Well Clemson and FSU are more like football schools and NC and uva are more like basketball schools + the academics ..
Sounds like Oregon & Washington to B1G is just about done.
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Those rivalries would still exist.. unc and uva are snooze fests.
You make some good points. I just think overall I would rather be seen as the 3rd closest option to a CA recruit that wants to play in a P2 conference. I think that trumps having another game or two against a team out west. Already will be playing in southern CA every other year.
Would certainly rather see how that goes for a decade before right away adding a recruiting juggernaut like Oregon that will immediately get top tier talent from an area that Nebraska would have had a better chance with otherwise.
As a Nebraska fan, I worry more about Oregon recruiting Texas than I do Oregon recruiting California. Nebraska is starting to make inroads in Texas. When Oregon was most successful under Chip Kelly, they pulled a bunch of players from Texas. That brand would still play down here.
What I don't get is the ink on the B1G TV deal isn't even dry. I don't think it is finalized due to some "loose ends" Warren left. But assuming it gets signed before the season, how do Oregon and Washington fit in? If they get even half the share other schools get, that will be $35M Where will that $70 M a year come from? Are the networks going to pony u[ more money, or will the Washington and Oregon money decrease all the other school's shares?
There's more game inventory to be televised with more schools added. They may sign another media partner to show games, likely a streaming partner like Apple or Amazon I'd guess. Don't know how it shakes out. Guess it depends on how hungry those media companies are.
The Big Ten is trying to set up an empire that rules the next 100 years of college sports and collect the actual big money that research dollars brings.
And most Nebraska fans are on here saying things like , well I hope we bring in a republican leaning football school so we can feel comfortable when we yell at opposing fans.
LOL.
If the Big 10 owns everything outside of the Deep South they really don’t care if the Deep South wins the natty in football most of the time. The Big 10 wants to be in the owners box, not in the players union.
I think a realistic stab into the south might include UNC, but Cal and Stanford seem like general good fits as an overall profile. I’m not super sure why folks want either of the Arizona schools as their sports and academics are both generally fine but not stellar.
Notre Dame would be a good get if you could haul them in, and FSU and Miami are interesting to think about if they actually want to play in the Big. This would give the big significant footprint everywhere except basically the gulf states and Georgia.
And most Nebraska fans are on here saying things like , well I hope we bring in a republican leaning football school so we can feel comfortable when we yell at opposing fans.
LOL.
If the Big 10 owns everything outside of the Deep South they really don’t care if the Deep South wins the natty in football most of the time. The Big 10 wants to be in the owners box, not in the players union.
I think a realistic stab into the south might include UNC, but Cal and Stanford seem like general good fits as an overall profile. I’m not super sure why folks want either of the Arizona schools as their sports and academics are both generally fine but not stellar.
Notre Dame would be a good get if you could haul them in, and FSU and Miami are interesting to think about if they actually want to play in the Big. This would give the big significant footprint everywhere except basically the gulf states and Georgia.
Your opinion is worthless here pig humper. Go talk about gambling with your inbred friends.
Which gender are you feeling like today?
I would probably prefer to add Stanford without Cal, but I have zero idea of the politics of that.
I feel the same way about Arizona, I’d take them, if we didn’t also have to bring ASU.
I like the idea of courting Houston for Texas presence and fishing in the southeast as well than just settling for a handful of ok schools out west looking to join.
All of them?
We have to be real here. People have long had problems with the Big from a football perspective because they are not focused on the singular goal of a national championship. It is what it is. Let’s not make stupid mistakes and assume any decisions are going to be made with that overarching objective in mind.
The other gripes about culture of the school or fan bases. The conference already goes coast to coast. And even when we joined it covered half the country. There wasn’t a whole lot similar between an NU fan in Omaha and a PSU fan in Philly.
Trying to add schools that are only culturally similar to NU in a conference whose boundaries are this big when seeking only the most advantageous schools available…..is sort of a fools errand. NUs claim to fame historically is we are basically the only farm state school to punch far above its weight in football trophies. By definition most schools are not like us.
CFB is rapidly heading towards a mini NFL like stance. NU is going to have to be able to go head to head with the big boys and win, or be middle of the road.
I don’t think there’s going to be some edge case situation that we can hide in that gives us some inherent advantage in recruiting some area or an overly easy division or whatever.
For now NU is a small market team committing to big market dollars. The question remains whether we will keep that up for the long haul and if it’ll be enough to overcome geography in this century.
I know nd makes us 10 million more as it is...but I wish the big 10 would stop trying to be their simp...
I understand geting cal stanford oregon and washington as far as academics and some sort of west coast pod...
but if that a 6 team pod that means the B1G will have to go to 24 schools..
to have 4, 6 team rotating pods...
so if only 4 is left, I would want houston, miami, clemson, and either nc or nd ...
that would make the recruiting footprint alot better.
I think we will end up with a power two, so it’s probably pretty likely we end up with 24. I have no idea how fast we get there. Could be next week at this pace. Could be several years.
Your list of schools is fine but I have no idea what kind of stomach the southeast schools would have for a northern conference. FSU keeps getting mentioned but I’m not sure how Free Shoes University is viewed academically. However if that’s one of our only shots in the Florida market we should take it.
Personally I’m not sure that Clemson is a long term must get. After the current coaching admin is done they could well wander the wilderness like we have for thirty years without being relevant. UNC would give us a similar footprint and is probably more long term stable owing to its basketball program in terms of relevance to athletes.
I just threw clemson in there cause lately I heard people talk about clemson and fsu to the B1G.
but for the last few years many seen them as sec...
you right about clemson...but they did pop up there and beat us for a nc in the early 80's (there's a good you tube video about that game, from a clemson perspective with coaches and players views..)
just make it houston #2 nation recruiting #4 tv pull
I'd go with miami over fsu cause miami is the #1 nation recruiting
then nc and nd....
but if nd has a attitude just plug smu (second best recruiting after houston in texas and dallas tv market) or fsu in their place...
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Can't say bad words anymore on the internet that might offend some people. **** you Rivals, **** you government.
As a Nebraskan in the Northwestern research field, I can attest to this in regard to the big money.
Also you’ll find it shocking/not shocking with how the hazing/sports scandals here are met on the Evanston campus
Another angle the BIG and SEC can take is to institute some type of profit sharing agreement with its players - they need to leverage the revenue advantage they have over the other conferences when it comes to talent acquisition. With NIL -facilities/swag/training tables etc aren’t as important as cash in athletes hands
If that happens wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of our games get dumped there if we don't improve immensely. NU has traditionally brought in a lot of eyes on TV
I would definitely want/take Clemson and FSU. I just feel like if given the choice they would prefer to be in the SEC and would be a better fit.
An institutions academics aren’t in any way related to the academic performance of its athletes
Did you know that Nebraska has more academic all Americans than Stanford and Notre Dame?
Hadn't heard that. They should really talk about it more or put it up in the stadium.
It’s not in the stadium it’s with in the athletic facility’s and in the Press Guide.
I was just messing around but I swore the number of academic all-americans was listed in the stadium. Must be wrong though. They also seem to mention how we have the most academic all-americans about every other timeout.
Yes, it’s posted on the east stadium balcony. Of note is that Nebraska Wesleyan is seventh all time.
I'm thinking that it's Arizona to the Big 12 and not the Big 10. If the Big 10 was offering, would an Arizona school say thanks, but no thanks?
USC trying to make “Texass like” demands as the enter a new conference. They’re gonna find out real quick that ain’t gonna fly in the B1G. “Not in Kansas anymore Toto”
No PAC school is turning down a BIG or SEC invite for the B12.
There are current long time B12 members begging for invites.
The big12 is the collection reservoir for teams that the BIG and SEC don’t want. All of them would leave tomorrow if an invite was extended.
That institution set up widespread academic fraud for it's athletes for decades and then tried to cover it up.
