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This is easily the least talented team I have ever seen

I'm trying to enjoy the victory, because I don't think we win many more this year. I also don't think it's appropriate to call any players out specifically, but it's obvious that we have very little speed on defense, and possibly the worst possible scheme for our current personnel.

The issues on offense are less glaring, but I'm certain that we will really struggle to run the ball in the Big 10. Our line gets zero push. We are going to have to play some flawless games to beat anyone with a pulse this year, and to this point we have been ridiculously sloppy in al phases.
bunch of BS - this is the worst job of coaching especially in the secondary I have ever seen our talent is not as bad as what is being shown - a D2 team would show better at this point
 
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I'm trying to enjoy the victory, because I don't think we win many more this year. I also don't think it's appropriate to call any players out specifically, but it's obvious that we have very little speed on defense, and possibly the worst possible scheme for our current personnel.

The issues on offense are less glaring, but I'm certain that we will really struggle to run the ball in the Big 10. Our line gets zero push. We are going to have to play some flawless games to beat anyone with a pulse this year, and to this point we have been ridiculously sloppy in al phases.
Ummm Kay... cause the thread title is just a weeeee bit deceiving
 
Dude I want to agree with you. I really do. But after 4 games I'm just not convinced we have the talent to win 9. And I still do believe that the only reason we cling to it so tightly is b/c we're not winning championships.
I was being sarcastic for most of it. That being said, I do think that our #1's are talented enough (relative to those in the West) to win 9. If Bo were in charge, I'd say that we have no chance of getting there. Because of our current coach, I think we do have a chance, even in his first year.
 
bunch of BS - this is the worst job of coaching especially in the secondary I have ever seen our talent is not as bad as what is being shown - a D2 team would show better at this point
I totally agree, this is much worse than the multiple record-setting ass poundings we took under the defensive genius.
 
South Alabama is getting killed at home against NC State. It's 42-10 at halftime . Watching the NC State players fly around on defense and offense to me looks like we have some talent issues.
 
I totally agree, this is much worse than the multiple record-setting ass poundings we took under the defensive genius.
If you are comparing the defensive coaching to the previous coach who was fired mainly because of defensive meltdowns - then I see no improvement and if it continues to be this bad these defensive coaches should go the way of the last bunch
 
South Alabama is getting killed at home against NC State. It's 42-10 at halftime . Watching the NC State players fly around on defense and offense to me looks like we have some talent issues.
The same players did much better in pass defense under different coaches and now you telling them they have no talent - BS - this failure is all on the coaches
 
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South Alabama is getting killed at home against NC State. It's 42-10 at halftime . Watching the NC State players fly around on defense and offense to me looks like we have some talent issues.
Is there any chance at all its a difference in coaching or scheme? Seriously
Iisten to yourself. Nc state does not have more talent than Nebraska! Does Nebraska have enough talent? No. But c'mon
 
The same players did much better in pass defense under different coaches and now you telling them they have no talent - BS - this failure is all on the coaches


Sorry, don't agree at all . Watching the speed and athleticism of the NC State players, there is a glaring and disturbing difference versus our roster . Watch yourself . It's on ESPNews.
 
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If you are comparing the defensive coaching to the previous coach who was fired mainly because of defensive meltdowns - then I see no improvement and if it continues to be this bad these defensive coaches should go the way of the last bunch
Actually, you were comparing them. I just pointed out that you are wrong.
 
Is there any chance at all its a difference in coaching or scheme? Seriously
Iisten to yourself. Nc state does not have more talent than Nebraska! Does Nebraska have enough talent? No. But c'mon

Watch the game yourelf, and then give me your honest assessment . NC State has some serious speed. We look slow compared to them.
 
We have talent is certain spots but we have no depth at LBer and DE and who's faults that not Riley this year.

We can thank Peelini for his hard work in this area.
 
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If you are comparing the defensive coaching to the previous coach who was fired mainly because of defensive meltdowns - then I see no improvement and if it continues to be this bad these defensive coaches should go the way of the last bunch
Our defense took a major hit today when M Newby went down. We are so screwed at linebacker. I don't know what people expect out of this defense with the players we are having to put on the field right now. Multiple freshmen and walkons at multiple positions is NOT a recipe for success.
 
Watch the game yourelf, and then give me your honest assessment . NC State has some serious speed. We look slow compared to them.
You don't get it. Teams that are sure of themselves, are well coached, and have a sound system can play fast and with confidence. Nc state is not any more talented than us they simply can play faster because they can utilize what they have better than we do. (I'll admit part of the reason could be because they have more film on them and can better scheme because of it. But I'm trying to hammer home that while we are not as talented as we'd like to be we have more talent than our performance shows).
 
There were 21 players on the 2008 roster that played in the NFL. It was a way more talented roster. There was only one DB (Asante) who started who was an NFL talent, but there was also a guy named Suh on that team that single handedly created a pass rush.

That is kind of the point of my post. People said the same things back then as they say today. The fact is that as long as we're losing or struggling it will be a talent issue with some.
 
Finally seeing what the lack of recruiting for the last 7 years has done to the team. There is no depth. Thanks, Bo.
 
We have talent is certain spots but we have no depth at LBer and DE and who's faults that not Riley this year.

We can thank Peelini for his hard work in this area.


This.

On defensive we have 4 Def tackles. the rest of the defense consists of a converted TE at DE --(who is making strides) + walkons. LB --- walkons + walking wounded. DB -- the guys back there can't stay with their shadow in coverage. You can't scheme around that collection

the offensive line is poor --- you are going to struggle regardless of how talented you are in other positions -- we have done a pretty good job of moving the ball considering you have to scheme around your entire off line
 
The DBs have regressed. No question. That's on Stewart.

However, it's also a change in defensive philosophy.

It's both. Everyone should be able to see both.
 
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The d scheme requires a pass rush , without it your on an island as a db

Settle down guys , stop running to the cliff and jumping off
 
When Nebraska is on defense, what game are some of you guys watching? Have your seen our defensive line? One of our defensive ends has ballooned up this year and his abIlity to anything is reduced. The rest of the unit is cobbled together with duct tape and bailing wire. Quarterbacks have had plenty of time to sip a cup of tea and wait for their receivers to get open. There is no immediate fix for a situation like this. NONE. The depth chart cannot be turned over in one season, it is mathematically impossible.

The defensive approach brings good and bad with it. Some things need to be adjusted. There are defensive backs who are not accustomed to playing on islands and they have spent a lot of time playing with safety help over the top and they are getting killed out there. Still, the defense is falling apart because he pass rush is the weakest DL Nebraska has had in decades
 
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Agree that 2004 team had less talent and a larger scheme change, at least on offense. Callahan was screwed.

NU needs to recruit better. Anyone concerned about where the 2016 class is at right now? I think they'll need a few JUCO guys to fill in right away next year at LB and DE.
 
It wasn't a talent issue before the year. It was a coaching issue. You can't have it both ways. I know we are weak at d end and linebacker but the dbs are mainly back. They were pretty solid across the board last year in a lot of statistics. We are now horrible. What gives? We were also getting pressure on the Southern Miss qb today and they still got burned. We can also add in the penalties and special teams play too. Some of this falls on poor coaching.
Because we were not talented with Pelini either, we played so much cover 2 and nickel and dime to stop the pass. It covered up the weakness but exposed our lbers to the run. Now we are trying to cover for our lack of lbers and def ends by blitzing and playing tons of man cover which now has them getting exposed They are used to help over the top. Either way, no matter the scheme or coach we just do not have talent to be a strong defensive scheme and yes I do blame the lack of talent on bo. What is hard for me is he was a defensive head coach and our def recruiting was very weak. You would think we would have been stocked every position on defense
 
Because we were not talented with Pelini either, we played so much cover 2 and nickel and dime to stop the pass. It covered up the weakness but exposed our lbers to the run. Now we are trying to cover for our lack of lbers and def ends by blitzing and playing tons of man cover which now has them getting exposed They are used to help over the top. Either way, no matter the scheme or coach we just do not have talent to be a strong defensive scheme and yes I do blame the lack of talent on bo. What is hard for me is he was a defensive head coach and our def recruiting was very weak. You would think we would have been stocked every position on defense

We do have the talent to defend a slant pass and fly route. I think it's a little crazy to ask a linebacker to cover a slot wr at times. We should probably play more nickel and dime against teams who aren't a threat to run. Our most talented players are in the defensive backfield besides d-tackle.
 
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So anyone should be able to hold passing offenses to less than 50% right, since these guys have no talent. Because that's what they did last year.

Throw the players under the bus but give the head coaching a pass...unbelievable.
 
There goes that "9 games" talk again. I'm so sick of hearing that. Who cares of you win 6, 4, 8, or 9...if you KNOW the product/talent on the field can't bring anything home except the Heroes Trophy. We only started paying attention to this "9 games" BS when NU quit winning championships. I want the talent and the coaching staff to bring championships back. And we clearly don't have the talent for that right now.

Hammer meets nail. I'll take a conference championship and a rose bowl appearance every once in awhile with some 7 win seasons over consistent 9 win seasons with no chance of being competitive in big games any day of the week.
 
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So anyone should be able to hold passing offenses to less than 50% right, since these guys have no talent. Because that's what they did last year.

Throw the players under the bus but give the head coaching a pass...unbelievable.

Because we played so much zone cover 2. I would hope so. Problem is then we can't stop the run which is something we could not do last year. Give it a rest. Let them get some players before this bullshit. Hell we have not even had our best group on the field at one time this year. Get som perspective. So what do you want....4 games and we abandon our staff because arm chair Qbs like you know more
 
So anyone should be able to hold passing offenses to less than 50% right, since these guys have no talent. Because that's what they did last year.

Throw the players under the bus but give the head coaching a pass...unbelievable.
We have the exact same defensive players as last year?
 
Talent poor? Bullshit!! Injury riddled, yes. Mistake prone yes! Lack of talent doesn't cause 12 penalties a game. It doesn't cause bad clock management. It doesn't cause a team not to show up in the first half on the road. It doesn't cause reverses and low percentage long passes on 3rd and one. It doesn't cause pass happy red zone calls. It doesn't cause O Linemen to stand straight up on running plays and stop before the whistle. All of this is coaching my friends. I'm not impressed.
 
When Nebraska is on defense, what game are some of you guys watching? Have your seen our defensive line? One of our defensive ends has ballooned up this year and his abIlity to anything is reduced. The rest of the unit is cobbled together with duct tape and bailing wire. Quarterbacks have had plenty of time to sip a cup of tea and wait for their receivers to get open. There is no immediate fix for a situation like this. NONE. The depth chart cannot be turned over in one season, it is mathematically impossible.

The defensive approach brings good and bad with it. Some things need to be adjusted. There are defensive backs who are not accustomed to playing on islands and they have spent a lot of time playing with safety help over the top and they are getting killed out there. Still, the defense is falling apart because he pass rush is the weakest DL Nebraska has had in decades
90 gets gassed after 2 plays. I hope he can get right.
 
Talent poor? Bullshit!! Injury riddled, yes. Mistake prone yes! Lack of talent doesn't cause 12 penalties a game. It doesn't cause bad clock management. It doesn't cause a team not to show up in the first half on the road. It doesn't cause reverses and low percentage long passes on 3rd and one. It doesn't cause pass happy red zone calls. It doesn't cause O Linemen to stand straight up on running plays and stop before the whistle. All of this is coaching my friends. I'm not impressed.

If you think this team is talent laden or talent rich you are mistaken. We do have some talented guys but not many and not nearly enough. When your travel roster is comprised of 1/3 walk-ons that speaks volumes. When guys go down or are suspended and the next man up is a walk-on that is not coaching.
 
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If you think this team is talent laden or talent rich you are mistaken. We do have some talented guys but not many and wnot nearly enough. When your travel roster is comprised of 1/3 walk-ons that speaks volumes. When guys go down or are suspended and the next man up is a walk-on that is not coaching.

So true rrhusker!! All you need to do is watch some of the other top teams, and the talent gap is quite eye opening.
 
This team has a punchers chance at 8-9 wins if they can stay healthy. On the bright side remember two things
1. With a coaching change there are growing pains in the first year as coaches/players adjust to new schemes and terminology on both sides of the ball
2. CMR recruited very well at Oregon State and with more resources and better everything at Nebraska this staff should be able to upgrade the overall talent level in short order.
 
This team has a punchers chance at 8-9 wins if they can stay healthy. On the bright side remember two things
1. With a coaching change there are growing pains in the first year as coaches/players adjust to new schemes and terminology on both sides of the ball
2. CMR recruited very well at Oregon State and with more resources and better everything at Nebraska this staff should be able to upgrade the overall talent level in short order.
Oregon state and CU landed 4 stars tonight. Just saying
 
I was being sarcastic for most of it. That being said, I do think that our #1's are talented enough (relative to those in the West) to win 9. If Bo were in charge, I'd say that we have no chance of getting there. Because of our current coach, I think we do have a chance, even in his first year.

I keep seeing things like this..."we would be worse with Bo". That is ridiculous to me. Riley is a .500 coach that has had losing seasons 3 of the past 5 years and 6 out of 14 years that he has coached college. Bo took over Nebraska at rock bottom and went 67-27.

The reason Riley is at Nebraska is because he is a nice guy...has nothing to do with coaching ability. Which is why I think his stay in Lincoln will be short lived.
 
I keep seeing things like this..."we would be worse with Bo". That is ridiculous to me. Riley is a .500 coach that has had losing seasons 3 of the past 5 years and 6 out of 14 years that he has coached college. Bo took over Nebraska at rock bottom and went 67-27.

The reason Riley is at Nebraska is because he is a nice guy...has nothing to do with coaching ability. Which is why I think his stay in Lincoln will be short lived.
Wish I could disagree with this but haven't seen much to tell me otherwise so far
 
I keep seeing things like this..."we would be worse with Bo". That is ridiculous to me. Riley is a .500 coach that has had losing seasons 3 of the past 5 years and 6 out of 14 years that he has coached college. Bo took over Nebraska at rock bottom and went 67-27.

The reason Riley is at Nebraska is because he is a nice guy...has nothing to do with coaching ability. Which is why I think his stay in Lincoln will be short lived.
Do you believe this.
 
Do you believe this.

I don't think he does. To believe even a little that SE hired Riley because he was a nice guy and that's the only reason is complete garbage.

He might have hired the wrong guy, that's yet to be determined, but to believe that Riley is only in Lincoln because he is nice is just plain stupid. You don't get to where SE is by making decisions like that.

Put Bo in Riley's shoes at OSU and he never sees the light of above 500. Let alone winning a bowl game. I would guess that 95% of Bo's wins came against teams with less talent, at OSU how often do you play a team with lesser talent? Bo would absolutely suck it at OSU because he relied on having more talent than the opposition. On the rare occasions when he actually had to coach he showed how ridiculously bad he truly is. That's how you earn a one way ticket to YSU
 
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