Exactly. The Big 10 controls the narrative. The SEC has the better product but the Big 10 has the population and alumni, therefore the money.
SIAP: More Big Ten Expansion
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USC and UCLA joining the B1G makes zero sense. None.
Depends on what criteria you're using to judge whether the outcome is successful or not. Makes sense from a TV eyeballs perspective because LA is a huge market with lots of B1G alums living there. B!G teams facing off against the well-known names of USC/UCLA also will draw big ratings back in the historical B1G footprint. Obviously using a different set of criteria though (eg. the cross country travel requirements) not so much sense.
Eh, it's the 21st century. Travel not a big deal for football money
For a bunch of 18 to 22 year olds trying to play school it’s ridiculous. 95%+ of these guys are never going to play football after college. The B1G is already making an insane amount of money without subjecting their players to crazy cross country plane rides. In this age of supposed environmental concern it’s a joke. It’s completely illogical on multiple fronts.
I don't think for football players at least, the travel is that bad at all. I'd rather take a chartered airline flight to LA than a bus ride to Ames. How long does a direct charter flight from Lincoln to LA take these days? Now for non-football sports, yes it may be more of an issue.
P.S. Another benefit of course with the LA teams is that future recruiting should be a bit easier in Southern California.
A bus ride to Ames is a couple of hours. A plane ride to LA or Rutgers involves a bus ride to the airport, then security, then boarding and taxiing, then getting your bag etc etc. NU is in a better spot than many B1G teams to go west but damn. I’ve made that trip many times but even with a nonstop it’s exhausting.
Oregon has Nike money behind and Washington does not lacked funding. There are many rich and powerful Husky Alumni. Washington prep sports are very good. There are numerous FBS quality athletes coming out of the state every year. There are amazing amount of NBA players from Seattle. Jamal Crawford, Michigan, Jason Terry, Arizona and Zach LaVine, UCLA, all are from the Seattle area, Hailey Van Lith is from Wenatchee and the excellent distance runner for Okie State Taylor Roe is from another Seattle suburb. Nebraska's Adam Carriker is from Richland.
True, which is why I think sooner than later the B1G and SEC will pull away from ncaa and form their own league of sorts with little to no more playing school lol.
If someone offered me the choice between a free jet ride from Lincoln to LA or a bus ride to Ames, I'd still pick the LA jet ride.
And I think the prospect of going to LA to play football games vs. going to Ames would also be more attractive to potential football recruits.
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I think it makes total sense. Expansion is happening either way. Get the teams you want and figure out the rest later. They will have 4 or 5 road games a year. Subtract off when they play each other. They already had CU in their conference. Google says an extra 50 minutes for a flight from LA to Omaha vs. LA to Seattle. I'm guessing they play 3 road games every 2 years max against eastern division opponents. Not a big deal.
Personally I don’t want Pac12 teams and the B1G doesn’t need them.
The question to USC/UCLA was would you be willing to travel east on a regular basis for an extra 60 million per year
The question to the BIG schools was would be willing to travel west on occasion for an extra 30 million per year each
The answer in both cases was an emphatic YE$
The upcoming media deal was negotiated with USC and UCLA factored in
There is also talk of a Midwest campus for those schools to ease the travel burden
So when is UC-Indianapolis going to open? 🤔
To expensive? It’s like 13 years at 30 some million there is no way in hell the big or Sec is paying that.
Big 10 universities have been around for what, 150+ years? 13 years is nothing.
Shared campus where athletic teams go stay for 1-2 weeks and play their away games - classes on zoom/recorded - then return to LA for a stretch of home games
In a 9 game conf schedule with 4 away conf games - that would mean only 2 trips east
I feel like the 49ers have done that when there schedule rotation is against one of the East Divisions and they request back-to-back road games. Can't remember where they stayed.
They actually do need them because the SEC is more attractive to schools like UT, OU, etc. So if you have a chance to get a blueblood in a new TV market which happens to be one of the largest in the country, then you take them. The Big 10's history in Cali only sweetens the deal.
Expansion is happening either way. Better to get some good teams and not see the SEC run away with the expansion wars.
I agree with this. I assume the players go through private security. All their stuff is transported for them except they have a small carryon like a backpack. Three hour chartered direct flight that is good uninterrupted study time if they want to study. Not much different than flying to Ann Arbor in my book.
It’s going to end up with divisions again with NU flying to the west coast 3 times per year ATLEAST.
We may eventually only have these megaconferences in football +/- mens basketball with the remaining sports reverting back to regional groupings or conferences
Crazy to think the Big XII may end up stabalizing more than the PAC and ACC. Unless the remaining ACC members formed into a coast to coast merger with the pac?
The big12 is a collection of undesirables, none of which the BIG or SEC is interested. Thus stability. Any of those schools would jump ship in a second if they had the opportunity
What makes the ACC and PAC unstable is the fact that several of their schools are on the Big2s radar
I think that would be the point where I dismiss college football as nothing more than minor league pro football and simply watch the NFL only.
Eventually, players will not even have to enroll. They will be employee/contractors of incorporated athletic departments. And the presidents/chancellors of the strong academic universities will be delighted to get them off campus.
Sssshhhhhh..... don't tell Kong. He thinks USC and UCLA are going back to the Pac 12 because of the possible $3 million reduction per team in the Big 10 contract.
I still believe the PAC is going to collapse, it's just a matter of how soon. They're just not going to get the media money needed to keep up with the college football arms race. Compounding the situation is that the media giants right now are trying to cut costs so they don't feel like giving the PAC an overblown contract either.
When the NU President is predicting further B1G expansion I'm guessing the B1G is predicting the PAC is going to collapse and there are contingency agreements to take in Oregon and Washington if/when that happens. All it takes is another defection from the PAC to start the dominos.
Big 10 and SEC have their share of undesirables as well. There is in all leagues.
The thing about it is let's just say the big 12 starts. Having teams get into championchips and head success versus big 10 and SEC. In 5 years. The whole outlook looks a lot different.
Yes but they are already legacy members of one of the power 2 conferences and aren’t going to be kicked out.
The BIG and SEC are picking off the gems of the other power 5 conferences and those conferences are having to backfill with G5 schools.
The B1G has Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana, and Northwestern as it's undesirables and the SEC has Vanderbilt, Missouri, Kentucky, and South Carolina as it's undesirables.
Please don’t put words in my mouth like you did with the UCLA AD
It’s unbecoming of someone who seems like they want to be taken seriously
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Yet again, quite a bit of room between what I actually said vs what he claims I said
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@Huskers123456:
Yet again, quite a bit of room between what I actually said vs what he claims I said
How could anyone trust anything he ever types?
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