Ohio State winning the championship was the best example of why a 12 team playoff needed to happen years ago.
Under the 4 team format, Ohio State wouldn't have qualified
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So 2 loss national champs is the best example of why a 12 team playoff was/ is needed?
I could turn that logic right around and say what’s the point of going 13-0 and winning your conference, when you can lose to an unranked opponent and still win a championship. It’s essentially an NFL model where the healthiest team wins and not necessarily the best
What about last year when undefeated Florida State got left out? That should be proof that a 4 team playoff wasn't enough.
If Oregon, Texas, Georgia and Penn St were the final 4 no one would have questioned the results. It is only questioned because Ohio St was healthy and hot for 4 games.
What about Notre Dame? Wouldn't Notre Dame be more deserving than either 2 loss Texas or Penn State?
The playoffs are amazing. November football games mattered immensely for a lot of teams. I personally don't care if they had 2 losses. They were better than anyone whether they were healthy or not. That was a lot of fun and now they're actually great multitude of games to watch rather than just 4. We aren't going back to the old ways. Tantamount to bitching about the weather.
So we complain first that there isn't a playoff system and that BCS is flawed. Then complain that there aren't enough teams in the playoffs. Now we are complaining there are too many teams?
Which is the correct way? All have their merits. Playoffs won't go away, so best to just enjoy. Also imo a conference championship shouldn't get an automatic bye. I'm just a peon though that hopes Nebraska is ready to be at thy big boy table.
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Which is the correct way? All have their merits. Playoffs won't go away, so best to just enjoy. Also imo a conference championship shouldn't get an automatic bye. I'm just a peon though that hopes Nebraska is ready to be at thy big boy table.
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except the team who won it all. Losing to Michigan didn't matter at all let alone immensely.
They weren't better than Michigan on the day they played, they needed a redo against Oregon.
What about a team that has the best recruiting class, beats down a good opponent and is ranked in the top 4 midway through the season? Can they just take the second half of the season off and get placed in the playoff? If it was about getting the "best" teams in, I see no problem.
Best vs deserving
Best vs deserving
Nope, never once complained there wasn't enough teams in the playoff. In fact, 4 teams is just enough. But if you want 12 teams, seed the teams 1-12 and do not give the number 9 and 12 the 3 and 4 seeds. That alone moves Ohio St and Oregon to opposite brackets.
Best vs deserving is a false dichotomy. No one knows who the "best" is until after the games are played.
Been married for little over 2 years...my wife truly understands how much I love football this month, for the first time. I hope our marriage can withstand it, I sure would miss her.
Should use BCS metrics rather than committee. Too much human element to committee. BCS had human element as just a small piece. And then it feels like 6 must be the right number as 4 wasn’t enough and 8 was too many. BCS #1 and #2 get a first round bye. Then seed as normal based off BCS. Perfect
A 2-loss team has just been crowned the national champion. This is the prime example of why the playoff should have remained at 4 teams, at most.
> noooo we can't have a 2 loss team winning it all
> it should've only been Oregon and these three 2-loss teams
pick an angle
No, it was only proof that the selection criteria was flawed. 4 teams was the perfect number. It still (mostly) ensured that the regular season had meaning and it also ensured that no 2-loss or higher team would have a shot at the title (because they didn't deserve it).
I thought it was a pretty entertaining month of football, that's all that matters to me. I don't feel like expanding the playoffs in any way diminished the regular season. Yeah, losing to Michigan ended up being meaningless to OSU, but it didn't feel meaningless at the time. I'm not in favor of further expanding the playoffs, 12 seems pretty good.
I can’t understand the people who think we shouldn’t have expanded. I was an 8 team advocate, but I knew it wouldn’t stop at 8 (or 12) so 12 was/is fine with me. But 8 was such a good round number and it would’ve potentially slowed the overall expansion process to 16. (Or whatever # they can settle on)
No, it's not. Oregon proved they were the best by going undefeated, winning the Big 10, and beating OSU during the regular season. Oregon was more deserving of playing for the national title than any other team this year.
The expanded playoff only showed us that the team that "gels" at the end, and stays the most healthy, has the best shot at winning the "title".
I don't like it. It's doing exactly what many feared, which is diminishing the importance of the regular season. No 2-loss team should EVER have a shot at the title.
The only teams that absolutely deserve a shot are those from the "power" conferences who go undefeated. This year that was only Oregon. The other 3 matter less to me.
But Penn St and Texas lost conference title games that Ohio St didn't have to play in. I guess I should have qualified that with 2 loss teams that didn't even make their conference title game.
I could get behind 8, 12 is too many. This year, if Clemson, Boise St, Arizona St, Alabama and SMU weren't included in the field of 8, no one would care.
So another words, you just crown Oregon the championship without them having to play anyone? Ridiculous
I thought the 12 team playoff was a success. Sports teams should be evaluated on how they are playing at the end of the year.
to me that makes it fun.
watching teams develop and play better by the end is exciting to watch, adds character.
as for the health issue, you could argue that speaks to the quality of coaching.
Don’t need 16 teams with 3 losses teams getting in not winning their CCG.
12 is perfect just need the 4 top rated teams get byes.
But the team that won it all lost their last regular season game to a .500 team. Were they really playing that well when the selections were made?
i thought the cfp in the end pitted the two best teams. depth is part of the game. at twelve it was so much better than the previous 4-team "invitational." i believe 8 would suffice. but so would 16. beyond that, just stop. seed all the teams. no more byes. first two games on higher seeded home turf. and it would be near perfect.
congrats to ohio and our own will howard for winning the first true championship. ohio just had more jimmys & joes. plus, will howard was a better quarterback than riley leonard. talent was enough to overcome the coaching advantage notre dame supposedly had coming in. fun game with the irish comeback. but the better squad won it all.
congrats to ohio and our own will howard for winning the first true championship. ohio just had more jimmys & joes. plus, will howard was a better quarterback than riley leonard. talent was enough to overcome the coaching advantage notre dame supposedly had coming in. fun game with the irish comeback. but the better squad won it all.
Having to play Ohio State again is why they lost too, very difficult to beat a team twice unless your the playing the Whorns.
They did just enough to make the cut to qualify. Then they proved they belonged by winning it all.
What Ever.,
1971 Nebraska and 1995 Nebraska teams and even 2019 LSU would all been crowned National Champions..
It mattered everything. That team responded from that loss with a no lose attitude. Went on to dominate some really good teams. The playoffs were a huge success other than some seeding errors. Looking forward to Nebraska being relevant enough to put their name in the hat
Yes, which is why crowning a team based upon subjective eye-ball tests is worthless.
further evidence, i guess, why it should be won on the field in an 8, 12, or 16 team cfp. thankfully, the 4-team "invitational" b.s. is behind us.
Yea beating #2, #3 and #4 teams on the field in the country means nothing.
Got It dip shit.
