What's people think nebrasketballs chances of making the big dance are
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zero, zip, zilch, nada. Don't kid yourself or get your hopes up, and I don't care whether Michigan ended up running the table. UNL will be a one or two seed in the NIT. Get in some extra practice and some win or go home tournament experience. Work hard to keep everyone in the fold, and take another step next year.
If I had to bet, oh wait, I have. I’d bet out. But if I had money on out (I don’t) I wouldn’t feel 100% safe either.
This team won 13 conference games including a win over the 7th ranked team in the nation by 20. It has a convincing win late in the season over another bubble team in Penn State. It has a win over Minnesota who was ranked in the top 15 when they played. It has a buzzer beater 3 pt shot loss to KU, a likely one seed.
For all who tell me to live in reality, I’d offer back to you the advice of standing up for your team. Fans of every other bubble team are stating their case of why they should get an invite.
Nebraska fans can’t tell you enough how they have no shot.
This team won 13 conference games including a win over the 7th ranked team in the nation by 20. It has a convincing win late in the season over another bubble team in Penn State. It has a win over Minnesota who was ranked in the top 15 when they played. It has a buzzer beater 3 pt shot loss to KU, a likely one seed.
For all who tell me to live in reality, I’d offer back to you the advice of standing up for your team. Fans of every other bubble team are stating their case of why they should get an invite.
Nebraska fans can’t tell you enough how they have no shot.
While your finger-wagging is duly noted, the OP didn't ask whether I thought the Huskers deserved to be in the tournament - the question was whether or not I think they're getting in. Do I think Nebraska deserves a bid more than Arizona State, which finished 9th in a pretty weak 12-team conference? Yes I do, but it does not matter - ASU is almost certainly going to get in.
Before NU played Illinois, I was of the opinion that the Huskers needed three more wins to get a bid. They got two wins, but not three. So my opinion hasn't changed based on an overreaction to the Illinois loss, an overreaction to the Michigan loss, a desire not to be disappointed or any of your other keen insights into how Husker fans think. I just happen to believe that NU came up one game short.
I saw on nycbuckets.com that they have Nebraska as a #1 seed in the NIT tourney. It's all still speculation at this point in my opinion. I still think there is a slim chance Nebraska makes the dance.
The only chance NU has is if the committee wants to set a precedent in college basketball for having a good conference record and also the last 10 record. In other words, reward teams for winning over rewarding teams for playing a difficult schedule. I almost feel like the Huskers basketball team will become a landmark case for the NCAA committee for years to come. It's version of Roe vs Wade.
If the NCAA turns down a team that's 8-2 in their last 10 (16-4 in their last 20), and 13-5 in conference then it sets a standard of something that it use to be against by denying winners and taking a teams of the likes of Texas, Alabama, & Marquette. ( 3 teams, many have in on us)
- Alabama is 3-7 in its last 10 games. 8-10 in conference. That would be a new low for the NCAA.
-Texas 4-6 in its last 10 games. 8 -10 in conference. Almost just as bad as Bama
- Marquette 5-5 in its last 10 game. 8-8 in conference play.
If I am on the committee I take NU over all 3 of those schools just so that we don't reward teams that have lost a lot at the end of the season regardless of the strength of schedule.
What I look at if I am on the committee:
-I don't know what NU's record would be if it played Bama's schedule these last 10 games. But I do know, Bama did not do well the last ten games. So I believe by using what I do know, Nebraska could either be about the same as Bama or better. And I'd give the unknown the benefit of the doubt to do better.
-I also know that 36 teams are going to get beat between Tuesday and Friday in the NCAA tournament. That is guaranteed. I am pretty sure that a few of those teams will get beat pretty badly. So, it's ok to error a little bit if your the committee. I'd rather error by selecting a team with a winning record over a team with a crappy record.
Assume NU gets in, and gets blown out. No one will say anything. Huskers were very hot at the end of the season and had a good conference record. Maybe people point out the SOS... Now lets assume Bama or Texas gets in and gets blown out. The indicators are there. Awful in their last 10 games. Losing conference record. etc. A
-The eye ball test / human opinion. That use to matter. NU looks better than those teams and many others. How about just looking at the dam games for a change. UT is awful. AWFUL!!! Bamba is all they have and he's not that great IMO. Let's just get passed the SOS & RPI for a change and value teams like we use to.
If the NCAA turns down a team that's 8-2 in their last 10 (16-4 in their last 20), and 13-5 in conference then it sets a standard of something that it use to be against by denying winners and taking a teams of the likes of Texas, Alabama, & Marquette. ( 3 teams, many have in on us)
- Alabama is 3-7 in its last 10 games. 8-10 in conference. That would be a new low for the NCAA.
-Texas 4-6 in its last 10 games. 8 -10 in conference. Almost just as bad as Bama
- Marquette 5-5 in its last 10 game. 8-8 in conference play.
If I am on the committee I take NU over all 3 of those schools just so that we don't reward teams that have lost a lot at the end of the season regardless of the strength of schedule.
What I look at if I am on the committee:
-I don't know what NU's record would be if it played Bama's schedule these last 10 games. But I do know, Bama did not do well the last ten games. So I believe by using what I do know, Nebraska could either be about the same as Bama or better. And I'd give the unknown the benefit of the doubt to do better.
-I also know that 36 teams are going to get beat between Tuesday and Friday in the NCAA tournament. That is guaranteed. I am pretty sure that a few of those teams will get beat pretty badly. So, it's ok to error a little bit if your the committee. I'd rather error by selecting a team with a winning record over a team with a crappy record.
Assume NU gets in, and gets blown out. No one will say anything. Huskers were very hot at the end of the season and had a good conference record. Maybe people point out the SOS... Now lets assume Bama or Texas gets in and gets blown out. The indicators are there. Awful in their last 10 games. Losing conference record. etc. A
-The eye ball test / human opinion. That use to matter. NU looks better than those teams and many others. How about just looking at the dam games for a change. UT is awful. AWFUL!!! Bamba is all they have and he's not that great IMO. Let's just get passed the SOS & RPI for a change and value teams like we use to.
I was at an Omaha Lancers game many years ago when a guy made that shot. Turned out he had never held a hockey stick in his life, but he drilled it from 3/4 ice.
I'm not finger wagging. I just don't understand why fans are so defeated. We aren't being asked to sit on the committee and make a neutral observation. I can guarantee you, OU fans aren't giving up, even after a really horrible stretch of basketball. Same with ASU fans. Even in the face of truth, we disbelieve media if it comes to politics, but when it comes to our team... throw in the towel! We have zero chance!
People are seriously afraid of getting their hopes up to have them dashed. Big deal. As stated, I believe the odds are low, but I will hold out hope and continue to state Nebraska's case until Sunday goes by without hearing our name.
Call me a homer, an optimist, unrealistic... big deal. I also held out hope that Nebraska would beat Wisconsin in football last year. Was proved to be wrong, but I don't regret for a moment holding out hope.
No, we're not. You've just convinced yourself of that because you've repeated it over and over and over and over again the past several weeks.
If you believe NU is getting into the tournament, more power to you. I have no desire to convince you otherwise, or to offer an exhausting, pseudo-intellectual analysis of why you might think that way. As for me, I clearly stated what I thought NU needed to do to make the field of 68, and they came up short. It has absolutely nothing to do with me not wanting to get my hopes dashed, no matter how many (hundred) times you contend otherwise.
I think if someone asks the question "Do you want Nebraska to make the NCAA tourney", they would get an overwhelming "yes".
But that wasn't the question posed.
But that wasn't the question posed.
Nice write-up, however you continually quote metrics that the committee doesn't care about (latest trends).
Quadrant 1 wins are what get teams in the tournament. It's actually a pretty easy concept to understand for fans of teams not listed under, "Next four out".
Let's just say there are some teams with work to do to make it in over us, and not all of them are going to put in that work...
Please stop showing me Quadrant 1 RPI wins, if that was the only deciding point why not put in St. Johns or Boston College in over us too?
Big 10 is not getting 9 teams in (7)...
Kansas
Texas Tech
TCU
West Virginia
Kansas State
>>>Insert Nebraska here<<<
Two of the following are out behind Nebraska
Baylor needs a win
Oklahoma needs a win
Texas needs a two wins Iowa State and one more
Oklahoma State needs two wins Oklahoma and...
SEC is not getting not getting 9 in (7)...
Auburn
Tennessee
Missouri
Kentucky
Florida
Arkansas
Texas A&M (Needs to beat Alabama)
>>>Insert Nebraska Here<<<
Alabama (Needs to make the championship game)
Mississippi State(Needs a quality win so needs to beat LSU and beat a good team after that too)
Pac 12 is not getting 5 in (3) maybe 4...
Arizona
>>>Insert Nebraska Here<<<
USC (Needs one win in the Pac 12 tournament)
UCLA (Needs one win in the Pac 12 tournament)
Arizona State (Needs one win in the Pac 12 tournament
Utah (Needs two wins in the Pac 12 tournament)
Washington is OUT
ACC may get 9 in but I am predicting 8...
Virginia
Duke
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Miami
North Carolina
NC State
>>>Insert Nebraska Here<<<
Florida State (Beat Louisville they are in, lose they are out)
Louisville (Beat Florida State they are in, lose they are out)
Syracuse (Needs two wins Wake Forest and then one more)
Notre Dame (Needs to make the championship Game)
Big East is not getting 7 in (5) maybe 6...
Villanova
Xavier
Seton Hall
Creighton
Butler (May need a win, but I think they are in)
>>>Insert Nebraska Here<<<
Marquette (Needs two wins in the Big East tournament DePaul and...)
Providence (Needs to beat Creighton)
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I am sure everyone 'hopes' Nebraska is in. I hope they are in but sorry, they aint in.
I can make a case for all those teams above Nebraska because they have actually BEAT SOMEONE, (and I don't like Texas getting in), and like it or not, in more respected conferences than the BIG this year.
Ok, lets get past the SOS and RPI. South Dakota State, 26-6, 9-1 in last 10, you are a.....2 seed!
Great another chance to go play a game on National TV at Madison Square Garden.
I don't think you are tracking. I stated very clearly, if I had to bet TODAY, that I would bet that they won't make it. But I'm holding out hope that the committee will do the right thing. I am holding out HOPE.
We are seriously the only fan base running around saying how unworthy we are. It's really weird.
Is it hard to play the role of Debbie Downer so eloquently?
We seriously have the most pouty fans I've ever come across.
I dream of getting the winning Powerball ticket too. How far does that ever get me?
Man let's throw St. John's in ahead of us too then, because they beat Duke, @Villanova and us on a Neutral Court. You guys have one mission to show everyone that Nebraska has one Quadrant 1 win, and this amazing 17-14 Alabama team has 5.
Last I checked chalking wins up does matter a little bit. Somebody threw out the "16 of our 22 wins are against teams with a losing record" well here is my response to that. We were the reason they had a losing record...
Here is my response to that...
"lol... If we don't sweep Wisconsin and Minnesota they both end up not having losing records
that makes it 12...
If Rutgers beats us both games they don't have a losing record...
That makes it 10...
If we don't beat Northwestern they don't have a losing record
So that is 9...
So what exactly are you saying? Should we not win the games? See what you did was, you didn't take everything into account to blurt out a negative statistic. Saying 9 of our 22 wins came against teams with a losing record just doesn't sound bad enough to you I guess. See what you don't get is someone needs to win those games and usually it isn't us, and we are the team with the losing record.
Sorry I rather win those 7 games, maybe that is just me though.
Let's say we lose those games
Wisconsin = 17-16
Minnesota = 17-15
Rutgers = 17-17
Northwestern = 16-16
Nebraska = 15-17
Man our conference would look so much better wouldn't it, because we'd be log jammed in the middle with all the other teams and the Big 10 would of gotten 6 teams in Penn St and Maryland would be locks. Man how dumb of us to win those ball games!"
Giving an objective opinion does not make me a Debbie Downer. I've been telling people since the OSU loss that our chances were not good due to many factors. It is the reality of the situation. If this were 2014 I might feel more confident, but it isn't.
If they make it back to msg, it would be for the nit final four. I know, it's not what people want to hear. Believe me, I want this team to make the big dance, just think it's really slim at this point.
St. Johns made Nebraska look stupid on the court this season. Probably not the team you want to talk bad about.
Let me try to quote this again. I'm not sure I've figured this out. "Great another chance to go play a game on National TV at Madison Square Garden."
Maybe I'm crazy, but that sure had the tone of someone being sarcastic to me. Maybe I'm wrong.
Congrats you got me there. Maybe you should look at Nebraska's road/neutral court record this year too.
Wow so Nebraska split with them almost even results. One at home, one on a neutral court. Guess which one looks better?
No, we're seriously not. Go to an Arizona State board and you'll see that a lot of their fans either don't think the Devils will get in, or don't think they should get in. Maybe you could perform some amateur psychoanalysis on them.
Again, dodging the point I'm making. You and others like you are just negative people.Congrats you got me there. Maybe you should look at Nebraska's road/neutral court record this year too.
Here's what I know. This team made up of transfers were playing for the first time together this year. In the beginning of the year, they didn't know how to play together. By the end of the season, they knew their roles and actually resembled a team that not many in the Big Ten wanted to face. Unfortunately, they ran up against a hot Michigan who made Michigan State and Purdue look a little silly in the conference tournament also.
I'm sorry that I can see the positives from this team. I'm sorry that you insist on pointing out the negatives. There are negatives from Syracuse, Arizona State, Oklahoma, but our fans would rather spend their time pointing out Nebraska's shortcomings.
All I'm suggesting is that it might be a little more fun to actually get behind the team you're a fan of. Defend them vs. knocking them. Ultimately, you do you.
But I'll say this, the odds are not zero. And while I agree and understand they are slim, I believe this team has a shot and I'll be thrilled if they get their name called.
I imagine some on this board (I'm not accusing you of this) would actually be pissed to hear Nebraska's name called.
Fair point. I shouldn't have compared the negative fans on here to other teams' negative fans. Of course there are negative people for all teams. It just seems hard to find a positive one on this fan board.
Go Big Red.
