What's people think nebrasketballs chances of making the big dance are

[big red22]

Wow so Nebraska split with them almost even results. One at home, one on a neutral court. Guess which one looks better?

Did we get St. John's at home?

Let me extend that did we get any of the following at home?

Michigan State
Purdue
UCF
St. Johns
Ohio State

You claim to be a huge husker basketball fan, but only find reasons why we should not (will not) be in the tournament. You're not being a realist your being a shallow minded dictator. You keep claiming that Quadrant 1 is the end all be all... Show me one article that claims your statement? As far is I can see it is just a new formula that is included

1. Take the Delaware State game and make them a DII school our RPI is in the Mid 40's

2. If Penn State and Maryland beat us they are both in the tournament right now, but since we are the team at 13-5 they aren't NCAA caliber teams... Right got it

3. Alabama had "Insert Quadrant 1 wins here"... THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE 15 LOSES! Losing to a 12-19 Mississippi doesn't matter? Bull S***

4. RPI is one metric... It is not the only metric the Committee will use, and that has been stated multiple time by Bruce Rasmussen

I'm done stating facts to prove your arguments are weak

 

[huskerfan66]

Slim and none and slim left town

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

About .092%. In my best @Louisiana Husker voice. Bow to me.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

While your finger-wagging is duly noted, the OP didn't ask whether I thought the Huskers deserved to be in the tournament - the question was whether or not I think they're getting in. Do I think Nebraska deserves a bid more than Arizona State, which finished 9th in a pretty weak 12-team conference? Yes I do, but it does not matter - ASU is almost certainly going to get in.

Before NU played Illinois, I was of the opinion that the Huskers needed three more wins to get a bid. They got two wins, but not three. So my opinion hasn't changed based on an overreaction to the Illinois loss, an overreaction to the Michigan loss, a desire not to be disappointed or any of your other keen insights into how Husker fans think. I just happen to believe that NU came up one game short.

He's been having a heck of a time with his emotions.

 

[schuele]

About .092%. In my best @Louisiana Husker voice. Bow to me.

Remember, some anonymous selection committee member assured Marc Boehm that if the Huskers won two of their last three regular season games, they had a 72% chance of getting a bid.

Or maybe he just wanted get off the phone with Marc Boehm. Or maybe Marc Boehm is so full of crap it's coming out his ears.

 

[huskerfan66]

Somebody on here owes me $100 IF we don't make the dance. I guess I might have to go check old posts and see who!

 

[chicolby]

I'm going with the fragile fan, personally.

Somebody on here owes me $100 IF we don't make the dance. I guess I might have to go check old posts and see who!

It's me. I was trying to figure out who it was that took my bet.

Obviously, I'd rather be in your position, but I'm not throwing in the towel quite yet.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Dang, if someone asked the question; what are the odds Nebraska is a 1 seed in the NIT?

I bet the responses would all be positive and show the strengths of the program.

The point is that the chances of making the NCAA tournament are slim. Could they make it? Sure but by the way the question was posed, the responses are a reflection of how people believe it will go down.

 

[huskerfan66]

I'm going with the fragile fan, personally.

It's me. I was trying to figure out who it was that took my bet.

Obviously, I'd rather be in your position, but I'm not throwing in the towel quite yet.

Good for you. That's the best attitude.

 

[schuele]

Dang, if someone asked the question; what are the odds Nebraska is a 1 seed in the NIT?

I bet the responses would all be positive and show the strengths of the program.

The point is that the chances of making the NCAA tournament are slim. Could they make it? Sure but by the way the question was posed, the responses are a reflection of how people believe it will go down.

Apparently honest opinions are unacceptable. We're supposed to be more concerned about gaining approval from the Johnny SuperFan Club.

I really thought NU was in if they beat Michigan on Friday. Many other people thought NU needed to win that one, plus beat Michigan State in the semis. Funny, it never even occurred to me to bloviate about how much better fan I am than those negative Nellies.

 

[Iafootballfan]

Man let's throw St. John's in ahead of us too then, because they beat Duke, @Villanova and us on a Neutral Court. You guys have one mission to show everyone that Nebraska has one Quadrant 1 win, and this amazing 17-14 Alabama team has 5.

Last I checked chalking wins up does matter a little bit. Somebody threw out the "16 of our 22 wins are against teams with a losing record" well here is my response to that. We were the reason they had a losing record...

Here is my response to that...

"lol... If we don't sweep Wisconsin and Minnesota they both end up not having losing records

that makes it 12...

If Rutgers beats us both games they don't have a losing record...

That makes it 10...

If we don't beat Northwestern they don't have a losing record

So that is 9...

So what exactly are you saying? Should we not win the games? See what you did was, you didn't take everything into account to blurt out a negative statistic. Saying 9 of our 22 wins came against teams with a losing record just doesn't sound bad enough to you I guess. See what you don't get is someone needs to win those games and usually it isn't us, and we are the team with the losing record.

Sorry I rather win those 7 games, maybe that is just me though.

Let's say we lose those games

Wisconsin = 17-16

Minnesota = 17-15

Rutgers = 17-17

Northwestern = 16-16

Nebraska = 15-17

Man our conference would look so much better wouldn't it, because we'd be log jammed in the middle with all the other teams and the Big 10 would of gotten 6 teams in Penn St and Maryland would be locks. Man how dumb of us to win those ball games!"

Which team do you think you deserve to be ahead of and let's compare the resumes quick.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Apparently honest opinions are unacceptable. We're supposed to be more concerned about gaining approval from the Johnny SuperFan Club.

I really thought NU was in if they beat Michigan on Friday. Many other people thought NU needed to win that one, plus beat Michigan State in the semis. Funny, it never even occurred to me to bloviate about how much better fan I am than those negative Nellies.

#superfan

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Remember, some anonymous selection committee member assured Marc Boehm that if the Huskers won two of their last three regular season games, they had a 72% chance of getting a bid.

Or maybe he just wanted get off the phone with Marc Boehm. Or maybe Marc Boehm is so full of crap it's coming out his ears.

Your past paragraph is about as accurate as any post on the history of this board.

 

[dand84]

Slim to none. That should have been fairly clear given how they went out of the big10 tournament. They had a struggle getting in before the loss. I would find it odd if they got in given their lack of victories against good teams. “Good” losses don’t count. I would love to see my team in of course, but if we were having this convo about any other team ......

 

[huskerfan66]

Apparently honest opinions are unacceptable. We're supposed to be more concerned about gaining approval from the Johnny SuperFan Club.

I really thought NU was in if they beat Michigan on Friday. Many other people thought NU needed to win that one, plus beat Michigan State in the semis. Funny, it never even occurred to me to bloviate about how much better fan I am than those negative Nellies.

I think a win over Michigan w ould more than likely got us in.

 

[Larry Hagman's Liver]

Remember, some anonymous selection committee member assured Marc Boehm that if the Huskers won two of their last three regular season games, they had a 72% chance of getting a bid.

Or maybe he just wanted get off the phone with Marc Boehm. Or maybe Marc Boehm is so full of crap it's coming out his ears.

I think Marc Boehm got Shim Shammed on that one.

 

[newAD]

Did we get St. John's at home?

Let me extend that did we get any of the following at home?

Michigan State
Purdue
UCF
St. Johns
Ohio State

You claim to be a huge husker basketball fan, but only find reasons why we should not (will not) be in the tournament. You're not being a realist your being a shallow minded dictator. You keep claiming that Quadrant 1 is the end all be all... Show me one article that claims your statement? As far is I can see it is just a new formula that is included

1. Take the Delaware State game and make them a DII school our RPI is in the Mid 40's

2. If Penn State and Maryland beat us they are both in the tournament right now, but since we are the team at 13-5 they aren't NCAA caliber teams... Right got it

3. Alabama had "Insert Quadrant 1 wins here"... THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE 15 LOSES! Losing to a 12-19 Mississippi doesn't matter? Bull S***

4. RPI is one metric... It is not the only metric the Committee will use, and that has been stated multiple time by Bruce Rasmussen

I'm done stating facts to prove your arguments are weak

St. Johns???? You brought up Michigan. One game at home one on a neutral court. Sound familiar? It should, because they are the only one on the schedule that fit. Try to keep up while you toil in Fantasy Land.

RPI is one metric, correct. So lets see here, they are going to consider RPI, and they are going to break down the wins and losses and Quads by the RPI. I'd say that makes it a pretty important metric. Hmmmmm.

I have never Quad 1 wins are the end all be all, and I challenge you to find where I said that. What they are, are very important starting points to start a discussion about every team. When it comes to Nebraska that those numbers are terrible. I can't find a bubble team listed ahead of Nebraska or projected 10/11 seed (according to Bracketwag) who's numbers are worse (and I threw in OU since they are skidding but listed as a 9 as of today, for all the below).

I can't find a bubble team or projected 10/11 seed best road win worse than Nebraska's is with Nebraska at 109 (Wisconsin).

I can't find a bubble team or projected 10/11 seed who's Strength of Schedule is as low as Nebraska's at 96.

I can only find 2 bubble teams or projected 10/11 seeds who's Strength of Record is worse than Nebraska's at 59. Oh and those two are within 7 spots.

I can find only 1 bubble team or projected 10/11 seeds who ranks behind Nebraska in ESPN's Power Index, and that's Providence 9 spots back.

I can only find 4 bubble teams or projected 10/11 seeds who rank behind Nebraska in Kenpom. 3 of the 4 are within 7 spots, and one is 15 spots back.

I can only find one bubble team (Oklahoma State listed in the first four out) listed ahead of Nebraska, with a worse RPI.

Nebraska has beaten 1 team that is currently projected (and we know will be in the dance) which is likely the only one. It remains to be seen how the rest of the teams do, but Nebraska with 1 will be towards the bottom.

So I can't be a big fan and still be objective?

Oh, and my arguments are weak?

But, but, but, we're 22-10!

 

[newAD]

Again, dodging the point I'm making. You and others like you are just negative people.

Here's what I know. This team made up of transfers were playing for the first time together this year. In the beginning of the year, they didn't know how to play together. By the end of the season, they knew their roles and actually resembled a team that not many in the Big Ten wanted to face. Unfortunately, they ran up against a hot Michigan who made Michigan State and Purdue look a little silly in the conference tournament also.

I'm sorry that I can see the positives from this team. I'm sorry that you insist on pointing out the negatives. There are negatives from Syracuse, Arizona State, Oklahoma, but our fans would rather spend their time pointing out Nebraska's shortcomings.

All I'm suggesting is that it might be a little more fun to actually get behind the team you're a fan of. Defend them vs. knocking them. Ultimately, you do you.

But I'll say this, the odds are not zero. And while I agree and understand they are slim, I believe this team has a shot and I'll be thrilled if they get their name called.

I imagine some on this board (I'm not accusing you of this) would actually be pissed to hear Nebraska's name called.

Yes, you got me there, I would be so pissed that the team I have been watching and listening to on the radio for decades, dying to watch them get one lousy tournament victory got an unexpected ticket to the dance! Right. That's why I am keeping my schedule open to possibly go to Dayton.

Oh again, being objective when looking at facts and criteria does not make someone negative. See my prior post.

 

[Larry Hagman's Liver]

RPI is one metric, correct. So lets see here, they are going to consider RPI, and they are going to break down the wins and losses and Quads by the RPI. I'd say that makes it a pretty important metric. Hmmmmm.

I have never Quad 1 wins are the end all be all, and I challenge you to find where I said that. What they are, are very important starting points to start a discussion about every team. When it comes to Nebraska that those numbers are terrible. I can't find a bubble team listed ahead of Nebraska or projected 10/11 seed (according to Bracketwag) who's numbers are worse (and I threw in OU since they are skidding but listed as a 9 as of today, for all the below).

I can't find a bubble team or projected 10/11 seed best road win worse than Nebraska's is with Nebraska at 109 (Wisconsin).

I can't find a bubble team or projected 10/11 seed who's Strength of Schedule is as low as Nebraska's at 96.

I can only find 2 bubble teams or projected 10/11 seeds who's Strength of Record is worse than Nebraska's at 59. Oh and those two are within 7 spots.

I can find only 1 bubble team or projected 10/11 seeds who ranks behind Nebraska in ESPN's Power Index, and that's Providence 9 spots back.

I can only find 4 bubble teams or projected 10/11 seeds who rank behind Nebraska in Kenpom. 3 of the 4 are within 7 spots, and one is 15 spots back.

I can only find one bubble team (Oklahoma State listed in the first four out) listed ahead of Nebraska, with a worse RPI.

Nebraska has beaten 1 team that is currently projected (and we now will be in the dance) which is likely the only one. It remains to be seen how the rest of the teams do, but Nebraska with 1 will be towards the bottom.

Great breakdown. A sobering read and wish it weren't the truth, but I appreciate the objective analysis. Now I will go back to wishing beyond all logical reasoning that NU somehow sneaks in through the back door.

 

[newAD]

Great breakdown. A sobering read and wish it weren't the truth, but I appreciate the objective analysis. Now I will go back to wishing beyond all logical reasoning that NU somehow sneaks in through the back door.

Right there with you. Here's to killing the liver if they actually make it, let alone win a game!

 

[chicolby]

Yes, you got me there, I would be so pissed that the team I have been watching and listening to on the radio for decades, dying to watch them get one lousy tournament victory got an unexpected ticket to the dance! Right. That's why I am keeping my schedule open to possibly go to Dayton.

Oh again, being objective when looking at facts and criteria does not make someone negative. See my prior post.

Why would you keep your schedule open? You said there is no chance.

 

[big red22]

teamrankings.com we sit at #67 in their metrics

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other/

Crazy they also think we have an 80.8 chance to make the tournament. Odd how that works. Maybe they think SOR means a lot more than you die hard basketball fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/nebraska-cornhuskers/bracketology

 

[hddude55]

No significant non-conference wins really put them behind the 8-ball in a year when conference is down. As long as Miles as been here, I would guess that weak schedule had his blessing.

ASU has been bad in conference but beating KU on the road and running Xavier out of the gym on the way to an undefeated non-conference schedule probably gets them in. This is the system, like it or not.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

No chance... but I can only hope for the best. All accounts look like it's an NIT year.

 

[jimbosc]

and

And the guy in the cowboy hat just left town.......

 

[jimbosc]

NIT for sure - probably a decent seed too. Might get home games the first few rounds.

 

[Harry Caray]

teamrankings.com we sit at #67 in their metrics

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/ranking/predictive-by-other/

Crazy they also think we have an 80.8 chance to make the tournament. Odd how that works. Maybe they think SOR means a lot more than you die hard basketball fans.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/nebraska-cornhuskers/bracketology

These odds will change quite a bit during the conference tournaments. We pretty much need all of these teams to lose early in their conference tournaments:

Texas
Baylor
Alabama
Louisville
Syracuse
Kansas State
UCLA
USC
Arizona State
Marquette
Notre Dame
Providence
Boise State
Oklahoma State
BYU (could steal a bid tonight)

 

[Husker Sledge]

We're more than likely NIT bound. It's really gonna suck this year knowing that we're better than A LOT of NCAA tournament teams. Ugh.

 

[huskerbaseball13]

These odds will change quite a bit during the conference tournaments. We pretty much need all of these teams to lose early in their conference tournaments:

Texas
Baylor
Alabama
Louisville
Syracuse
Kansas State
UCLA
USC
Arizona State
Marquette
Notre Dame
Providence
Boise State
Oklahoma State
BYU (could steal a bid tonight)

Yep. We went 4-9 this year against top 100 RPI teams. I'm not saying we have zero chance to make it, there is always surprises come selection Sunday. But, we just didn't fair very well against good teams. Some of that was because they fell early in the year when we were playing mediocre basketball, some of that is because we were unlucky that we did not get some of those teams at home, and some of that is because we just couldn't close out in the final minutes against some good teams. It sucks because we probably are better than some of the teams on the bubble deemed ahead of us but our resume just doesn't give us much pull.

 

[snootalope]

I think this thread needs one more slim to none reference... we’re not getting in

 

[big red22]

Yep. We went 4-9 this year against top 100 RPI teams. I'm not saying we have zero chance to make it, there is always surprises come selection Sunday. But, we just didn't fair very well against good teams. Some of that was because they fell early in the year when we were playing mediocre basketball, some of that is because we were unlucky that we did not get some of those teams at home, and some of that is because we just couldn't close out in the final minutes against some good teams. It sucks because we probably are better than some of the teams on the bubble deemed ahead of us but our resume just doesn't give us much pull.

According to the RPI... It is not even remotely similar in every other metric. I could repost the thread that has already stated this, but hell man if you just click the "teamrankings.com" link from the response you quoted you will see we are 9-3 vs 51-100... That is quite a big difference than 4-9

 

[husker2612]

Seems most experts say very slim but for some reason my gut feel is they will make it in.

I think it is better than what the "experts" are giving us. According to them it is less than 1%. Remember, when in doubt the media will ALWAYS go against Nebraska. Don't listen to them. Our loss to Michigan in the tourney shouldn't hurt us at all that much. Before that loss most bracketology sites had us as a 65% chance to get in. I would say right now we are a 50/50. I wouldn't say Neb is any better or worse than any of the other bubble teams.

 

[newAD]

Why would you keep your schedule open? You said there is no chance.

Why do I buy Powerball tickets when it gets over $200-300 million? Do I really think I'm going to win?

 

[huskerbaseball13]

According to the RPI... It is not even remotely similar in every other metric. I could repost the thread that has already stated this, but hell man if you just click the "teamrankings.com" link from the response you quoted you will see we are 9-3 vs 51-100... That is quite a big difference than 4-9

As I said on HHC, this is true...but I'm afraid the committee probably has no clue what teamrankings is and even if they did they likely won't utilize this websites metrics.

 

[chicolby]

Why do I buy Powerball tickets when it gets over $200-300 million? Do I really think I'm going to win?

Not sure I can help you out with that answer.

So you're saying Nebraska has a shot???

 

[newAD]

Not sure I can help you out with that answer.

So you're saying Nebraska has a shot???

Nebraska has zero shot IMO iF the committee stays true to the criteria the have listed. That is what I have based my opinion on. It is NOT debatable. I don’t necessarily like the criteria, but I have looked at it just to understand the rules.

If Nebraska makes it in, then IMO the committee will have gone against what the NCAA has said they are going to consider for selection criteria. There will be a lot of criticism sent their way, rightfully so, and will have a lot of explaining to do. They have put the criteria on paper, and Nebraska does not sit well as I have pointed out in comparison to other schools.

We are however talking about a group of people in a closed room. Much like a jury in court, you never know for sure what they are going to decide.

If you hope that the committee is going to select Nebraska, then you are hoping the committee damages their own credibility by going against their own set criteria. The committee MAY want to put Nebraska in, but will their egos prevent them because they don’t want to have to explain themselves and face the criticism because they will have gone against almost all the numbers. Ego is a powerful thing, and I think the committee has painted themselves into a corner and even if they want to, they just won’t pick Nebraska, because there’d be egg all over their faces.

 

[big red22]

Nebraska has zero shot IMO iF the committee stays true to the criteria the have listed. That is what I have based my opinion on. It is NOT debatable. I don’t necessarily like the criteria, but I have looked at it just to understand the rules.

If Nebraska makes it in, then IMO the committee will have gone against what the NCAA has said they are going to consider for selection criteria. There will be a lot of criticism sent their way, rightfully so, and will have a lot of explaining to do. They have put the criteria on paper, and Nebraska does not sit well as I have pointed out in comparison to other schools.

We are however talking about a group of people in a closed room. Much like a jury in court, you never know for sure what they are going to decide.

If you hope that the committee is going to select Nebraska, then you are hoping the committee damages their own credibility by going against their own set criteria. The committee MAY want to put Nebraska in, but will their egos prevent them because they don’t want to have to explain themselves and face the criticism because they will have gone against almost all the numbers. Ego is a powerful thing, and I think the committee has painted themselves into a corner and even if they want to, they just won’t pick Nebraska, because there’d be egg all over their faces.

I sure would like to know where you get your information from. I have never heard the NCAA say that the RPI quadrants are the only standard. Nebraska looks good in almost every other metric. They may be lower ranked like in team rankings, but they are also showing nine and three against teams that are 51-100. That's a hell of a lot different than 4 - 9 like RPI says. So you can make your argument but I want you to show me some of your information that you think you know in writing and then I will maybe understand you a little more

Not from your mouth onto a post, but directly from the NCAA

 

[chicolby]

Nebraska has zero shot IMO iF the committee stays true to the criteria the have listed. That is what I have based my opinion on. It is NOT debatable. I don’t necessarily like the criteria, but I have looked at it just to understand the rules.

If Nebraska makes it in, then IMO the committee will have gone against what the NCAA has said they are going to consider for selection criteria. There will be a lot of criticism sent their way, rightfully so, and will have a lot of explaining to do. They have put the criteria on paper, and Nebraska does not sit well as I have pointed out in comparison to other schools.

We are however talking about a group of people in a closed room. Much like a jury in court, you never know for sure what they are going to decide.

If you hope that the committee is going to select Nebraska, then you are hoping the committee damages their own credibility by going against their own set criteria. The committee MAY want to put Nebraska in, but will their egos prevent them because they don’t want to have to explain themselves and face the criticism because they will have gone against almost all the numbers. Ego is a powerful thing, and I think the committee has painted themselves into a corner and even if they want to, they just won’t pick Nebraska, because there’d be egg all over their faces.

They haven’t painted themselves in a corner. They simply stated how they will be looking at different types of games. They also did not eliminate the eye test. If they had painted themselves in a corner, there would be no need to have a committee. Certainly the lack of quad one wins will be used against Nebraska during discussions. I believe the argument for Nebraska will require some committee members to take a leap of faith.

My optimism lies in the fact that this is not a simple formula. If it was stated with fact that a team with fewer quad one wins is out, I’d have no problem agreeing with you. And once again, I’ll openly admit that I think the odds are not high, but I believe there is still a chance.

 

[chicolby]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...sy-wins-matter/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueThis is a nice read from the commissioner himself.

 

[big red22]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...sy-wins-matter/amp/?__twitter_impression=trueThis is a nice read from the commissioner himself.

^^^ Broken link