True, but the poster specifically stated someone with experience winning conference championships and making the playoffs. Other than those coaches, who else meets that criteria?
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Nebraska is a stupid, conservative state and that's why we get stupid, conservative results in an era where the big spenders win. LSU, USC, and Alabama went all in on their coaching hires and paid them well. And look at their results. It's really not that complicated. Coaches want to feel valued and the best way to do that is pay them what they're worth. We need to stop shopping in the bargain bin for coaches, because it's pathetic, especially for a supposed blueblood program.
The thing is top assistants want to work for a top coach. We're not getting top assistants here if we don't get a top notch coach.
With all due respect, this is not a very good comeback.
#1 Scott Frost was an arrogant, selfish manchild who had no business being a head coach of a BIG team.
#2. The much reviled Mike Riley had a 9 win team in season 2.
#3. Vanderbilt has won 5 games this year and UConn is bowl eligible, two of the worst football teams last year.
With the schedule next year, Nebraska should be in a bowl game next year. Anything else is a losers mentality.
Personally I believe EVERY P5 job is a difficult job. If they weren’t schools wouldn’t be paying millions for coaches. The guys who can really elevate a program are few and far between and then you need some luck.
Exactly. The only one MAYBE available is Urban and I don’t think he has the fire in the belly to take on NU. Why should he?
And every single one of those guys was a successful position coach and/or a coordinator at a P5 school or a HC at a lower level program or smaller P5 school AND ALL were HC at P5 schools before they reached the age of 50. They advanced their careers early and often and didn’t sit contently in Whitewater, Wisconsin or Fargo, North Dakota.
Bill Obrien
Matt Rhule
Tom Herman
Dan Mullen.
Gus Malzahn
All examples of coaches with more experience and better P5 results than the 2 Kansas boys and the guy who recruits Army officers, who appear to be in the lead for this job.
You don’t have to hire a coach that is currently taking his teams to the CFP, we can all agree Saban isn’t coming to Lincoln. What you have to find is the guy who is hungry and successful throughout his career.
Isn't hiring a coordinator or an assistant coach just as big of a risk as hiring a successful head coach from the G5 or FCS level?
True, but some P5 jobs are harder than others. For example, Texas and Florida are in locations that are loaded with talent and it's easy to get 4 and 5 star players to come there.
Yes, you got to have a coach to develop those players and establish a winning culture, but it's a lot easier to do so in a talent rich region than it is in a talent desert.
So we suck because the state of Nebraska leans red come election years.....fascinating.
True, anyone can beat anyone on a given day. However, wouldn't you say that it's easier to have winning seasons at Texas and Florida than it is at Vanderbilt and Kansas?
We've been close a lot of times over the past 2 years.
No, we haven’t
Even Saturday - up by 11 in the 4th quarter against a terrible team & we have a zero percent chance to win
We are closer to folding the program and playing lacrosse than we are to beating anybody of substance
The Michigan game last year and Michigan State game of last year are examples of games we were very close to winning.
We had zero chance to win each game
Sorry you have so many hook holes in your lip, carp
BUT that's exactly one of the traits that makes a great head coach. He can put together the best staff because he understands the strengths and weaknesses of assistants. The task for hiring assistants is on the head coach, not the AD.
Let me clarify, the requisite success and experience at the P5 level doesn’t have to be as the head coach.
The results speak for themselves. Ignoring them and repeating this every year is the losers game. Looking at the schedule and penciling in games like Purdue as wins because we always beat them or Illinois because they haven't been good forever is a losers game. Reading all the articles about how much better everything is when the play on the field is worse is a losers game. We hired the golden boy and paid 5 mill a year, gave him free reign to hire his own coaches and that has been a constant turnover of people. Oh but NIL is gong to save us, Nebraska is on top of that as well and of course we won the transfer portal sweepstakes.
Pointing to other teams is meaningless, I only care about one. I watch them carefully and also those teams in their league and division. The spread is getting worse every year, I don't care about UConn and Vandy. We couldn't beat Georgia Southern for crying out loud.
Its not like this is all new ground as well, just look at the last 20 years. At this point I don't think there are any instant fixes, it is going to take time regardless of what the schedule is next year or the year after. It is about getting better, playing better football at a much higher level, not the crappy schedule that should get a team 6 wins, that is a losers mentality.
Get a good young teacher/coach let him get his staff in and give him some time. This thing is severely broken. I am patient and have been but anyone with a smidgen of football acumen could see there have been systemic problems that last 5 years but yet, everyone kept thinking this was the break out year and four wins was the ceiling.
Isn't hiring a coordinator just as risky as hiring successful G5 head coach?
Every hire is risky
I’ve moved over to the “bright young coach” side of things if it’s not Rhule. Go get Garrett Riley TCUs OC, Georgia’s OC TODD Monken, Zac Taylor and yes I think he could be had. Taylor has recruited and coached in college in Texas. We could double his pay.
Wanting to take a stab at Zac Taylor has little to do for me with his time at NU other than we all know that he’s a grinder and great guy. I tried to think of another young coach in the NFL and he’s the only one I could come up with who might consider taking our job.
We could get really crazy and hire Montana State’s head guy Bret Vigen. He’s probably the hottest young FCS coach in the game. We wouldn’t have to guarantee him anywhere near what we gave Frost. What the hell do we have to lose if we gave a guy like him 2-3 years?
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Todd Monken is 56. I'm glad that's still considered young.
You might get 15 years out of him. I’ll be dead probably by then so what do I care?🤤
At this point, we need to work whatever magic we can to officially bring on DeBoer in Jan 2023 after UWs bowl game and when that $12mil buyout is gone.
We don’t know his ceiling but we know a lot of the other guys ceilings and we need to lock him up ASAP.
Dude knows offense, it is so much better than ours. And his teams actually play some defense too.
From South Dakota and still in his 40s. Come on Trev!
No because we're fiscally conservative and it limits our coaching options unnecessarily. Trev cares more about pinching a few pennies than bringing in a top notch coach, and I think that's obvious given the position hasn't been filled already.
Some of you are truly nucking futs! WOW. Just jump to your own conclusions and assume they are correct no matter what. If Trev were concerned about pinching pennies he would not have fired Frost when he did. He would have waited until the buyout dropped considerably! Look at the whole picture people! Some of you are so short sighted it is almost scary!
You don't know anything at all about Trev's thinking on this hire. You know less than nothing.
This. I left him off my most recent list just because I don’t think he’s as much of a gamble as some of the less proven guys.
Seems to me like we have stepped up and paid everyone very well when we came a knockin in the past..and gave them a longer leash than we should have...you can say a lot of things about the program....but being cheap ain't one of them...and we both know you were getting in a cheap shot at ypur political nemisis.
No one that is still here following Nebraska football after the last 8 years is short sighted. We've done this shit year-after-year ad nauseam so I reserve the right to be impatient with stupidity where I see it. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, but when Trev is doing interviews and talking about "responsible allocation of resources" that sounds like someone laying groundwork to soften the blow of a less-than-fantastic hire. I'm not assuming I'm correct and I hope I'm not. If we hire Leipold and you're excited about it then we'll have to disagree. And, if that's the type of hire you're hoping for then the person who is nucking futs is in your mirror.
The only coach who would set the fan's sights would be Meyer, and he's not coming.
The next level is the Ruhles, Arandas, O'Briens, etc. As fans, I think the rationale is to let the grind toward respectability begin. A "let's get this thing started" attitude.
The hiring of Viegen, Garret Riley, and Kendall Briles would be met with questions if they are ready to take that next step in coaching. Taking a risk. Is this going to be another Frost thing?
Someone like Monken, and Doeren will just mean more of what we've seen the last 10 years or so. We're thinking, so nobody worth a shit wanted this job?
What level are we fans going to be at in a week or so?
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Well as I've said I don't have all the resources Trev has at his disposal to do analysis BUT if forced to pick the best next head coach based on what I've read, I'd pick Luke Fickell. No, I know too many people have already said that Fickell wouldn't accept a job out of Ohio so it most likely wouldn't happen but that would be my pick as the guy most likely to be able to win again at Nebraska.
I am there as well and have been early on. I have spent zero time researching the names that have been floated around. I don't like the term 'splash hire" as it doesn't mean a thing to me but apparently fixes everything. Find that hard working, bright minded guy and support him. He will repay that loyalty over time. There will be bumps along three way but the time span could be much longer than many if these splash hire guys. Not to mention they simply are not moving to Nebraska.
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