Along with AZ & ASU to the Big 12...
Kind of hope they pass on Cal & Stanford
WSU and OSU gotta wonder what to do. How in the world did the PAC 10 fall apart so quickly?
Along with AZ & ASU to the Big 12...
Kind of hope they pass on Cal & Stanford
they don't want oregon recruiting so cal..or get beat by them
Yeah it really sucks for WSU, OSU. Not really fair that they'll get left out in the cold when you have teams like BYU, UCF, Purdue, Cincinnati, who will all fare better than them (presumably).I think once USC and UCLA decided to bolt that the process just gained momentum and is now like an unstoppable avalanche. Even thought Colorado stinks their departure had to be noticed as well. And the Washington and Oregon move to the B1G has also been in the rumor mill for a while. The whole thing just unraveled quickly.
I agree about WSU and OSU. They are screwed. I also wonder where Cal and Stanford will end up...
Agree, they have long rivalry games they have played for many decades between the three and joining the B1G extends playing those games to a certain extent..Yeah it really sucks for WSU, OSU. Not really fair that they'll get left out in the cold when you have teams like BYU, UCF, Purdue, Cincinnati, who will all fare better than them (presumably).
I don't really see what Cal brings at all besides academics. I do think the B1G is using Stanford as a chess piece to grab Notre Dame.
Who the hell knows at this point, it's moving so fast. But here's my prediction for how the B1G gets to 20. Not necessarily who I'd want... Would love to grab ASU and Utah, but it just doesn't seem like they are a priority for the B1G.
Totally agree. Cal is a big reason why the PAC is failing in the first place. The high hill they sit on needs to crumble. They don’t care about athletics and they look down their nose at people who do.If Cal and Stanford get in, I'm going to be pissed....Those schools bring absolutely nothing to this conference... And we've already got enough of those kinds of idiots in charge now...we don't need more.
Those pods look good, but the B1G would never separate Michigan and tOSU unless it‘s a locked in rivalry game..Yeah it really sucks for WSU, OSU. Not really fair that they'll get left out in the cold when you have teams like BYU, UCF, Purdue, Cincinnati, who will all fare better than them (presumably).
I don't really see what Cal brings at all besides academics. I do think the B1G is using Stanford as a chess piece to grab Notre Dame.
Who the hell knows at this point, it's moving so fast. But here's my prediction for how the B1G gets to 20. Not necessarily who I'd want... Would love to grab ASU and Utah, but it just doesn't seem like they are a priority for the B1G.
Pod set up works nicely if they went that route.
West: UW, UO, Stanford, USC, UCLA
Central: Nebraska, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois
Lakes: Michigan, MSU, Notre Dame, Purdue, Northwestern
East: OSU, Penn State, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland
I actually think going to 20-24 makes things easier than it is right now. At 16 teams, we play some teams every 4 years anyway and there's no good way to schedule the crossovers.Agree, they have long rivalry games they have played for many decades between the three and joining the B1G extends playing those games to a certain extent..
Than again ND might not be playing USC and Stanford every year unless they have couple of locked rivalry games..
Those pods look good, but the B1G would never separate Michigan and tOSU unless it‘s a locked in rivalry game..
I hope they add Cal and Stanford. Those are winnable games just like Purdue.If they add Cal, Stanford, Washington and Oregon, it seems inevitable that they add 4 more to get to 24 and have 4 divisions of 6 teams.
This is where I'm at. The idea of having a 20 team conference sucks for fans. At some point its easier to list who's NOT in it vs who is in. It already sucks IMHO.I just hope it stops with just Oregon and Washington..
Other wise it’s not even a conference anymore, it’s hardly conference with 16 teams playing each other every couple of years….
I hope they add Cal and Stanford. Those are winnable games just like Purdue.
Their athletic facilities are a dump.Totally agree. Cal is a big reason why the PAC is failing in the first place. The high hill they sit on needs to crumble. They don’t care about athletics and they look down their nose at people who do.
Yeah, talk about zero fit. Who cares about the others stuff.
Along with AZ & ASU to the Big 12...
Kind of hope they pass on Cal & Stanford
Think the B1G is trying to weaken USC by adding Oregon. Nike will always keep them competitive in recruiting.they don't want oregon recruiting so cal..or get beat by them
I don't care about their money being new or old, but I think you're spot on with the recruiting angle.Ugh was hoping FSU and Miami.. I don't mind Washington but not new money Oregon with their funny looking unis and zero national championships. Plus that doesn't help our California recruiting.
What would have made USC think they'd be the big dog in this league?
It's all about the money and recruiting has nothing to do with those decisions.I don't care about their money being new or old, but I think you're spot on with the recruiting angle.
No way. If they wanted to weaken USC they could have added Oregon right away. I think this is the result of the sudden demise of the Pac 12 and the Big 12 aggressively adding teams. Oregon and Washington were probably targeted by the Big 12 and don't want to join unless absolutely necessary so they are pressing the Big 10 to speed up their decision.Think the B1G is trying to weaken USC by adding Oregon. Nike will always keep them competitive in recruiting.
Right. In pro sports if you suck you get first pick at draft to try to keep parity. Ain't gonna work that way in cfb. Maybe ccg will be thing of the past eventually with expanded playoffsWhat's the point of having conferences if you have 24 teams? How are you going to determine which two teams play in the conference title game? Teams will go 4-5 years without playing certain other teams, assuming that rivalry games are protected every year.
Radio guys this morning were saying Cal and Stanford are being considered because they have a massive budget for academic research and development. Not every potential addition will be looked at through the singular lense of a TV deal
Eventually the "conferences" will be so big that your division will actually be your conference.What's the point of having conferences if you have 24 teams? How are you going to determine which two teams play in the conference title game? Teams will go 4-5 years without playing certain other teams, assuming that rivalry games are protected every year.
I doubt that, I don't think the B1G is pressed to add anyone right now. Oregon and Washington will only go to the B12 if there's nowhere else to go. Then would jump to the B1G from the B12 whenever they call. I assume they are vetting Oregon and Washington right now because they can't get an ACC teams as easily due to their grant of rights.No way. If they wanted to weaken USC they could have added Oregon right away. I think this is the result of the sudden demise of the Pac 12 and the Big 12 aggressively adding teams. Oregon and Washington were probably targeted by the Big 12 and don't want to join unless absolutely necessary so they are pressing the Big 10 to speed up their decision.