Also reread some articles about him and his family. We should all be decent to this decent person. He didn't hire himself. And he seems to be maintaining his decorum during what must be an awfully hard time for him and his family.
Watched MR's entire Press Conference just now....
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I suspect he under estimated the mess Bo left and the degree the fishbowl in Nebraska would impact him - but crapping the bed 2x in games you had won......used up most of the goodwill he earned before the season
He likes and respects Nebraska and could move up to some admin position somewhere in the school if he didn't want to retire or get fired. Those types of move have happened a few times at various places over the last three decades that I have been following the sport.
I don't blame MR at all. He's just trying to do his best with what he's got. I do blame Eichorst for everything though. He went after a coach who is close to retiring and never really won at any of his coaching stops, excluding CFL. If we would have hired an up and comer (Memphis head coach would be my first choice) it would be acceptable to have some of these slip ups but not with a HC with 30 plus years experience
You know these are very good points. Before a mob is formed to lynch Mike Riley, Danny Langsdorf, Mark Banker, and the rest we do need to look at the man who started all of this and that's Mr. Eichorst. As I learn more about SE, sounds like Barry Alvarez has had a lot of influence on him including the possibility that Alvarez planted the Riley bug in his ear. I honestly think these are all hard working, well meaning folks, but I'm not sure about their coaching acumen in terms of producing championship caliber teams. It's unfortunate because I'm sure they want to win more than we will ever know. The bottom line is coaches and AD's are graded on wins and losses not on how good of people they are. It's just unfortunate that they aren't having success.
[QUOTE="OmahaSker, post: 947858, member: 24564"]I don't blame MR at all. He's just trying to do his best with what he's got. I do blame Eichorst for everything though. He went after a coach who is close to retiring and never really won at any of his coaching stops, excluding CFL. If we would have hired an up and comer (Memphis head coach would be my first choice) it would be acceptable to have some of these slip ups but not with a HC with 30 plus years experience[/QUOTE]
Clock and game management is terrible with this staff. Got to put it all on them. Eich is public enemy #1 though. That freakin guy...
Clock and game management is terrible with this staff. Got to put it all on them. Eich is public enemy #1 though. That freakin guy...
Eichorst should take the brunt of the criticism. He made a right move in getting rid of Bo the cancer, but his choice of replacements looks to be poor at best. That being said, Riley is really a nice guy who shouldn't have to endure personal attacks. Go ahead and criticise his game management and choice of assistants, but I despise the personal insults.
I'm guessing SE didn't make the move without some.powerful people influencing it. You don't make that move without it.
His choice came out of left field...this is part of the reason why the fans aren't very patient at this point.
He is Barry Collier, part II, Loves being here. Great human being! Can't seem to get it done as a coach. Collier is a great AD however. I think Riley should become AD after Eichorst is fired when Harvey's predecessor sees what a lost cause this guy is.
They don't have time to review the choice in depth. They have to trust SE to make the call. And why should they take the responsibility anyway-that's SE's job.
And my point was not to trash MR the way we have trashed other coaches that have struggled here. I'm sure he's trying the best he can.
Yep, I do somewhat agree. Riley was offered this job he didn't come banging the door down. He was offered triple what he was making and I do honestly believe he though he could come in here and turn this around. I think he is starting to realize he is in way over his head. This is a completely different level at Nebraska. Being nice wont get you win and wont keep your job. He doesn't deserve the verbal bashing he is getting by many.
Perfect world he would realize he is in over his head and step down at the end of the year. I doubt he needs or wants this headache.
He is NOT over his head. He's won a CFL championship and coached in the NFL with a terrible GM that game him Ryan Leaf as his starting QB. Riley is MUCH > Pelini or Callahan and both of those clowns came within whiskers of winning the B12 at least one year each. WE'RE PLAYING EXTREMELY SHORT HANDED ON DEFENSE AND IT COST US THE GAME SATURDAY. When VV, Newby and Weber all got hurt, Wisconsin starting moving the ball at will. Riley will get it going but with all the injuries this year it is just IDIOCY to be making any judgements now. Our depth and injury situation is what it is and there is NOTHING Riley or Banker can do about it this year. People need to just cool it and be patient. Three isn't a coach alive that could piece the depth chart together on defense any better than these guys have to this point. We were going to be screwed if we had ONE key injury on D I thought let alone the 7 or 8 we've had.
Then the question is what is the reason for so many injuries? There are way to many to chalk it up to just horrid luck.
The injuries don't seem to be outliers as much as people say. We lost Burkhead and Martinez and most of our offensive line and still won 9 in previous years. (Also receivers e.g. Turner, DB's e.g. Charles, backers Anderson and others, and DL Williams.)
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- SH## happens. You trying to blame Riley and his staff for the injuries? Good Lord I've heard it all now. High ankles sprains, fractured feet, pulled groins, pulled hammies, shoulder stingers.....all the coach's fault. The players are doing virtually the same program that USC is using and you don't hear anything about injuries there. Our offensive players other than DPE have stayed amazingly healthy until Gates rolled his ankle Saturday. Some years you just have bad luck with injuries and clearly this is our year for that.
It seems 1 coach can have 18 years experience and another can have 1 years experience 18 times. That's Riley. No matter what excuse Dingle throws out there, he's in over his head.
Let's see now which recycled TROLL likes to call me Dingle all the time? Go crawl back under your bridge. Excuses my ass. Reasons. You're an idiot if you think your buddy Bo would have done better with the hand he left for Riley.
Been posting here for years, count has been reset. Bo isn't my buddy but history shows he'd done much better. Bo's defenses sucked against the run but were great against the pass. We haven't played a strong rushing team yet. We are dead effin last against the pass. That is on Banker. We made Stave look good, that's hard to do. Cook is going to kill us.
With the roster "your buddy" Bo left us and all the injuries we have EVERY QB is going to give us fits. If you think Bo would have been "great" against the pass this year with all these injuries, you're delusional. Banderas won't be healthy all year nor will Valentine. MRI may not be able to come back at all and if he does, he won't be near 100%. Williams will be weak in at least one arm IF he makes it back. Who knows when Maurice will be back or how well Freedom recovers from his knee surgery. We're screwed and it is NOT Riley or Banker's fault. Bo would have not have fared any better IMO with Riley has had to deal with.
Why don't you move on over to "your buddy's" board over at Youngstown. Your rooting for Riley and the Huskers to fail is getting old. Never ceases to amaze me how you guys cling to that nut job.
Good coaches do not have teams that lead the nation in penalties. Good coaches adapt their game plans to the players they have available to give them the greatest chance at success. Good coaches have good clock management. Riley is 62 years old so when is he going to learn this skill? All this talk about Mike being a good recruiter. Then why are the Beavers the youngest team in the Pac 12?
Why do you always have to include something about Bo? You make him out to be the boogie man. He's a long way away in Youngstown. When Mike is shown the door after maintaining a sub .500 record you guys are going to scream, "Bo's fault"
29-33 his last 5 years in Corvallis plus the 2-4 record at Nebraska = .456 That's not good coaching
Bo is responsible for out depth chart right now at LBer and DE and that is killing us that is why I bring him up. Teams that play the LARGE number of backups, freshmen and walkons some of which have never played a snap of D-1 football lead the nation in penalties. Teams that are playing opponents that have more talent than them also tend to commit more penalties and make no mistake our defense is challenged talent wise. That's TWO reasons for the number of penalties.
There are players injured and some depth issues...but a lot of the issues are schematic with Banker...which is problem that depth and injuries won't fix. I also think that the corners play with poor technique.
I understand you are doing your best to defend this staff against a bunch of haters...and that is cool, but you can't sincerely think this coaching staff is currently doing a good job coaching. That doesn't mean this staff can't turn it around...it just means right now-through 6 games, they are coaching below expectations. I don't think that is an unfair assessment, do you?
Conveniently you didn't mention the penalties or clock/game management...
I agree that there have been some things I would like to see done differently, but I don't know how you hardly even practice given the injury situation. When Banderas did play he hadn't practice ALL week. We are running things trying to limit to some degree the pressure on our linebackers. Our D line other than Collins isn't holding up its end of the bargain and that is where it all starts. I knew we had talent issues at DE but now with the injuries there and at linebacker we are in trouble. We can talk about DB technique and scheme, but the bottomline is that if you're front 7 is struggling, and they are, you're in trouble. With over half the starters either out or playing hurt, I don't know what people expect.
So far I haven't really seen any personal insults against MR. I have seen plenty of criticism of his coaching and staffing decisions, and suggestions that he won't work out long term. I don't think anyone has suggested that he isn't a decent fellow. I think his job security will be toast if the program doesn't show some W-L improvement next year.
Good coaches usually have a long track record in their own system.
I know we throw out "good coaches mold to their talent", but to what degree. And in what cases, at blue bloods or at schools where they are going to have 10 years to prove themselves? It seems to me, that most coaches go to a school, run some bastardized version of their system and some old plays their players know, and just recruit like hell for guys that fit their system for years 2 and 3. If they just ran the same old system, there'd have been no need to fire the old coach.
I don't know that there is too many examples of top flight coaches, like say Saban, being a pro style guy, just up and running a spread because his guys could. I guess what I'm saying is, coaches don't dump their systems, there are elements or concepts that they can incorporate to help the players transition from an old system, but they really don't flex their own philosophy too much.
Line penalties will happen a lot when a system changes over. They aren't used to the snap count yet and we aren't clapping anymore. I hated the clapping by the way.
We lead the country in penalties... that is unacceptable.
I think these are just excuses. Yes, injuries and young talent are going to effect the number of penalties, but I think good coaching can overcome it. You have bought into Mike Riley. You have high hopes for him and think he will magically become something he has not been for a long time. That is if he ever was a really good coach. I have seen this movie before with Mike and don't believe it will end well. Even in his best years at Oregon State he lost games that the Beavers had no business losing to. I don't know Mike, but I bet he is a very nice man. 6 games at Nebraska plus a lifetime of his work have convinced me that he was an odd hire and just doesn't fit well in Lincoln. This doesn't make me happy. I love Nebraska football. I spend a lot of money to get back to a game every year or so.
So here is the question. You like to bring up Bo so I will bring him up. Are you willing to give Mike seven years to turn Nebraska around? You will happily accept 3-5 years of mediocrity for one Exceptional season in say 2020?
He crapped the bed in 3 of the four losses.
The only loss that he didn't shit the bed....Miami. NU was just flat all day. Great comeback but then the QB shit the bed with a 1st down pass in OT....ballgame.
Most of these losses are on the coaching and coaches and the head guy has to be the fall guy. The QB play has been poor all year. That is the other problem but totally a different thread.
People will continue to blame Bo no matter what. It's very much the same way Obama blamed Bush. We should have at least 2 more wins. You can't blame that on Bo.
Dingle you are the one obsessed with BO not me. I have no problem with him being fired. I've never rooted for the Huskers to fail. I was baffled by the hiring of a .500 coach and HIS performance has done nothing to eliminate my concerns.
The fact that YOU bring him up every time someone expresses concerns pretty much proves you have noting to offer to the discussions.
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