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Trev Alberts

I think you give Nebraska too much credit, and there's NO guarantee that whoever the "ANY" coach Nebraska could have gotten was going to continue the enormous success that the 80's and 90's had produced. And there are plenty of examples of damn good coaches who left a successful program for another only to land with a giant thud.

You think the AD at the time Osborne retired was capable of picking THE coach? Maybe he would have, but I sure as hell don't think he would.

Who did Byrne hire when he left here for Oregon?
 
But wasn't that part of an aggrement with Osborne to also cut the football program, in return for Nebraska not starting a hockey program? That's what the old "insiders" here told me.
I heard osborne was in on it but from no one reliable, doesnt mean he wasnt.
But it wasnt the act itself, and im not talking About football if you read my post. It was the way he carried it out. Very shady. And i think they could have found a way to keep wrestling but thats beside the point.
 
I heard osborne was in on it but from no one reliable, doesnt mean he wasnt.
But it wasnt the act itself, and im not talking About football if you read my post. It was the way he carried it out. Very shady. And i think they could have found a way to keep wrestling but thats beside the point.
Semantics. A deal is a deal. Had to follow through. I guess UNO football was just too big of a threat to Osborne and his 2nd hire.
 
Not saying either are our benchmark - but going off average wins (and the fact neither Solich or Pelini were HC prior):

Solich: 9.6 wins/season
Pelini: 9.6 wins/season
Riley: 7.5 wins/season at Nebraska; 7.75 wins over 12 seasons at Oregon State

At the moment, who looks worse? Osborne or Eichorst?


Seems a bit hypocritical when your argument about how this was an unsuccessful season even though we reached 9 wins. Then you turn around and use win totals as the way to defend your position on how well a coach performed.
 
Can't have both, simultaneously, man.

This is just my opinion, but after next year (and next recruiting class), Riley will have shown me what he can do. Unlike Pelini, we have nearly three decades of head coaching history to utilize as well. Last season and this season are certainly consistent with his historically erratic trend.

Exactly. Good, bad or ugly- with Bo we at least had hope that maybe things could improve. We don't have that with Riley. He has a lengthy history of mediocrity.
 
with Bo we at least had hope that maybe things could improve

9 or 10 wins and 4 losses, seven straight years of that. Blowouts, disrespect to everything Husker related, actively looking for another job, and sideline embarrassments - for seven straight years. All with a living coaching legend a few feet away for any and all help.

I don't know what "hope" you had "that maybe things could improve", because that was never gonna change.

Yes, Mike went 6-7 & 9-4, with the same blowouts. He also cut loose two assistants in consecutive seasons that weren't cutting it & has pointed the thumb repeatedly. He has shown the ability to get top end talent, something we haven't seen in a long time, on campus during the summer [on their own dime] and during the season. Now, he has to land that top end talent.

If there's any "hope", it should be with Mike Riley, not recreating Bo Pelini's to someone he wasn't. Or would ever be from "change".
 
The only hope we had with Bo is that he wouldn`t assault a referee during a game. I`m not saying Riley is the answer but I know for a fact pelini wasn`t.
Not true, We had hope he would be a douche to the fans and media. We had hope his teams would get 800 yards rushing and 70 points hung on them every time we played Wisconsin, we had hope he would piss and or spit in most games. We had hope he would turn his team against the fans who support them. We had hope his teams would constantly play undisciplined ball while he acted like a 2 year old on the sideline. Hope that he never felt the need to recruit and he could turn anyone into the next Suh, the hope his coke head whoring little brother would embarrass the university and piss off big boosters, hope he wouldn't ever listen to TO . Their was plenty of hope under Bo!! Ooops is that hope?? Or just what he did in 7 years??Sick keep the hope alive GAMAURIVAXHUSKER!!!
 
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9 or 10 wins and 4 losses, seven straight years of that. Blowouts, disrespect to everything Husker related, actively looking for another job, and sideline embarrassments - for seven straight years. All with a living coaching legend a few feet away for any and all help.

I don't know what "hope" you had "that maybe things could improve", because that was never gonna change.

Yes, Mike went 6-7 & 9-4, with the same blowouts. He also cut loose two assistants in consecutive seasons that weren't cutting it & has pointed the thumb repeatedly. He has shown the ability to get top end talent, something we haven't seen in a long time, on campus during the summer [on their own dime] and during the season. Now, he has to land that top end talent.

If there's any "hope", it should be with Mike Riley, not recreating Bo Pelini's to someone he wasn't. Or would ever be from "change".

You're the only one who at least addressed Riley, so I'll give you that; however, my main point still stands. Riley's history does not lead an informed person to legitimately believe next year will be any better than this year. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if our team is home for the holidays next year.
 
You're the only one who at least addressed Riley, so I'll give you that; however, my main point still stands. Riley's history does not lead an informed person to legitimately believe next year will be any better than this year. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if our team is home for the holidays next year.

Your main point doesn't have a leg to stand on though. Plenty of coaches, even elite ones, have stunk at their previous team. And others have succeeded, then failed at a bigger program. There are zero guarantees unless one of the select few ELITE head coaches are at Nebraska. And that still doesn't guarantee anything.

Michigan paid Harbaugh $9M this year, 10-3 record. I consider him an elite coach, and after two seasons, he has one [or two?] more wins than Brady Hoke after two years. Is it window dressing? Doubtful, but the jury is still out. NU fans would be slamming him right now if we ended 10-3, while paying him the kind of money he's getting [this year].

Some people, and you seem to be one of them, only want Nebraska to be successful if "your preferred head coach" is in charge. At the same time, you give the current guy no chance to succeed. Because, well, he's not "your guy".

Every single fan should want Riley to succeed, at the highest of levels. And every single fan should support him to do that. Especially after two seasons, with all the problems the upperclassmen from last year and this year have caused.

There's only a handful of them left, the leader being Josh Kalu. Problem for him is, there's a couple new sheriff's in the locker room that'll knock his ass out if he tries some of the crap the others no longer around have.

Sit back and enjoy the new year. As coach Riley said, "this is the end of one team and the beginning of another". That right there should tell everyone what's been going on.
 
Your main point doesn't have a leg to stand on though. Plenty of coaches, even elite ones, have stunk at their previous team. And others have succeeded, then failed at a bigger program. There are zero guarantees unless one of the select few ELITE head coaches are at Nebraska. And that still doesn't guarantee anything.

Michigan paid Harbaugh $9M this year, 10-3 record. I consider him an elite coach, and after two seasons, he has one [or two?] more wins than Brady Hoke after two years. Is it window dressing? Doubtful, but the jury is still out. NU fans would be slamming him right now if we ended 10-3, while paying him the kind of money he's getting [this year].

Some people, and you seem to be one of them, only want Nebraska to be successful if "your preferred head coach" is in charge. At the same time, you give the current guy no chance to succeed. Because, well, he's not "your guy".

Every single fan should want Riley to succeed, at the highest of levels. And every single fan should support him to do that. Especially after two seasons, with all the problems the upperclassmen from last year and this year have caused.

There's only a handful of them left, the leader being Josh Kalu. Problem for him is, there's a couple new sheriff's in the locker room that'll knock his ass out if he tries some of the crap the others no longer around have.

Sit back and enjoy the new year. As coach Riley said, "this is the end of one team and the beginning of another". That right there should tell everyone what's been going on.
Care to elaborate on the old guard crap pulled and who the new sheriffs are??
 
Care to elaborate on the old guard crap pulled and who the new sheriffs are??

Talking with former coaches, quoted by players this past spring and summer, during the season about technique and scheme. Failing school, lack of effort in weight room, going through motions in summer workouts.

Morgan & Reed are two that won't be backing down from anyone going forward.
 
You're the only one who at least addressed Riley, so I'll give you that; however, my main point still stands. Riley's history does not lead an informed person to legitimately believe next year will be any better than this year. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if our team is home for the holidays next year.

Nah, they'll make a bowl at 6-6. Get used to it.
 
Talking with former coaches, quoted by players this past spring and summer, during the season about technique and scheme. Failing school, lack of effort in weight room, going through motions in summer workouts.

Morgan & Reed are two that won't be backing down from anyone going forward.
Why didn't the current staff do anything about this? Why would you not hold the current staff responsible?
 
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