Riley didn't come here to win

[Archie Graham]

No it doesn't. It gets rid of an underperforming coach who is dragging the program down. It also lets the coaching world know that Nebraska is looking for GREAT coaches, and if you are a great coach and want to get rich ($$$)... then this is the place for you.

Keeping underperforming coaches, lets the whole world know we don't care about winning and great coaching... and may in affect attract coaches who are more interested in money than winning.

I am 100% behind our head coach and I hope he can get us where we want to be. But with that said... our coaching hiring process is a disaster.

You're also wrong. It's staggering to see how many of you guys don't get it.

I'm a rising coach so I've got options. All places will make me very wealthy and plenty have advantages like Nebraska. Should I go to the one that has a record of giving me time to establish my program or the place that axed a veteran I respect after a year (when he inherited a depleted roster from the guy before him hat was canned). Chuckle. Chuckle.

 

[LBremser]

Unless your speaking of his house still in Oregon? Which brings up another point, why still hold onto it if you committed 100% here. Yes I know he has kids there. You can't tell me you don't think he will be back in Oregon withing 5 years one way or another

Dude, give it up. His wife is living in the house in Oregon until they move into the Lincoln home later this month. They bought the lot next door to the house in Lincoln also, maybe with plans to build a place for one of the kids. You tried to make a big deal about the fact that he hasn't bought a place in Lincoln, he now has a home and a lot.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

Yeah, it said nothing about 2 houses? Where is his second house.

In Lincoln.

Unless your speaking of his house still in Oregon? Which brings up another point, why still hold onto it if you committed 100% here. Yes I know he has kids there. You can't tell me you don't think he will be back in Oregon withing 5 years one way or another

Although not positive, I'm pretty sure he's keeping his house in Corvallis, that's where he'll end up retiring with another home he already has in Texas.

It doesn't matter what I tell you, you still question it for whatever stupid reason.

 

[SEMO_yogi]

Firing a highly respected veteran HC after a year or two is a fantastic way to ensure nobody takes the Nebraska job seriously ever again.

Right...as if nobody is taking us seriously now. Give me a break.

 

[husker2612]

As if you really needed to tell me that you don't care about how you present yourself. That's quite evident.

Again I really don't. Your not my boss, my wife, my kids, my friends or anyone else of great importance for that matter., They are the only ones that matter, everyone else opinions.... water under the bridge. Again thanks for your meaningful contribution to the conversation

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

They bought the lot next door to the house in Lincoln also

Thanks for the correction. I assumed it was two separate houses, not lots next to each other, as they had different addresses. My bad for assuming but the point still remains, thanks again.

 

[husker2612]

Thanks for the correction. I assumed it was two separate houses, not lots next to each other, as they had different addresses. My bad for assuming but the point still remains, thanks again.

Ok, I stand corrected. Like I said I have no problem people disagreeing with me and proving me wrong. As long as they are respectful doing so and provide valid information to their argument.

 

[Archie Graham]

Right...as if nobody is taking us seriously now. Give me a break.

Nobody or anybody?

 

[Hoosker Du]

Again I really don't. Your not my boss, my wife, my kids, my friends or anyone else of great importance for that matter., They are the only ones that matter, everyone else opinions.... water under the bridge. Again thanks for your meaningful contribution to the conversation

"Your?" Like I said, not concerned about how you present yourself. I'm all in on a rebellious attitude, but not when it makes me look like a regular at the DMV.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

Ok, I stand corrected. Like I said I have no problem people disagreeing with me and proving me wrong. As long as they are respectful doing so and provide valid information to their argument.

There's no disagreement, you didn't know and I informed you. You later linked an article, where it clearly stated he bought a house, and still questioned why he was living at the Embassy although the article also clearly stated why he was.

 

[husker2612]

"Your?" Like I said, not concerned about how you present yourself. I'm all in on a rebellious attitude, but not when it makes me look like a regular at the DMV.

Obviously you are concerned with how I present myself, for whatever reason. Hence why you continue to comment, not?
I understand having no other argument to attack me on so you went for the age old attack on spelling and what not. That is the safety value to many, who can not come up with any other logical argument to disagree with a poster. Well done

 

[SEMO_yogi]

Nobody or anybody?

Your arrogance is breath taking, buddy.

 

[Nebraska Gator II]

You're also wrong. It's staggering to see how many of you guys don't get it.

I'm a rising coach so I've got options. All places will make me very wealthy and plenty have advantages like Nebraska. Should I go to the one that has a record of giving me time to establish my program or the place that axed a veteran I respect after a year (when he inherited a depleted roster from the guy before him hat was canned). Chuckle. Chuckle.

If you have a program that has won 9-10 games a year and then has a significant drop off with a .500 career coach...Nebraska can admit the mistake and move in a different direction.

Some of you have a loser mentality. Nebraska is a top job in the country...just like Notre Dame, just like Michigan. Nebraska would not have any problem luring high quality coaches. Nebraska has resources to compete with most programs. There is no excuse for crappy football seasons. You fired the last guy that won at least 9 games a year, EVERY year. I hear the nonsense about embarrassing losses on national tv. For those with selective memory...TO took it on the chin a few times on TV also. Bo was fired because he was an arse and was embarrassing for Nebraskan's.

 

[Archie Graham]

Your arrogance is breath taking, buddy.

You are free to explain how my perspective is misguided.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Obviously you are concerned with how I present myself, for whatever reason. Hence why you continue to comment, not?
I understand having no other argument to attack me on so you went for the age old attack on spelling and what not. That is the safety value to many, who can not come up with any other logical argument to disagree with a poster. Well done

See, that's where you are wrong. There are plenty of other topics to discuss. I didn't mention your moronic premise that 'Riley didn't come here to win' because I was being kind. I didn't mention your moronic polls because I was being kind. I didn't mention your moronic remedial level posts in general....because I was being kind. Hopefully this clears things up for you.

 

[SEMO_yogi]

You are free to explain how my perspective is misguided.

What, your perspective as grammar queen?

 

[mgbreis]

I have zero problem with the OP or anyone else questioning Riley's coaching ability or doubting his odds for success. Believe me, I was screaming "dumbshit!" at the TV just like everyone else when we threw on 3rd and 4th. But to say that he came here to cash checks until he's fired and that he didn't come here to win is fantasy fiction that I seriously doubt you even believe yourself. C'mon man. He came here because he can see the end of his career on the horizon and this was his last, best chance to try to win something big. I still think he has a chance, but I also think when he got here he was probably shocked at our dumpster fire of a roster.

Whatever the record ends up this year, ultimately it's irrelevant beyond whatever he can instill in the young players. Recruit, recruit, recruit. We win the next 4 games and all the whiners will think Riley's the reincarnation of Lombardi.

 

[husker2612]

See, that's where you are wrong. There are plenty of other topics to discuss. I didn't mention your moronic premise that 'Riley didn't come here to win' because I was being kind. I didn't mention your moronic polls because I was being kind. I didn't mention your moronic remedial level posts in general....because I was being kind. Hopefully this clears things up for you.

No, go ahead enlighten me. Unlike some I am a grown up and have tough skin. Let me hear everything you think is moronic, be specific and also state your facts for thinking said polls and topics are moronic. Just stating something is moronic with out providing validated proof for the statement is kind of silly not? So go ahead

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

If you have a program that has won 9-10 games a year and then has a significant drop off with a .500 career coach...Nebraska can admit the mistake and move in a different direction.

Strongly disagree after 1 season, strongly disagree.

 

[BetterRed]

I never caught all the episodes of the X-Files, but this sure resembles a great plot for it. Sure you didn't copy it somewhere??

 

[Hoosker Du]

No, go ahead enlighten me. Unlike some I am a grown up and have tough skin. Let me hear everything you think is moronic, be specific and also state your facts for thinking said polls and topics are moronic. Just stating something is moronic with out providing validated proof for the statement is kind of silly not? So go ahead

The very fact that you are asking me to state facts on a subjective topic such as this should give you your first clue as to why I think your posts are not very thought-provoking..

 

[husker2612]

I never caught all the episodes of the X-Files, but this sure resembles a great plot for it. Sure you didn't copy it somewhere??

I have got all kinds

The very fact that you are asking me to state facts on a subjective topic such as this should give you your first clue as to why I think your posts are not very thought-provoking..

Thank you for proving my point. Don't ever join anything or get a job where you have to convince someone of your point of view. You are not good at it. Thanks for entertaining me for a hour or so. Later

 

[leodisflowers]

Strongly disagree after 1 season, strongly disagree.

Not trolling Tim, and I agree he should have more than 1 year, but is there something you are seeing that gives you indication he will turn this thing around? I think if he adapts he might actually have a shot, but I just don't know if that is going to happen. I know it also gets repetitive, but my wife is an Oregon State alum, and I worked with OSU (75 people +) alums for almost 8 years on the west coast, and the things they bitched about have all happened at Nebraska. I'm all for giving the guy a shot, but I think I might just be missing something on him giving us any promise to return to a respectable level. So far I really like the following:

1. So much better PR wise.
2. Seems to have big name recruits interested, and the lower tier ones he finds the like of Michigan and others offer after the fact.
3. Whether it is Riley or his staff, I like the fact that the QB position seems to be progressing, although the Illinois game was tough.

Time will tell I suppose.

 

[Husker Psycho]

You're also wrong. It's staggering to see how many of you guys don't get it.

I'm a rising coach so I've got options. All places will make me very wealthy and plenty have advantages like Nebraska. Should I go to the one that has a record of giving me time to establish my program or the place that axed a veteran I respect after a year (when he inherited a depleted roster from the guy before him hat was canned). Chuckle. Chuckle.

I've never said fire him after 1 year. I have always said that 3 years is the magic number. We will know everything we need to know about M Riley at that point.

 

[Hoosker Du]

I have got all kinds

Thank you for proving my point. Don't ever join anything or get a job where you have to convince someone of your point of view. You are not good at it. Thanks for entertaining me for a hour or so. Later

Once again, you just don't get it. There's a big surprise..

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

Not trolling Tim, and I agree he should have more than 1 year, but is there something you are seeing that gives you indication he will turn this thing around?

Nothing specific, as mentioned in a different thread, I'll evaluate after two seasons as that's a good indicator for me. It's no different than what I did with Callahan, no different than what I did with Peelini and it's only right to do the same with Riley. I'm very disappointed with the no action, at least as of this post, towards Lewis as I really felt coach Riley had a chance here to make a statement to the team.

As far as your OSU comments, there are no guarantees outside of Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. I can list numerous coaches that were successful elsewhere and didn't do so hot at their next stop. Strong, Graham (Pitt), Hoke, Rodriguez, Erickson (ASU), Leach, Price, Petersen, (June) Jones, Beliema, and Franchione are a few to name.

 

[BetterRed]

It just sounds to conspiracy theorish.........if that's a word or phrase. It's your opinion, so it is what it is. Many, like me, thinks your argument is a bit out there. I like to think he came here to be part of a better program with better facilities. And perhaps he felt going somewhere that's actually had success was a good opportunity. Who knows what was going on at Oregon State. Maybe he was on the hot seat and the timing was impeccable. But whether he has a house here or not, I certainly wouldn't interpret that as anything. Rick Majerus never had a house in Utah, I don't believe.

 

[leodisflowers]

Nothing specific, as mentioned in a different thread, I'll evaluate after two seasons as that's a good indicator for me. It's no different than what I did with Callahan, no different than what I did with Peelini and it's only right to do the same with Riley. I'm very disappointed with the no action, at least as of this post, towards Lewis as I really felt coach Riley had a chance here to make a statement to the team.

As far as your OSU comments, there are no guarantees outside of Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. I can list numerous coaches that were successful elsewhere and didn't do so hot at their next stop. Strong, Graham (Pitt), Hoke, Rodriguez, Erickson (ASU), Leach, Price, Petersen, (June) Jones, Beliema, and Franchione are a few to name.

Fair enough. I agree on Lewis, as that was an opportunity on a silver platter.

 

[Gretz]

Firing a highly respected veteran HC after a year or two is a fantastic way to ensure nobody takes the Nebraska job seriously ever again.

No coach in their right mind would take the job knowing that a below average season (or two) could very well get them the axe.

Firing two 9 win coaches a little over a decade apart will work too.

 

[Archie Graham]

What, your perspective as grammar queen?

I was honestly asking you because I wasn't sure which you meant. What I said in response was going to depend on what you meant. That was it.

 

[Archie Graham]

I've never said fire him after 1 year. I have always said that 3 years is the magic number. We will know everything we need to know about M Riley at that point.

It has to be a horrendous three years with other systemic problems (e.g., massive recruiting failure and/or organization). Otherwise, I think my point remains.

 

[Archie Graham]

Firing two 9 win coaches a little over a decade apart will work too.

They landed at Ohio and YSU with no other serious offers. Nuff said.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

They landed at Ohio and YSU with no other serious offers. Nuff said.

 

[HuskerO]

For those with selective memory...TO took it on the chin a few times on TV also. Bo was fired because he was an arse and was embarrassing for Nebraskan's.

Who did TO take it on the chin from? An 8-5 Minnesota team? An 8-5 Iowa team? An 8-6 Wisconsin team? A 6-7 Northwestern team? If TO took it on the chin it was against Top 5 rated teams in the country, something 99% of fans can stomach.

You fired the last guy that won at least 9 games a year, EVERY year.

Since Bo was so great why didn't any FBS program hire him? Why didn't Florida grab such a great coach?

 

[bigboxes]

Who did TO take it on the chin from? An 8-5 Minnesota team? An 8-5 Iowa team? An 8-6 Wisconsin team? A 6-7 Northwestern team? If TO took it on the chin it was against Top 5 rated teams in the country, something 99% of fans can stomach.


Since Bo was so great why didn't any FBS program hire him? Why didn't Florida grab such a great coach?

Maybe it's because Florida has higher goals than 9 wins a year. Maybe Florida actually disciplines their head football coach when he gets out of line. Maybe Florida goal is to win the conference and advance to the playoffs. With Pelini at the helm that just isn't possible. But hey, a Florida fan can lecture Husker fans on who they should keep as coach. After all, we must be realistic since we are just a flyover state.

 

[jflores]

Nothing specific, as mentioned in a different thread, I'll evaluate after two seasons as that's a good indicator for me. It's no different than what I did with Callahan, no different than what I did with Peelini and it's only right to do the same with Riley. I'm very disappointed with the no action, at least as of this post, towards Lewis as I really felt coach Riley had a chance here to make a statement to the team.

As far as your OSU comments, there are no guarantees outside of Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. I can list numerous coaches that were successful elsewhere and didn't do so hot at their next stop. Strong, Graham (Pitt), Hoke, Rodriguez, Erickson (ASU), Leach, Price, Petersen, (June) Jones, Beliema, and Franchione are a few to name.

This is the boat I'm in. I'd be happy if any number of guys came here as they all have differing reasons as to why we could reasonably see success. Frost would have tickled most fans Husker hearts more than most, but we have to realize that there was significant risk on that front as well. We weren't getting Saban or Meyer, so I'd kinda settled myself in for, we're going to wait and see what the new guy does for a few years.

 

[jflores]

If you have a program that has won 9-10 games a year and then has a significant drop off with a .500 career coach...Nebraska can admit the mistake and move in a different direction.

Some of you have a loser mentality. Nebraska is a top job in the country...just like Notre Dame, just like Michigan. Nebraska would not have any problem luring high quality coaches. Nebraska has resources to compete with most programs. There is no excuse for crappy football seasons. You fired the last guy that won at least 9 games a year, EVERY year. I hear the nonsense about embarrassing losses on national tv. For those with selective memory...TO took it on the chin a few times on TV also. Bo was fired because he was an arse and was embarrassing for Nebraskan's.

Like HTO and arch, disagree.

We'd already heard from a top coach, Urban Meyer when he did the NU/UM telecast that in coaching circles, what NU did to Solich turned heads. If NU goes to fire Mike Riley before "due process", it won't be like firing Bo Pelini where you could just say the guy is obviously a dick, and oh yah he hasn't won anything hardware wise. Riley is almost a patron saint among the national media and coaching circles. If NU is perceived as not giving him among all people, a fair shake, combined with the Solich debacle where we already turned heads with a statement, we're not exactly sure who we'd attract in the face of national ire.

Lets be real, NU has a bit of money to spend, and any up and coming coach worth his salt who is looking for a Ferrari and a payday will probably give us a whirl. Heck, dudes sit on flaming balls of fire to get into space for way less money.

But among the elite, established coaches, they aren't going to be hurting for a payday no matter where they go, and unless they have a burning desire to resurrect this particular blue blood, there is really no over riding reason for them to put up with a 1 and done attitude here.

If we can be even more real, look at all the candidates that NU had over the last few coaching searches. Such elite names as Callahan on the 5th offer or whatever it was, Houston Nutt, reportedly Bielema, Gill, Grobe. Hardly a whose who of coaching lists. We can do better, but it should be at least a little telling that in three coaching searches over 15 years, not one really big coach has stepped up to the plate in a legitimate rumor mill at a minimum, let alone interviewing or setting terms or whatever.

 

[Nebraska Gator II]

Since Bo was so great why didn't any FBS program hire him? Why didn't Florida grab such a great coach?

I never said Bo was great. He is heads and shoulders more successful as a head coach than Riley according to win/loss record. I have said that a divorce from Bo was necessary.

My point is this. If this coaching staff were to go 4-8 or 5-7 and the last coach was 4-5 games better than that with similar talent (I know AA was terrific and Gregory was pretty good) against a very poor schedule...that should raise red flags about this coaching staff. The same flags that are raised when you look at his last 5 years as a head coach.

HuskerTim is holding off judgment and that is probably the prudent thing to do...I on the other hand think Riley was a huge mistake and am not able to see past my own bias. So far, Riley is who I thought he was.

 

[Nebraska Gator II]

Maybe it's because Florida has higher goals than 9 wins a year. Maybe Florida actually disciplines their head football coach when he gets out of line. Maybe Florida goal is to win the conference and advance to the playoffs. With Pelini at the helm that just isn't possible. But hey, a Florida fan can lecture Husker fans on who they should keep as coach. After all, we must be realistic since we are just a flyover state.

Florida's goals are probably not so different than Nebraska's. I don't understand the flyover state reference...did I miss something?

 

[Harry Caray]

Of course Riley wants to win. Whether he has the ability to win is another question.

I do think if Riley had won 9-10 games the last few years at Oregon State, he'd still be there. I have to think that the media and fans calling for Banker's head had something to do with him leaving. He did not want to have to fire his buddy.

Riley will not survive multiple losing seasons here. Coaches at blue-blood schools almost never do. Auburn fans want to fire Malzahn 2 years after a National Championship appearance (they did the same thing to Chizik). Hopefully it never comes to this for Riley. If it does, it's ridiculous to say that no good coach would come here. Money talks, and we have more money than most programs with more Big Ten money on the way. But for some reason, we have went cheap on the last couple of hires....and ironically it will end up costing us more in the long run with buyouts and waning fan support.