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Sounds like Oregon & Washington to B1G is just about done.

Sounds like USC is not happy about it.

If it happens Nebraska should NOT be happy about it either.

Any Nebraska fan that wants to now also compete with Oregon for the West Coast recruits as another P2 school instead of them being in a 2nd tier league is very dumb.

Adding Oregon and Washington does nothing to increase revenue or recruiting base for Nebraska. It will shrink Nebraskas share of both if those 2 schools are added.

Holding out hope this is just a smoke screen for some reason to get ACC schools or Notre Dame
 
The problem the ACC still has is the pay penalty. It’s an issue that’s going away anytime soon. A Florida State BOR said they need to get a bigger paycheck to complete annually but we are going to have to find some middle ground with the Grant of rights contract we are in.
 
What would have made USC think they'd be the big dog in this league?

That’s probably what these B1G assholes said when we joined.

USC is a blue blood program and are bringing in revenue and prestige. They should be treated with respect and if they were promised concessions when they joined the conference, the conference should follow through.
 
I doubt that, I don't think the B1G is pressed to add anyone right now. Oregon and Washington will only go to the B12 if there's nowhere else to go. Then would jump to the B1G from the B12 whenever they call. I assume they are vetting Oregon and Washington right now because they can't get an ACC teams as easily due to their grant of rights.
What’s the rush??? Wait till 2036 if you have to In order to grab the more coveted ACC schools.

Big ten schools will be making 2-3x more than any school outside the SEC during that entire time ….there is ZERO REASON to rush into adding more schools.
 
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That’s probably what these B1G assholes said when we joined.

USC is a blue blood program and are bringing in revenue and prestige. They should be treated with respect and if they were promised concessions when they joined the conference, the conference should follow through.
The only concessions they are owed are those that are explicitly detailed in a contract that is enforceable. They and anyone else who believes they are owed any noncontractyural concessions citing “respect” are idiots
 
The only concessions they are owed are those that are explicitly detailed in a contract that is enforceable. They and anyone else who believes they are owed any noncontractyural concessions citing “respect” are idiots

Of course you would advocate being dishonest and going back on your word.
 
If it happens Nebraska should NOT be happy about it either.

Any Nebraska fan that wants to now also compete with Oregon for the West Coast recruits as another P2 school instead of them being in a 2nd tier league is very dumb.

Adding Oregon and Washington does nothing to increase revenue or recruiting base for Nebraska. It will shrink Nebraskas share of both if those 2 schools are added.

Holding out hope this is just a smoke screen for some reason to get ACC schools or Notre Dame

I fully admit that I'm probably alone on this but I'd rather watch Nebraska play elite teams as many weeks of the schedule as possible. I enjoy those games, win or lose, so much more than the boring ass gimme games. I was selfishly hoping Nebraska would play USC every single year simply because it's fun when historical powers play each other.
 
Of course you would advocate being dishonest and going back on your word.
Anyone who is taking someone’s “word” in a multimillion dollar endeavor rather than having it contractually spelled out in great detail is a naive simpleton.
 
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What's the point of having conferences if you have 24 teams? How are you going to determine which two teams play in the conference title game? Teams will go 4-5 years without playing certain other teams, assuming that rivalry games are protected every year.
It’s ludicrous.
 
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Anyone who is taking someone’s “word” in a multimillion dollar endeavor rather than having it contractually spelled out in great detail is a naive simpleton.
Tell us. How much is it going to cost any ACC team leaving the conference for the B1G or SEC?
 
Tell us. How much is it going to cost any ACC team leaving the conference for the B1G or SEC?
Not sure. FSU is running the math of the cost of staying in the ACC. ESPN has a contract with the ACC until ~ 2036. If they are due to make 20-30 million less per year than BIG schools (it could be more) they stand to lose at least 260 million dollars over that time span. The SEC is more difficult as ESPN is the primary partner of both the ACC and SEC so ESPN doesn’t really gain anything from a move from the ACC to the SEC and isn’t likely to up its payout. ESPN refused to increase its payout to the SEC if it added a 9th conf game

The BIG may negotiate 1 or 2 new media deals (current one runs through 2030) before the dud of the ACC contract is due
 
If it happens Nebraska should NOT be happy about it either.

Any Nebraska fan that wants to now also compete with Oregon for the West Coast recruits as another P2 school instead of them being in a 2nd tier league is very dumb.

Adding Oregon and Washington does nothing to increase revenue or recruiting base for Nebraska. It will shrink Nebraskas share of both if those 2 schools are added.

Holding out hope this is just a smoke screen for some reason to get ACC schools or Notre Dame
How often does a recruiting battle come down to NU vs. Oregon or Washington? But how much more attractive would a NU vs. Oregon or Washington game in Memorial Stadium be for hosting recruits from Texas or Colorado as compared to a NU vs. Indiana or Rutgers game? That is basically what NU would be doing. Replacing games against Eastern teams like Rutgers for these west coast teams.
 
Not sure. FSU is running the math of the cost of staying in the ACC. ESPN has a contract with the ACC until ~ 2036. If they are due to make 20-30 million less per year than BIG schools (it could be more) they stand to lose at least 260 million dollars over that time span. The SEC is more difficult as ESPN is the primary partner of both the ACC and SEC so ESPN doesn’t really gain anything from a move from the ACC to the SEC and isn’t likely to up its payout. ESPN refused to increase its payout to the SEC if it added a 9th conf game
Well there you go..I even heard it could cost them even more than that…

Still think the Noles are in the B1G?🤫
 
How often does a recruiting battle come down to NU vs. Oregon or Washington? But how much more attractive would a NU vs. Oregon or Washington game in Memorial Stadium be for hosting recruits from Texas or Colorado as compared to a NU vs. Indiana or Rutgers game? That is basically what NU would be doing. Replacing games against Eastern teams like Rutgers for these west coast teams.
It’s a no brainer if you follow recruiting and understand how important conference affiliation is.

But since you seem to want a specific example. Have you heard of Brandon Baker? One of the reasons he would pick us over Oregon would be due to the massive uncertainty with their conference and future in potentially a 2nd tier league. They invite Oregon to the Bigten, makes his decision all the more easy. As well as for future 5 star players just like him.

I‘m not saying don’t invite good or strong programs. But invite programs that bring another recruiting base to the table, instead of teams that will just consistently beat you out for recruits in a great recruiting area you literally just got enhanced access to.
 
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It’s a no brainer if you follow recruiting and understand how important conference affiliation is.

But since you seem to want a specific example. Have you heard of Brandon Baker? One of the reasons he would pick us over Oregon would be due to the massive uncertainty with their conference and future in potentially a 2nd tier league. They invite Oregon to the Bigten, makes his decision all the more easy. As well as for future 5 star players just like him.

I‘m not saying don’t invite good or strong programs. But invite programs that bring another recruiting base to the table, instead of teams that will just consistently beat you out for recruits in a great recruiting area you literally just got enhanced access to.
Yes, heard of him and I thought you might use him as an example. It just doesn't happen that often. I would argue playing games in Oregon and Washington would help recruiting in Arizona and California. And I would also argue that playing those 3 teams in Lincoln would help with recruiting kids from Texas, Kansas, or Colorado. If you are recruiting a kid like Brix would you rather bring him in for a game against Oregon or Maryland? How about Washington or Indiana?

The new commissioner is a former TV executive. I would hope he would be able to amend the existing deal if they are bringing in more teams to offset the extra split. Otherwise I have to imagine it would be a pretty tough sell.
 
You mentioned fsu.. some said was going to happen this week.. still feel confident about that?
It won’t be that quick. They are sewing discord publically in the ACC and Clemson/Miami are doing it behind the scenes. It takes 8 votes to dissolve the ACC GOR deal. That means that FSU/MIAMI/Clemson/VT decide they are better off in the BIG and UNC/NCST/UVA decide they are better off in the SEC and PITT and Louisville get scared and want to go to the B12 — the ACC is done

The other scenario is that FOX/NBC/CBS could collectively decide to deal a big blow to ESPN by paying all or part of the FSU and or Clemson buyouts as they are the only 2 schools that drive value for ESPN in that conference
 
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It won’t be that quick. They are sewing discord publically in the ACC and Clemson/Miami are doing it behind the scenes. It takes 8 votes to dissolve the ACC GOR deal. That means that FSU/MIAMI/Clemson/VT decide they are better off in the BIG and UNC/NCST/UVA decide they are better off in the SEC and PITT and Louisville get scared and want to go to the B12 — the ACC is done

The other scenario is that FOX/NBC/CBS could collectively decide to deal a big blow to ESPN by paying all our part of the FSU and or Clemson buyouts as they are the only 2 schools that drive value for ESPN in that conference
Interesting…

I’ll certainly give you props if fsu ends up in the B1G. I’m hoping to give you props.
 
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Interesting…

I’ll certainly give you props if fsu ends up in the B1G. I’m hoping to give you props.
If that happens Virginia would end up in the B1G not SEC..

Hard to believe the ACC would fold..
That certainly could happen with UVA - the SEC and BIG really don’t care who gets UVA - they just want them to vote to end the GOR - heck those 2 conferences may collude to take turns selecting ACC schools
 
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That certainly could happen with UVA - the SEC and BIG really don’t care who gets UVA - they just want them to vote to end the GOR - heck those 2 conferences may collude to take turns selecting ACC schools
Would be hilarious TV if Fox broadcasted it. "The ACC draft brought to you by Tostios". Big ten and SEC groups huddle at two tables and take turns drafting teams. and the ACC brass could do nothing about it. hahaha must watch tv.
 
While culturally NU doesn't closely fit Michigan, Pennsylvania or Ohio, it's still a much closer fit than NU with CA or OR. It's like when we play Rutgers or Virginia. NU looks at them and they look at us and neither side knows what to make of the other. With CA and OR, even moreso.
 
The big 12 is collecting all the undesirables. UW/OU were always destined for the P2. Getting there a bit earlier than expected as the rest of the P12 dissolves. I’m not sure they will be brought in as full payout members, however
 
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