Time for the "WTF" posts with the portal

[HuskerOH]

The roster needs to get to 105 by August. Some players with the "P" word (potential) next to their names will be moving on. With the current system, portal and NIL, not many players will wait around to get their shot. Some of the players who were going were developmental players to start with, but with the win or move-on system developed by the fans and media, this is where we are. Until the system changes, players who are not seeing the field to their satisfaction at the end of their second year will look for greener pastures and paydays. The desperate teams will continue to escalate the money for positions and players and those that have depth will lose them to these teams... Welcome to college football 2025.

Bill Busch nailed it. Until complete anarchy is achieved, the madness will continue and get worse.

 

[mgbreis]

How was this system developed by the fans and the media? Not following you on that one.

 

[RedCap]

The roster needs to get to 105 by August. Some players with the "P" word (potential) next to their names will be moving on. With the current system, portal and NIL, not many players will wait around to get their shot. Some of the players who were going were developmental players to start with, but with the win or move-on system developed by the fans and media, this is where we are. Until the system changes, players who are not seeing the field to their satisfaction at the end of their second year will look for greener pastures and paydays. The desperate teams will continue to escalate the money for positions and players and those that have depth will lose them to these teams... Welcome to college football 2025.

Bill Busch nailed it. Until complete anarchy is achieved, the madness will continue and get worse.

This situation was mostly forced by lawsuits brought to the courts.

 

[Dean Pope]

The roster needs to get to 105 by August. Some players with the "P" word (potential) next to their names will be moving on. With the current system, portal and NIL, not many players will wait around to get their shot. Some of the players who were going were developmental players to start with, but with the win or move-on system developed by the fans and media, this is where we are.

My hunch is a lot of kids at Nebraska are going to stick around and finish second semester. Most will go through winter conditioning and give spring ball their best shot. There will be a few surprises as there always is. Then we'll see a lot go into the portal in the spring. There will be a few who pull the old stick around for the free school and/or NIL, but get "hurt" in winter conditioning. Quiet quitting. Apparently, there's nothing wrong with quitting. NU and every other team seem OK with taking in quitters. And hey, everyone deserves a second chance....

 

[bob5150]

My hunch is a lot of kids at Nebraska are going to stick around and finish second semester. Most will go through winter conditioning and give spring ball their best shot. There will be a few surprises as there always is. Then we'll see a lot go into the portal in the spring. There will be a few who pull the old stick around for the free school and/or NIL, but get "hurt" in winter conditioning. Quiet quitting. Apparently, there's nothing wrong with quitting. NU and every other team seem OK with taking in quitters. And hey, everyone deserves a second chance....

People discount the reality of kids just being "done." I went to a DII school, and we had a kid who could have gone at least to the CFL. He finished an electric junior season as WR/KR/PR, and since he redshirted and graduated, he took his degree and went home. Its a grind, and sometimes kids have just played all that they want to play, or have that nagging injury that they don't want to rehab for the 15th time. Every school has kids that get to D1 football and realize they don't have what it takes to do it for another four years. NU is not the only school that deals with this.

 

[HuskerOH]

How was this system developed by the fans and the media? Not following you on that one.

Developed may not be the right word, but the only word that came to mind. I've read thousands of posts on different boards prior to the lawsuit about paying players. Then the media (primarily ESPN) climbed on board, saying it is an unfair system benefiting the universities and companies enslaving and prostituting players. (To some degree, I agree, but very little) It took years of crying and encouraging players to sue the NCAA and win their freedom. Now that the genie is out of the bottle, it will take years and a non-NCAA governing vody to reel this crap in. The dam cracked with Sam Keller's lawsuit. The rest is history.

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

Does anyone actually buy into the whole “commissioner” or NFL model of doing things?

 

[mgbreis]

I've read thousands of posts on different boards prior to the lawsuit about paying players. Then the media (primarily ESPN) climbed on board, saying it is an unfair system benefiting the universities and companies enslaving and prostituting players. (To some degree, I agree, but very little) It took years of crying and encouraging players to sue the NCAA and win their freedom. Now that the genie is out of the bottle, it will take years and a non-NCAA governing vody to reel this crap in. The dam cracked with Sam Keller's lawsuit. The rest is history.

Ok, thanks for the explanation. You're entitled to your version. My version is that the greed of the schools, conferences and NCAA caused this chaos because they refused to negotiate a better (legal) system until it was too late.

 

[cruelhalo]

Does anyone actually buy into the whole “commissioner” or NFL model of doing things?

It will get to that point. Contracts are going to take on an entirely new look after the FSU players sued their head coach. It is semi-pro and the NCAA is a dying dinosaur.

 

[SickOfPractice]

If the portal continues the way it is my WTF will be directed at NU continuing to expensively pursue high school players who want an infinite number of coach visits and GameDay invitations when they've yet to prove anything at the college level.

Let other schools take the initial risk that the kid will actually attend classes and let them spend money bulking them up at their training table. We can shop for them once they're good to play next level.

It's not a scenario I want but it's where we are apparently.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Does anyone actually buy into the whole “commissioner” or NFL model of doing things?

I sure as heck do not believe in that model, but that is where it's going.

You have to basically recruit a team now, every year.

I'm not sure I would even mess around with 'development', because there is little ROI. Let someone else to that work.. bring in the producers, pay them top dollar, see what your results are, tweak the model, do it again next year.

 

[timnsun]

If the portal continues the way it is my WTF will be directed at NU continuing to expensively pursue high school players who want an infinite number of coach visits and GameDay invitations when they've yet to prove anything at the college level.

Let other schools take the initial risk that the kid will actually attend classes and let them spend money bulking them up at their training table. We can shop for them once they're good to play next level.

It's not a scenario I want but it's where we are apparently.

That sounds great, but I’m not sure Nebraska is in as strong a position as you assume them to be in this scenario. If someone else takes them on and they are proven through that experience, they could go practically anywhere.

I don’t think people realize, if a player goes elsewhere first and kills it, it’ll be harder to bring them in after they see what’s out there wait by in the other power schools.

One poster said Raiola should have gone to Georgia first while we took McCord, and then when Raiola was not the starter at Georgia, we nab him through the transfer portal.

Like it’s really that easy.

 

[Huskers123456]

The roster needs to get to 105 by August. Some players with the "P" word (potential) next to their names will be moving on. With the current system, portal and NIL, not many players will wait around to get their shot. Some of the players who were going were developmental players to start with, but with the win or move-on system developed by the fans and media, this is where we are. Until the system changes, players who are not seeing the field to their satisfaction at the end of their second year will look for greener pastures and paydays. The desperate teams will continue to escalate the money for positions and players and those that have depth will lose them to these teams... Welcome to college football 2025.

Bill Busch nailed it. Until complete anarchy is achieved, the madness will continue and get worse.

We go up to 105 by August. Not down. We get 20 more scholarships. 95% of the walk-ons aren't worthy of a scholarship at NU. We are eliminating walk-ons and get to add scholarships. I count 17 scholarship seniors and 20 incoming freshman recruits.

 

[Huskers123456]

If the portal continues the way it is my WTF will be directed at NU continuing to expensively pursue high school players who want an infinite number of coach visits and GameDay invitations when they've yet to prove anything at the college level.

Let other schools take the initial risk that the kid will actually attend classes and let them spend money bulking them up at their training table. We can shop for them once they're good to play next level.

It's not a scenario I want but it's where we are apparently.

Do you think any of the Miami kids would be on our roster next year if they were already playing for Miami? Rhule has to be smart. When I look at our recruiting class I see a lot of kids that have the potential to play year 1 or 2. That is what you want.

 

[inWV]

Do you think any of the Miami kids would be on our roster next year if they were already playing for Miami? Rhule has to be smart. When I look at our recruiting class I see a lot of kids that have the potential to play year 1 or 2. That is what you want.

NU should continue to compete for new talent out of HS and use the portal to address needs. The Miami kids are proof positive of that approach. NU competed for them and got them, they showed out once they were on the roster and now they are in line to be multi-year starters. OTOH, with NU losing Bullock and Gifford to graduation, plus Thompson and Gbayor to the portal, getting the McCullough kid was critical.
Young depth is built in practice and then being part of a rotation at a position.

 

[oldjar07]

That sounds great, but I’m not sure Nebraska is in as strong a position as you assume them to be in this scenario. If someone else takes them on and they are proven through that experience, they could go practically anywhere.

I don’t think people realize, if a player goes elsewhere first and kills it, it’ll be harder to bring them in after they see what’s out there wait by in the other power schools.

One poster said Raiola should have gone to Georgia first while we took McCord, and then when Raiola was not the starter at Georgia, we nab him through the transfer portal.

Like it’s really that easy.

Why wouldn't it be that easy? How could Raiola kill it if he was 3rd string on the bench on a playoff team?

 

[timnsun]

Why wouldn't it be that easy? How could Raiola kill it if he was 3rd string on the bench on a playoff team?

Everyone in America will want him. If he came to Rhule and said I want to come to Nebraska as a freshman and Rhule told him no thanks, we’ve got McCord, do you really think Raiola would transfer to Nebraska later?

Edit: maybe he would come as a portal guy if he wasn’t happy at Georgia. But if he was in line to be the starter next year, maybe he stays and we are out. I am of the opinion you don’t take that chance. You are of the opinion it’s worth the risk. And that’s ok.

 

[mgbreis]

Everyone in America will want him. If he came to Rhule and said I want to come to Nebraska as a freshman and Rhule told him no thanks, we’ve got McCord, do you really think Raiola would transfer to Nebraska later?

Kinda hard to argue with someone living in their own fantasy world on every topic. I predict he'll say no one would actually want him and he'd crawl on his knees to Nebraska.

 

[Dean Pope]

People discount the reality of kids just being "done." I went to a DII school, and we had a kid who could have gone at least to the CFL. He finished an electric junior season as WR/KR/PR, and since he redshirted and graduated, he took his degree and went home. Its a grind, and sometimes kids have just played all that they want to play, or have that nagging injury that they don't want to rehab for the 15th time. Every school has kids that get to D1 football and realize they don't have what it takes to do it for another four years. NU is not the only school that deals with this.

I think that's what will happen with a good portion of the guys who lose a spot to the 105 situation. If they are a year or two from getting their degree, they're not going to pack up and go play at an Ohio or NW Missouri St. or Wayne State, whatever the level. They are just going to finish school. If any of those guys can get one of those injury deals to pay their tuition then all the better.

 

[cruelhalo]

Here's a big ole WTF...

Why does it appear as Nebraska is the caretaker for any player that gets injured and destroys its roster with the walking dead. If the players want their NIL $$ then stay healthy. Otherwise pack up and move on.

Given Fidone's history with injuries and the fact that he runs like Robo Cop, he wouldn't get dick for NIL, so why is Nebraska continuing to hand out the cash?

It's time to contract these guys. They are expendable.

 

[dinglefritz]

If the portal continues the way it is my WTF will be directed at NU continuing to expensively pursue high school players who want an infinite number of coach visits and GameDay invitations when they've yet to prove anything at the college level.

Let other schools take the initial risk that the kid will actually attend classes and let them spend money bulking them up at their training table. We can shop for them once they're good to play next level.

It's not a scenario I want but it's where we are apparently.

You’re going to miss out on most of the top talent by ignoring high school recruiting. The cost of recruiting high schoolers pales compared to the cost of trying to lure top players out of the portal. Your foundation of your team still needs to be high schoolers supplemented by free agents.

 

[Bugeater]

Here's a big ole WTF...

Why does it appear as Nebraska is the caretaker for any player that gets injured and destroys its roster with the walking dead. If the players want their NIL $$ then stay healthy. Otherwise pack up and move on.

Given Fidone's history with injuries and the fact that he runs like Robo Cop, he wouldn't get dick for NIL, so why is Nebraska continuing to hand out the cash?

It's time to contract these guys. They are expendable.

Damn, I can't remember Robo Cop running, at least not in the first two. But saying Fidone runs like Robo Cop is Gold Jerry, Gold!

 

[inWV]

Here's a big ole WTF...

Why does it appear as Nebraska is the caretaker for any player that gets injured and destroys its roster with the walking dead. If the players want their NIL $$ then stay healthy. Otherwise pack up and move on.

Given Fidone's history with injuries and the fact that he runs like Robo Cop, he wouldn't get dick for NIL, so why is Nebraska continuing to hand out the cash?

It's time to contract these guys. They are expendable.

Fidone was the fourth leading receiver on the team and his usage went up during the more difficult latter half of the season. He has a lumbering gate when he runs. He appears to have an NIL deal, details undisclosed.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

NIL and the transfer portal are destroying college football. Call me an old fogey all you want, but the game was better before all this shit started. Not better for the players I guess, which is why the changes were forced via the courts, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is slowly destroying college football.

 

[regoratsginrom]

Damn, I can't remember Robo Cop running, at least not in the first two. But saying Fidone runs like Robo Cop is Gold Jerry, Gold!

I always envision a bull moose when I see Fidone run.

 

[redwine65]

This situation was mostly forced by lawsuits brought to the courts.

I heard a ucla player

 

[redwine65]

Kinda hard to argue with someone living in their own fantasy world on every topic. I predict he'll say no one would actually want him and he'd crawl on his knees to Nebraska.

seems to me you would get both mccord and raiola..mccord plays his last year wins alot of games then raiola has a year under his belt learning then explodes onto the scene fully prepared...and hh is at tight end

 

[redwine65]

NIL and the transfer portal are destroying college football. Call me an old fogey all you want, but the game was better before all this shit started. Not better for the players I guess, which is why the changes were forced via the courts, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is slowly destroying college football.

I think there's alot of things changing college football..

1.
I don't really like the thought of just the sec and B1G in the nfl lite thats coming...
I'd like to see 4, 20 team conferences
each conferance would have 2 devisions
win the devision then go to the conferance champ game
win the conferance champ game and go to a 4 team playoff...
don't need polls or play off committees, it's systematic and decided all on the gridiron...
80 of the best teams in college football seems reasonable and not a big blood bath, like if there was just like 40 teams..
and pre season 3 non conferance games 1 from each of the other conferences
that would be a max of 15 games to go all the way, and a min of 12 games if your iowa

and make them 4 conferences make sense on a map...
perhaps a north south east and west conferance
I would have 50 of the teams represent the 50 states...then 30 more teams from states depending on their population
80 teams..

the 50 some teams left can make their own B league

2.
why not just do like the nfl does with players as far as paying them?
seems to work out fine, with the salary cap and all
standardized contracts, reported to irs...etc..so players stay out of trouble

3.
I would say you have to wait 2 years to transfer,
this would help everything be more stable and lead to make people make wiser decisions.
coaches and players

there, the bill is written up, trump need to copy this, have the 3 branches pass it, and it's done right

 

[huskerfan1414]

NIL and the transfer portal are destroying college football. Call me an old fogey all you want, but the game was better before all this shit started. Not better for the players I guess, which is why the changes were forced via the courts, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is slowly destroying college football.

I disagree that this is better for the players. A few yes, most no.

They also better be paying for everything else now.

 

[Clemke32]

I honestly think the way the system sits right now it’s actually doing more harm than good for these kids. There is something to be said about knowing a system, and having consistency. With kids up and moving every other year In hopes of getting that playing time they’ll never fully develop to their potential and will never really learn a system. Theres a lot of money to be had and I can’t blame the kids for going to get it, but at some point they have to realize that the grass is greener only where you water it.

 

[oldjar07]

I disagree that this is better for the players. A few yes, most no.

They also better be paying for everything else now.

Handing college kids hundreds of thousands of dollars... Many with little to no emotional discipline/maturity at this point in their lives, let alone financial discipline. What could possibly go wrong? We're going to be hearing some wild ass stories. Drugs, hookers, gambling will be the tame end of it.

 

[BigRedTed]

Anymore I find it difficult to get excited when we land a big recruit. Seems that everyone flips commitments a few times and then once they start playing flips schools a few times as well.

 

[ZaneHickey]

Wednesday Tuesday Friday? Seems out of order.

 

[Huskers123456]

It's pretty simple people. We just turn away 5 star recruits, hope they suck enough to leave schools like Georgia, then try to recruit them back to NU with less eligibility. It's a brilliant strategy with many variables that are sure to go our way.

To top it off, we'll rely on recruiting portal qbs who are choosing between a team that hasn't been to a bowl game in 8 years and a mediocre ACC team that just fired their coach, but definitely isn't scared of competition. Fool-proof strategy that is definitely easier than just signing the 5 star and letting them develop for 3 years.

 

[Zeke2005]

I think there's alot of things changing college football..

1.
I don't really like the thought of just the sec and B1G in the nfl lite thats coming...
I'd like to see 4, 20 team conferences
each conferance would have 2 devisions
win the devision then go to the conferance champ game
win the conferance champ game and go to a 4 team playoff...
don't need polls or play off committees, it's systematic and decided all on the gridiron...
80 of the best teams in college football seems reasonable and not a big blood bath, like if there was just like 40 teams..
and pre season 3 non conferance games 1 from each of the other conferences
that would be a max of 15 games to go all the way, and a min of 12 games if your iowa

and make them 4 conferences make sense on a map...
perhaps a north south east and west conferance
I would have 50 of the teams represent the 50 states...then 30 more teams from states depending on their population
80 teams..

the 50 some teams left can make their own B league

2.
why not just do like the nfl does with players as far as paying them?
seems to work out fine, with the salary cap and all
standardized contracts, reported to irs...etc..so players stay out of trouble

3.
I would say you have to wait 2 years to transfer,
this would help everything be more stable and lead to make people make wiser decisions.
coaches and players

there, the bill is written up, trump need to copy this, have the 3 branches pass it, and it's done right

Fvck having 80 teams. For me it’s either the SEC and big ten only or leave all 135ish in. How do you chop off at 80?

 

[GBRforLife1]

Handing college kids hundreds of thousands of dollars... Many with little to no emotional discipline/maturity at this point in their lives, let alone financial discipline. What could possibly go wrong? We're going to be hearing some wild ass stories. Drugs, hookers, gambling will be the tame end of it.

Football players don't need hookers. Plenty of chicks waiting to bounce on it just because a guy is on the team. Even more if he's good.

 

[oldjar07]

Football players don't need hookers. Plenty of chicks waiting to bounce on it just because a guy is on the team. Even more if he's good.

Even more if he has money. Jersey chasing going to take on a whole new meaning.

 

[redwine65]

Fvck having 80 teams. For me it’s either the SEC and big ten only or leave all 135ish in. How do you chop off at 80?

well to have sec crying they want small number, and g5 whining they want a big number..split the difference...then it still has enough teams to have some prestige

 

[Zeke2005]

well to have sec crying they want small number, and g5 whining they want a big number..split the difference...then it still has enough teams to have some prestige

I just don’t know how you decide who to cut out at 80 teams. Probably a dozen programs could be talked into going to FCS because they don’t belong in FBS. But still talking about slamming the door on 30-40 programs, how do you choose.

 

[Zeke2005]

I think that's what will happen with a good portion of the guys who lose a spot to the 105 situation. If they are a year or two from getting their degree, they're not going to pack up and go play at an Ohio or NW Missouri St. or Wayne State, whatever the level. They are just going to finish school. If any of those guys can get one of those injury deals to pay their tuition then all the better.

You talking Wayne State College or Wayne State University ?