What B1G team do you root the most against.
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Ahhh by any chance that didn't have to do with a certain person that went with you to the tournment which you sat next to does it.
This post was edited on 3/26 4:55 PM by scarletred
I know what you're getting at & we had a great time. HTO represented the HUSKERS admirably. I've never seen him not do that when we've been together.Originally posted by scarletred:
Ahhh by any chance that didn't have to do with a certain person that went with you to the tournment which you sat next to does it.
This post was edited on 3/26 4:55 PM by scarletred
This post was edited on 3/26 6:18 PM by sparky62
Originally posted by timnsun:
I'm gonna say Minnesota, but primarily because I live here in Minnesota and am tired of the locals thumping their chests these last two years.
After this coming season my answer may change as soon as we set things right once again.
It's funny, I've been here 5 years now and they didn't make a peep the first 3 years...
Have relatives that live in Minnesota, and they are quite proud of their back to back wins against Nebraska it's been quite accomplishment for them of course you have to remember growing up with them and beating them 84-13 and winning 16 consecutive times they played threw out our life time and beating them no less then 24 points I can see why you are getting the raising from the locals just like my cousins giveing back to me.
Considering that Minnesota still has a series edge vs Nebraska and had a dominant football program into the 1960's I would not get too impressed with yourselves for pounding those hapless Gopher teams of the 70s and '80s.
I was praying that the 2003 Gopher Team with Maroney and Barber would get a shot a soft Bill C. Nebraska team in San Antonio to run for 500 yards, but our awful fan base again doomed us to a lesser bowl. (U of M 31, Oregon 30 El Paso Sun bowl) We were better than Michigan State and needed some payback for 83-14, 56-7, ect.
Keep in mind that Nebraska poured massive resources into football for years while the do gooder, liberal minded U of M administration stewed in embarrassment as their Ivy League aspirations were upstaged by the powerful football teams that won National Championships. These eggheads were fully committed to destroying their own football program and they had success.
The liberal east coast elitist Minnesota Administration defunded and starved Minnesota Football for years. They let no borderline players into school, they let the historic 65,000 1923 football stadium decay, then used its decay for an excuse for tearing it down and becoming a third class citizen in a big plastic toilet off campus. Later they paid the staff nothing, and than choked off football funding.
The band could not even attend road games at all, even 4 hours away in Madison or Iowa City. Football was on par with women's knitting or soccer and that is the way the Administration wanted itl Lou Holtz was good enough to save the program, but the evil Administration drove him off.
This taint upon the U of Minn. football program lasted from the mid 60's well into the Mason years of 2000-2006. Being a pioneer in accepting southern players staved this off for a while but by 1970 it was all over. The state politicians, even the liberal democrats still tried to support football, but the problem is that no U of M President ever stepped up and asked for support or even pretended to advocate for football and a stadium until the mid 2000's when Bob Bruinick changed the equation. Malcom Moos, Kenneth Keller Nils Hasselmo, and a parade of liberal elitists who missed the Ivy League cut did their best to end Big Ten success at Minnesota.
The U of M elitists were trying to follow the U of Chicago playbook and get rid of sports. They did manage to destroy the football program for about 35 years, but thanks to Glen Mason, the former President Bob Bruinick who built TCF Bank Stadium, the current President who authorized the 190M training center, and Jerry Kill those days are over.
Glen Mason was the first coach to publicly state what everyone knew, the Metrodome was garbage and killed Gopher football. After he stepped up the Vikings finally started raise hell. Next time you drive past downtown Minneapolis you will see the new stadium rising to the level of a 35 story building that resulted from that topic being raised.
If Minnesota ta can keep the top few players in the sate, several of whom in the past went to Nebraska , Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame and Miami, and keep bringing in National talent, Minnesota with close to 6 million residents and one D1 program will be OK.
Nebraska on the other hand, with oversigning, a budget for 140 Scholarship players, Big 8 Academic Standards, and blind eyes to any L. Phillips type conduct all relics of the past, I do not see how Nebraska can magically return to the past glories absent all those built in advantages. (edit) not to be too harsh but I was a fan of many of those Nebraska Teams, greatly respect T.O, and understand that the Texas abuses of the rest of the Big 12/ SWC, violation of the spirit of NCAA completion trump anything NU ever did. I find it amusing that SMU paid the price for doing exactly what Texas did every year for 50 years.
Minnesota has clawed its way back with very few of those advantages, and now has some new advantages that are here to stay. Minnesota is the best positioned team in the Big Ten West, for prolonged football success along with Nebraska. Iowa and Northwestern have dropped back to their historical places, and Wisconsin will go there soon with Barry retiring. Purdue was smoke and mirrors with Joe Tiller and I will never understand why Illinois cannot recruit.
Unless MN screws it up again, it will be Minnesota, Nebraska, and probably Wisconsin (Barry or no Barry) for the next 15 years.
This post was edited on 3/27 12:26 AM by PogeyKahn
yes the metrodome was crap! next
I'm gonna say Minnesota, but primarily because I live here in Minnesota and am tired of the locals thumping their chests these last two years.
After this coming season my answer may change as soon as we set things right once again.
It's funny, I've been here 5 years now and they didn't make a peep the first 3 years...
Have relatives that live in Minnesota, and they are quite proud of their back to back wins against Nebraska it's been quite accomplishment for them of course you have to remember growing up with them and beating them 84-13 and winning 16 consecutive times they played threw out our life time and beating them no less then 24 points I can see why you are getting the raising from the locals just like my cousins giveing back to me.
Considering that Minnesota still has a series edge vs Nebraska and had a dominant football program into the 1960's I would not get too impressed with yourselves for pounding those hapless Gopher teams of the 70s and '80s.
I was praying that the 2003 Gopher Team with Maroney and Barber would get a shot a soft Bill C. Nebraska team in San Antonio to run for 500 yards, but our awful fan base again doomed us to a lesser bowl. (U of M 31, Oregon 30 El Paso Sun bowl) We were better than Michigan State and needed some payback for 83-14, 56-7, ect.
Keep in mind that Nebraska poured massive resources into football for years while the do gooder, liberal minded U of M administration stewed in embarrassment as their Ivy League aspirations were upstaged by the powerful football teams that won National Championships. These eggheads were fully committed to destroying their own football program and they had success.
The liberal east coast elitist Minnesota Administration defunded and starved Minnesota Football for years. They let no borderline players into school, they let the historic 65,000 1923 football stadium decay, then used its decay for an excuse for tearing it down and becoming a third class citizen in a big plastic toilet off campus. Later they paid the staff nothing, and than choked off football funding.
The band could not even attend road games at all, even 4 hours away in Madison or Iowa City. Football was on par with women's knitting or soccer and that is the way the Administration wanted itl Lou Holtz was good enough to save the program, but the evil Administration drove him off.
This taint upon the U of Minn. football program lasted from the mid 60's well into the Mason years of 2000-2006. Being a pioneer in accepting southern players staved this off for a while but by 1970 it was all over. The state politicians, even the liberal democrats still tried to support football, but the problem is that no U of M President ever stepped up and asked for support or even pretended to advocate for football and a stadium until the mid 2000's when Bob Bruinick changed the equation. Malcom Moos, Kenneth Keller Nils Hasselmo, and a parade of liberal elitists who missed the Ivy League cut did their best to end Big Ten success at Minnesota.
The U of M elitists were trying to follow the U of Chicago playbook and get rid of sports. They did manage to destroy the football program for about 35 years, but thanks to Glen Mason, the former President Bob Bruinick who built TCF Bank Stadium, the current President who authorized the 190M training center, and Jerry Kill those days are over.
Glen Mason was the first coach to publicly state what everyone knew, the Metrodome was garbage and killed Gopher football. After he stepped up the Vikings finally started raise hell. Next time you drive past downtown Minneapolis you will see the new stadium rising to the level of a 35 story building that resulted from that topic being raised.
If Minnesota ta can keep the top few players in the sate, several of whom in the past went to Nebraska , Iowa, Wisconsin, Notre Dame and Miami, and keep bringing in National talent, Minnesota with close to 6 million residents and one D1 program will be OK.
Nebraska on the other hand, with oversigning, a budget for 140 Scholarship players, Big 8 Academic Standards, and blind eyes to any L. Phillips type conduct all relics of the past, I do not see how Nebraska can magically return to the past glories absent all those built in advantages. (edit) not to be too harsh but I was a fan of many of those Nebraska Teams, greatly respect T.O, and understand that the Texas abuses of the rest of the Big 12/ SWC, violation of the spirit of NCAA completion trump anything NU ever did. I find it amusing that SMU paid the price for doing exactly what Texas did every year for 50 years.
Minnesota has clawed its way back with very few of those advantages, and now has some new advantages that are here to stay. Minnesota is the best positioned team in the Big Ten West, for prolonged football success along with Nebraska. Iowa and Northwestern have dropped back to their historical places, and Wisconsin will go there soon with Barry retiring. Purdue was smoke and mirrors with Joe Tiller and I will never understand why Illinois cannot recruit.
Unless MN screws it up again, it will be Minnesota, Nebraska, and probably Wisconsin (Barry or no Barry) for the next 15 years.
This post was edited on 3/27 12:26 AM by PogeyKahn
yes the metrodome was crap! next
In other words tOSU is head and shoulders better than your team so you hate them. I understand. Buckeye fans embrace your hatred and ignorance. It is a great compliment to our football program.
Classic. "I don't like fans because they're trashy and insulting. Now let me give a trashy list of insults about them." Lol. Yes, there are a small portion of trashy fans who like OSU. A small portion that can seem loud at times.
just as your post shows the same among a small portion of Husker fans.
PogeyKahn, Don't you also think the Vikings also some effect on Gopher football? The success of the Vikings also hurt Minnesota when they shared the MetroDome, that what you mentioned also in your words didn't help the success of the Minnesota football program.
I agree they could be the awoken sleeping giant again in the conference but Kill will have to recruit better in the furure to make this possible..
Looking forward to the next Minnesota game this year which in my opinion will be our toughest road game this season.
This post was edited on 3/29 1:18 PM by scarletred
I agree they could be the awoken sleeping giant again in the conference but Kill will have to recruit better in the furure to make this possible..
Looking forward to the next Minnesota game this year which in my opinion will be our toughest road game this season.
This post was edited on 3/29 1:18 PM by scarletred
Yes, Sarletred the Vikings had a great deal to do with the attendance dropping in the '60ss. Selling 48,000 tickets rather than 65,000 wasn't the real problem, the elitist Central Administration was the real problem that just about killed the program.
Had the administration not tried to choke off most support for the program by not paying assistant coaches, cutting the football budget to the bone, making admission very tough, and of all things letting one of the larger stadiums in the Conference until the 60s decay and fall down the program could have risen up quickly like Iowa, Illinois and MSU did in the early 80s. This stadium was one of the top four stadiums in the conference is historic and architectural significance and they just let it rot away, when used their negligence as an excuse for moving into a big plastic dump downtown.
From 1967 when Minnesota shared the Championship with Indiana, no school could compete with Ohio State and Michigan until Hayden Fry revived Iowa after 20 plus years of rotten football. The scholarship limits had quite a bit to do with that change. Due to all the damage the Administration heaped on Football at Minnesota, that program had little change of being one of the programs that rose up.
Only a coach like Lou Holtz had what it took to fix things, and once he saw what a rat he was dealing with in President Kenneth Keller, Holtz turned down a big contract and fled to Notre Dame. Apparently he was willing to take a new contract and stay until he realized the Administration was untrustworthy, after discovering some more weasel like actions after he had agreed in principle with the AD who was then undermined by Keller.
Had the administration not tried to choke off most support for the program by not paying assistant coaches, cutting the football budget to the bone, making admission very tough, and of all things letting one of the larger stadiums in the Conference until the 60s decay and fall down the program could have risen up quickly like Iowa, Illinois and MSU did in the early 80s. This stadium was one of the top four stadiums in the conference is historic and architectural significance and they just let it rot away, when used their negligence as an excuse for moving into a big plastic dump downtown.
From 1967 when Minnesota shared the Championship with Indiana, no school could compete with Ohio State and Michigan until Hayden Fry revived Iowa after 20 plus years of rotten football. The scholarship limits had quite a bit to do with that change. Due to all the damage the Administration heaped on Football at Minnesota, that program had little change of being one of the programs that rose up.
Only a coach like Lou Holtz had what it took to fix things, and once he saw what a rat he was dealing with in President Kenneth Keller, Holtz turned down a big contract and fled to Notre Dame. Apparently he was willing to take a new contract and stay until he realized the Administration was untrustworthy, after discovering some more weasel like actions after he had agreed in principle with the AD who was then undermined by Keller.
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