but in reality general elections are about rallying your base.I don’t think much of anything could change the minds of Trump’s base, the Republicans aren’t going to vote for a democrat. The question is can the Democratic nominee draw in minority and young voters to actually go vote, I don’t think Biden will, but Bernie hasn’t mobilized the young voters to even beat Biden in the primaries, so I don’t think that’s the answer either. The path in 2020 is simple, win Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and North Carolina. The remaining states are pretty solid, minus Florida which is always thought to be ready to go blue, but doesn’t ever actually seem to. The side that takes 3 of those 5 states wins the office.
There will be relaxed booze laws after it is all done.Do you think this virus will forever change the US? By that I mean will we see immigration changes. Health care changed? New laws and regulations? Social interactions? Spending habits? Work habits? How we interact with the rest of the world? Do you see the US as well as other countries becoming more self reliant?
Or do you think once this is all over we go back to how things were.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.
I'm not even going to bother with the Hillary stuff, I'll just assume "not-Trump" in my explanation.
So, to start with, reports show that on its way out, the Obama administration briefed the incoming administration about the threat of a global pandemic. This is standard procedure when one administration is leaving and another one is coming in, it's not abnormal or "above and beyond" or anything, it's quite literally standard operating procedure. This was not taken seriously, and the group that reported to the president about global pandemics was disbanded. That is unlikely to have happened under a different administration, Republican or Democrat. So we would have had that.
Second, it is unlikely that any other politician in America would have downplayed this, called it a hoax, lied about its spread, and generally spread as much untruth about it as has already occurred (and is still actively occurring).
Third, it wasn't immigration that caused this, it was global travel. So, your point there is also moot.
Fourth, any other administration, provided they were taking this seriously, would have acted sooner and with greater severity in order to try to prevent what is now occurring and is going to occur.
So, just by assuming that things would have continued on as they had from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama, to XXXXXXX administration, our response would have certainly been...different.
What’s True is if China would have been on the up and up with this and not tried to hide it, the world would have been more prepared..
Don’t need to tell you the story on this because I can tell you already have a clue on what unfolded by one of their doctors that found the virus..
Oops...you forgot the last part of the Snopes summation. I've noticed you're good at that.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
Mixture
What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.
What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.
That's hilarious. I know I left that out, because...I mean, can you read? All that is saying is he specifically did not call coronavirus itself a hoax. He called news of its impending outbreak the hoax. Please tell me how that in ANY way matters.
DudznStud, I can agree that Trump took this Corona virus lightly.But can you agree that Hillary wouldn’t have boosted the economy and stock market that Trump did accomplish till the corona virus hit the country..
I think it's fair to say Clinton would have promoted different policies and passed different budgets that wouldn't have had the same effect on the economy as this guy did. What would that have meant in reality? No one can be sure. We know that under this president, the stock market climbed, and then was ready for a correction at some point (meaning, a significant but stable decrease in value followed by more growth of some degree). There is nothing else to say about it, and again, I don't think this matters at all right now.
The correction your talking about wouldn’t have dropped like it has or about too because of the virus..
It must matter to you because it’s the only thing you can discredit Trump on his handling of the corona crisis, other than his arrogant tweeps..
The correction your talking about wouldn’t have dropped like it has or about too because of the virus..
It must matter to you because it’s the only thing you can discredit Trump on his handling of the corona crisis, other than his arrogant tweets..
IF she handled it like she did Benghazi she would just be finding out about COVID-19 after sleeping through it. Not that there's anything wrong with a nap.You’re right we don’t know how she would have handled this Pandemic, but the economy and market would have never reached the highest it did under Trump..
I've said many times that our country is in a sad state when the best candidates we can get are the ones we have currently. I said the same thing the last election. I think the Democrats screwed up big time when they ran off Tulsi Gabbard. She would have drawn a lot of Republican crossover and would have won independants. Instead we'll get Crazy Joe against Daffy Donald.Actually, I didn't like either of them 3 1/2 years ago. Out of 330 million people, these are the best two we came up with?? But at this point Trump's actions over the last 3 1/2 years have me longing for anyone other than him. Even Hillary.
Hindsight is 20/20. At first I thought this might burn itself out in China like SARS did. Once it was apparent that it wasn't going to Trump started with the travel ban then it escalated from there. You will recall that the "progressive" media was calling him a racist for the China travel ban. It's easy to say now that they should have done more.This administration could, and should have responded more quickly. That has nothing to do with any prior candidate, we can armchair quarterback all we want. Regardless of what one feels about our President, we all should hope this is handled well for the health of our countries citizens and economy.