So now we are stuck with a state that busses its homeless people to other states and another that likes taking kids away from their parents, gross. Sound like they will fit right into the B1G weirdness so it should be fun.
Along with AZ & ASU to the Big 12...
Kind of hope they pass on Cal & Stanford
Unfortunately I think the conference power brokers still favor left coast and their enamored with themselvesI would prefer Clemson and FSU
💯 correctUnfortunately I think the conference power brokers still favor left coast and their enamored with themselves
Patience - you can add Miami as wellI would prefer Clemson and FSU
If it happens Nebraska should NOT be happy about it either.
The problem the ACC still has is the pay penalty. It’s an issue that’s going away anytime soon. A Florida State BOR said they need to get a bigger paycheck to complete annually but we are going to have to find some middle ground with the Grant of rights contract we are in.Patience
What would have made USC think they'd be the big dog in this league?
What’s the rush??? Wait till 2036 if you have to In order to grab the more coveted ACC schools.I doubt that, I don't think the B1G is pressed to add anyone right now. Oregon and Washington will only go to the B12 if there's nowhere else to go. Then would jump to the B1G from the B12 whenever they call. I assume they are vetting Oregon and Washington right now because they can't get an ACC teams as easily due to their grant of rights.
The only concessions they are owed are those that are explicitly detailed in a contract that is enforceable. They and anyone else who believes they are owed any noncontractyural concessions citing “respect” are idiotsThat’s probably what these B1G assholes said when we joined.
USC is a blue blood program and are bringing in revenue and prestige. They should be treated with respect and if they were promised concessions when they joined the conference, the conference should follow through.
Hillbillies don’t seem like a good fit in the Big Ten.I would prefer Clemson and FSU
The Clemson and FSU fans are a FAR FAR FAR more closer resemblance to Nebraska fans than any of the West Coast fanbases especially when just talking Oregon, Wash, Cal, Stanford.Hillbillies don’t seem like a good fit in the Big Ten.
The only concessions they are owed are those that are explicitly detailed in a contract that is enforceable. They and anyone else who believes they are owed any noncontractyural concessions citing “respect” are idiots
If it happens Nebraska should NOT be happy about it either.
Any Nebraska fan that wants to now also compete with Oregon for the West Coast recruits as another P2 school instead of them being in a 2nd tier league is very dumb.
Adding Oregon and Washington does nothing to increase revenue or recruiting base for Nebraska. It will shrink Nebraskas share of both if those 2 schools are added.
Holding out hope this is just a smoke screen for some reason to get ACC schools or Notre Dame
Anyone who is taking someone’s “word” in a multimillion dollar endeavor rather than having it contractually spelled out in great detail is a naive simpleton.Of course you would advocate being dishonest and going back on your word.
It’s ludicrous.What's the point of having conferences if you have 24 teams? How are you going to determine which two teams play in the conference title game? Teams will go 4-5 years without playing certain other teams, assuming that rivalry games are protected every year.
Tell us. How much is it going to cost any ACC team leaving the conference for the B1G or SEC?Anyone who is taking someone’s “word” in a multimillion dollar endeavor rather than having it contractually spelled out in great detail is a naive simpleton.
Not sure. FSU is running the math of the cost of staying in the ACC. ESPN has a contract with the ACC until ~ 2036. If they are due to make 20-30 million less per year than BIG schools (it could be more) they stand to lose at least 260 million dollars over that time span. The SEC is more difficult as ESPN is the primary partner of both the ACC and SEC so ESPN doesn’t really gain anything from a move from the ACC to the SEC and isn’t likely to up its payout. ESPN refused to increase its payout to the SEC if it added a 9th conf gameTell us. How much is it going to cost any ACC team leaving the conference for the B1G or SEC?
How often does a recruiting battle come down to NU vs. Oregon or Washington? But how much more attractive would a NU vs. Oregon or Washington game in Memorial Stadium be for hosting recruits from Texas or Colorado as compared to a NU vs. Indiana or Rutgers game? That is basically what NU would be doing. Replacing games against Eastern teams like Rutgers for these west coast teams.If it happens Nebraska should NOT be happy about it either.
Any Nebraska fan that wants to now also compete with Oregon for the West Coast recruits as another P2 school instead of them being in a 2nd tier league is very dumb.
Adding Oregon and Washington does nothing to increase revenue or recruiting base for Nebraska. It will shrink Nebraskas share of both if those 2 schools are added.
Holding out hope this is just a smoke screen for some reason to get ACC schools or Notre Dame
Well there you go..I even heard it could cost them even more than that…Not sure. FSU is running the math of the cost of staying in the ACC. ESPN has a contract with the ACC until ~ 2036. If they are due to make 20-30 million less per year than BIG schools (it could be more) they stand to lose at least 260 million dollars over that time span. The SEC is more difficult as ESPN is the primary partner of both the ACC and SEC so ESPN doesn’t really gain anything from a move from the ACC to the SEC and isn’t likely to up its payout. ESPN refused to increase its payout to the SEC if it added a 9th conf game
Yep.Well there you go..I even heard it could cost them even more than that…
Still think the Noles are in the B1G?🤫
It’s a no brainer if you follow recruiting and understand how important conference affiliation is.How often does a recruiting battle come down to NU vs. Oregon or Washington? But how much more attractive would a NU vs. Oregon or Washington game in Memorial Stadium be for hosting recruits from Texas or Colorado as compared to a NU vs. Indiana or Rutgers game? That is basically what NU would be doing. Replacing games against Eastern teams like Rutgers for these west coast teams.
Washington state and Oregon state need to start cozying up to the mountain west
You mentioned fsu.. some said was going to happen this week.. still feel confident about that?Washington state and Oregon state need to start cozying up to the mountain west
Gee that’s a no brainer.. Look for North Dakota St wanting to make a move for the MW playing FBS football..Washington state and Oregon state need to start cozying up to the mountain west
Yes, heard of him and I thought you might use him as an example. It just doesn't happen that often. I would argue playing games in Oregon and Washington would help recruiting in Arizona and California. And I would also argue that playing those 3 teams in Lincoln would help with recruiting kids from Texas, Kansas, or Colorado. If you are recruiting a kid like Brix would you rather bring him in for a game against Oregon or Maryland? How about Washington or Indiana?It’s a no brainer if you follow recruiting and understand how important conference affiliation is.
But since you seem to want a specific example. Have you heard of Brandon Baker? One of the reasons he would pick us over Oregon would be due to the massive uncertainty with their conference and future in potentially a 2nd tier league. They invite Oregon to the Bigten, makes his decision all the more easy. As well as for future 5 star players just like him.
I‘m not saying don’t invite good or strong programs. But invite programs that bring another recruiting base to the table, instead of teams that will just consistently beat you out for recruits in a great recruiting area you literally just got enhanced access to.
Why not the Big 12?Washington state and Oregon state need to start cozying up to the mountain west
It won’t be that quick. They are sewing discord publically in the ACC and Clemson/Miami are doing it behind the scenes. It takes 8 votes to dissolve the ACC GOR deal. That means that FSU/MIAMI/Clemson/VT decide they are better off in the BIG and UNC/NCST/UVA decide they are better off in the SEC and PITT and Louisville get scared and want to go to the B12 — the ACC is doneYou mentioned fsu.. some said was going to happen this week.. still feel confident about that?
Interesting…It won’t be that quick. They are sewing discord publically in the ACC and Clemson/Miami are doing it behind the scenes. It takes 8 votes to dissolve the ACC GOR deal. That means that FSU/MIAMI/Clemson/VT decide they are better off in the BIG and UNC/NCST/UVA decide they are better off in the SEC and PITT and Louisville get scared and want to go to the B12 — the ACC is done
The other scenario is that FOX/NBC/CBS could collectively decide to deal a big blow to ESPN by paying all our part of the FSU and or Clemson buyouts as they are the only 2 schools that drive value for ESPN in that conference
If that happens Virginia would end up in the B1G not SEC..Interesting…
I’ll certainly give you props if fsu ends up in the B1G. I’m hoping to give you props.
Interesting…
I’ll certainly give you props if fsu ends up in the B1G. I’m hoping to give you props.
That certainly could happen with UVA - the SEC and BIG really don’t care who gets UVA - they just want them to vote to end the GOR - heck those 2 conferences may collude to take turns selecting ACC schoolsIf that happens Virginia would end up in the B1G not SEC..
Hard to believe the ACC would fold..
Would be hilarious TV if Fox broadcasted it. "The ACC draft brought to you by Tostios". Big ten and SEC groups huddle at two tables and take turns drafting teams. and the ACC brass could do nothing about it. hahaha must watch tv.That certainly could happen with UVA - the SEC and BIG really don’t care who gets UVA - they just want them to vote to end the GOR - heck those 2 conferences may collude to take turns selecting ACC schools
I’d watchWould be hilarious TV if Fox broadcasted it. "The ACC draft brought to you by Tostios". Big ten and SEC groups huddle at two tables and take turns drafting teams. and the ACC brass could do nothing about it. hahaha must watch tv.
What does natural fit mean? Has unc and uva racked up more EpsteinAir miles?I still think Clemson and FSU are a more natural fit in the SEC and UNC and UVA a more natural fit in the Big 10.