was found not guilty of sexual assault.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...r-quintez-cephus-back-lawyers-say/1942557001/
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was found not guilty of sexual assault.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...r-quintez-cephus-back-lawyers-say/1942557001/
Not guilty is not guilty. I'd be suing the school too at this point.They are doing their due diligence. Not guilty does not mean the alleged crime or a version of the crime didn’t happen.
Good to see their bar is set higher than “not guilty”
OJ was also found not guilty. Not sure if I would let OJ back if he could still play.
Not guilty is not guilty. I'd be suing the school too at this point.
does title ix have a lower threshold fir the uni?
wouldnt surprise me.
does wiscy thinks he’ll leave right away?
id want to get the f out of there to start over.
from what I've read about the case... I don't think they could meet a preponderance of the evidence standard either. The kid took the stand and gave his side of the story and the jury only took about 30 minutes to clear him. Either way, it's debatable and Wisky will want this to drag out so the kid has to go somewhere elseDoesn’t matter what the verdict in a court of law is, where the standard is “beyond a reasonable doubt”. In Title IX investigations the standard is a “preponderance of the evidence”.
Preponderance of the Evidence. Information that would persuade a reasonable person that a proposition is more probably true than not true. It is a lower standard of proof than “clear and convincing evidence”.
This is a lower standard than “beyond a reasonable doubt”. When it comes to Title IX sexual discrimination, sexual harassment or sexual assault investigations it does not matter what the verdict was in the court proceedings. In fact with Title IX there does not have to have been any charges filed or a court case.
Here is the link to UW’s Title IX page:
https://compliance.wisc.edu/titleix/
Or what if the male student didn't do anything wrong which is 99% more likely than your scenario. I knew some real jackasses in college but never met anyone that would have drugged and raped multiple women.Schools are in a tough spot. Let's say you're a school administrator, and a male student has been accused of drugging and raping women on campus. In a fair world, maybe you could take no action until the matter is resolved in the legal system. After all he is innocent until proven guilty. But are you going to risk the safety of the women on campus while a potential serial rapist lives among them? Especially when the legal system can take years to resolve the matter? Even then, with plea bargains, prosecution mistakes, etc. the verdict may not be 100% reliable from an administrative point of view.
The school has little choice but to suspend the male student, or at a minimum, get them off campus with remote or online classes. Let the legal system work, and then make a final decision.
If that's too harsh for you, imagine it was a male teacher accused of molesting children at a preschool. Do you leave them on staff, performing their normal work duties, until the legal system plays out? Even if that takes three years? Even if every parent pulls their child out of school, leaving your reputation destroyed, and your business bankrupt?
Sometimes "innocent until proven guilty" isn't a practical standard when it comes to the person's involvement in activities at your school or place of employment.
When my son was a freshman he went out of town for a weekend early in the school year. He came home Sunday to an email he received Friday late and a letter under his dorm room door. The letter said he had been accused of sexual harassment, assault, and stalking. The letter gave no information/details of what he had actually done or who had accused him. It did say he had a meeting with the Dean in 2 days and his housing would be cancelled in 3 days. While reading the letter there was a knock on the door and a very pissed off person from housing as the letter also said he had to immediately move to a different dorm across campus.He was told to grab one weeks worth of clothes, his school work and get out, bedding would be provided at the new room.
I drove to town and got him into a hotel with me and tried to research what was going on as he had no clue. We received no details until we met with the Dean. Essentially a girl that had a crush on him claimed he assaulted her when they were having a "dance contest" in a dorm room where he twerked in front of her and came into contact with her. She claimed he harassed her by making sexual jokes in mixed company. His RA added to the report that he stalked her because he had asked for her phone number a couple of times and asked her how a date had gone when she returned to the floor. All of the above were done within groups of 5 to 10 other students but he had been singled out.
After meeting with the Dean he could tell this was not a real title IX case and would most likely blow over as no real harm was done but he had to do his investigation and my son would remain kicked out of his dorm room during the investigation. Within a week the Dean told us it was not going anywhere but he still had people to talk to and to be patient. It turned out the accuser and her roommate were refusing to be interviewed. The accuser just wanted him out of her sight so she wouldn't meet with the Dean and her roommate knew it was all garbage but she didn't want to live in an uncomfortable room for the remainder of the year if she crossed her roommate. My son's best friend convinced the roommate to do the right thing and take the meeting.
This process took 3 months, all the while my son was living in a bare bones room, with none of his possessions (he was restricted from the building he originally lived in) with a potential punishment hanging over his head. Ultimately he was found responsible for violating the student code for harassment (unwelcome statements/jokes) and assault (unwelcome touching when he bumped her in the dance). The RA pulled herself out when asked "could he possibly have wanted a phone number to reach you in the event of an emergency?" and her response was "I don't give my number to male residents" and the Dean admonished her for that. His punishment was a letter in his file and he could not move back to his old room because it would have made the accuser uncomfortable but he was no longer restricted from entering the building.
Ultimately this was about as good a result as we could have hoped for but it derailed his first semester, his grades suffered, and has left him pretty jaded. Based on how this was handled I have gotten very familiar with these types of cases around the country and it is eye opening. You can imagine a high profile athlete it is much much worse.False or misconstrued actions are happening ever week and it is destroying male students academic and often times athletic careers.
There is a great website helpsaveoursons.com that details these types of events and every week there are at least a couple cases that are going to court. Guys are standing up for themselves and suing to be reinstated after they have been found not guilty or not charged in the legal system, and they are winning. I imagine Cephus will have a very strong case against Wisconsin if he pursues it.
That is true but it isn't right. Basically that is saying that the court system ruling doesn't really matter...now anyone can be like "Yeah, he "R'ed" me" and a precedent has been set that the kid accused is gone with the wind.They are doing their due diligence. Not guilty does not mean the alleged crime or a version of the crime didn’t happen.
Good to see their bar is set higher than “not guilty”
When my son was a freshman he went out of town for a weekend early in the school year. He came home Sunday to an email he received Friday late and a letter under his dorm room door. The letter said he had been accused of sexual harassment, assault, and stalking. The letter gave no information/details of what he had actually done or who had accused him. It did say he had a meeting with the Dean in 2 days and his housing would be cancelled in 3 days. While reading the letter there was a knock on the door and a very pissed off person from housing as the letter also said he had to immediately move to a different dorm across campus.He was told to grab one weeks worth of clothes, his school work and get out, bedding would be provided at the new room.
I drove to town and got him into a hotel with me and tried to research what was going on as he had no clue. We received no details until we met with the Dean. Essentially a girl that had a crush on him claimed he assaulted her when they were having a "dance contest" in a dorm room where he twerked in front of her and came into contact with her. She claimed he harassed her by making sexual jokes in mixed company. His RA added to the report that he stalked her because he had asked for her phone number a couple of times and asked her how a date had gone when she returned to the floor. All of the above were done within groups of 5 to 10 other students but he had been singled out.
After meeting with the Dean he could tell this was not a real title IX case and would most likely blow over as no real harm was done but he had to do his investigation and my son would remain kicked out of his dorm room during the investigation. Within a week the Dean told us it was not going anywhere but he still had people to talk to and to be patient. It turned out the accuser and her roommate were refusing to be interviewed. The accuser just wanted him out of her sight so she wouldn't meet with the Dean and her roommate knew it was all garbage but she didn't want to live in an uncomfortable room for the remainder of the year if she crossed her roommate. My son's best friend convinced the roommate to do the right thing and take the meeting.
This process took 3 months, all the while my son was living in a bare bones room, with none of his possessions (he was restricted from the building he originally lived in) with a potential punishment hanging over his head. Ultimately he was found responsible for violating the student code for harassment (unwelcome statements/jokes) and assault (unwelcome touching when he bumped her in the dance). The RA pulled herself out when asked "could he possibly have wanted a phone number to reach you in the event of an emergency?" and her response was "I don't give my number to male residents" and the Dean admonished her for that. His punishment was a letter in his file and he could not move back to his old room because it would have made the accuser uncomfortable but he was no longer restricted from entering the building.
Ultimately this was about as good a result as we could have hoped for but it derailed his first semester, his grades suffered, and has left him pretty jaded. Based on how this was handled I have gotten very familiar with these types of cases around the country and it is eye opening. You can imagine a high profile athlete it is much much worse.False or misconstrued actions are happening ever week and it is destroying male students academic and often times athletic careers.
There is a great website helpsaveoursons.com that details these types of events and every week there are at least a couple cases that are going to court. Guys are standing up for themselves and suing to be reinstated after they have been found not guilty or not charged in the legal system, and they are winning. I imagine Cephus will have a very strong case against Wisconsin if he pursues it.
I'm glad I am out of college and don't have to worry about this stuff.
Girls know the power that they have...
Bar not necessarily higher, but a different bar altogether — that of a university’s student code of conduct. Students who are deemed to have violated university codes of conduct can be punished by a university regardless of how the criminal justice system addresses an issue. Is the not guilty verdict even relevant? Sure, but students are punished every day for code of conduct violations that would never even result in a criminal charge. Ever heard of a student being criminally charged for cheating on exams? His attorneys are making a noisy bluff.They are doing their due diligence. Not guilty does not mean the alleged crime or a version of the crime didn’t happen.
Good to see their bar is set higher than “not guilty”