RIH! Manson gone to hell @ 83, nfm
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It doesn't bother me as much as if I accidentally step on an insect, or run over an innocent animal.
Oh I get it now, you feel less sorry about his life that the life of a bug or animal. Human is human whether you like the human or not.
So, human is more important, whether they kill mercilessly. Got it.
Makes no sense, but got it.
Don't worry, you don't have to have a pos death on your thoughts, many others would be willing instead.
Will never understand this popular new way of thinking.
I'll never understand the new way of thinking, in which we should keep people(who are proven murders) in prison for 50 years. That's a far more mind blowing idea.
In the case where you have a lifer willing to kill again, it's about preventing them from taking other lives and in many cases the life of a prison guard with a family. It isn't all revenge
Yeah, that's not correct.
Im not a vegan, not against hunting, etc. but humans do not deserve to be on a pedestal, quite the contrary.
Well fortunately we are on a pedestal so you better get over it.
God views people's lives above all other life on earth.
If you do not believe in a Creator then all life is theoretically equal.
However if you do not believe in a Creator then there is no right or wrong, everything is subject to how you feel. So it's not bad to think man is above all other life.....because bad and good in an uncreated universe are subjective. Therefore not objectively small minded to think man above all else at all.
2nd law of thermal dynamics pretty much lays it out that everything will die due to energy(our sun eventually) will even itself out amongst all the area of the known(and unknown) expanding universe. We are doomed in other words. So what difference does it make to be bad or good? Those are also doomed to nothing....in an uncreated universe.
Only in a Created universe do you have meaning and purpose in order to get value and objective stances on any social behavior.
If you do not believe in a Creator then all life is theoretically equal.
However if you do not believe in a Creator then there is no right or wrong, everything is subject to how you feel. So it's not bad to think man is above all other life.....because bad and good in an uncreated universe are subjective. Therefore not objectively small minded to think man above all else at all.
2nd law of thermal dynamics pretty much lays it out that everything will die due to energy(our sun eventually) will even itself out amongst all the area of the known(and unknown) expanding universe. We are doomed in other words. So what difference does it make to be bad or good? Those are also doomed to nothing....in an uncreated universe.
Only in a Created universe do you have meaning and purpose in order to get value and objective stances on any social behavior.
How so? I don't care if you value one thing over another, but we are no better.
Sadly, there isnt imo.If the only thing keeping you from doing wrong, is the thought of a vengeful God, I don't know what to tell you...
Edited to add imo, because I don't know anymore than anyone.
Oh yeah? What about doing the right thing for love of God and those around me instead of fearing punishment.
There are only two places in life, with God or without. You actually choose to not be with God with every decision you make. You either say your will be done to God, or He says your will be done and away you go to follow Satan and all his angels. Well...hell was made for him and his angels, not man, but if that's who you follow, and make no mistake following mans way IS following Satan, then that is where the path leads.
When* I obey it is because I love God, not because I fear Him, although I do that as well.
Thank God He provided a way to eternal life beyond this doomed universe. Thank you Jesus!!!
That's not why at all. The reason not to do wrong is to not offend an all loving Creator. Not out of fear of punishment.
.22 prices have gone up. Would have been a solid .15 cents.
I just choose not to do wrong because I know it's not right.
Would you want that to be done to you or your loved ones? No? Well there you go.
That is the definition of SUBJECTIVE!!!! Subject to how you feel. You never answered the question.
What if I feel like eating my family!!!? According to your morals it's ok to eat yours too then!!!
so the only thing keeping you from eating people is your love of God? Well then you are crazy and will not care what "objectively" is wrong.
I would also like to say however we should take care of other life because it also takes care of us...such as cows and such. I would hate to live in a world where the only life is man, because then we truly would have to eat one another...
Chuck Manson finally fulfilling his destiny, starting a conversation about good and evil/morality, humanity's place on earth, the death penalty and God's existence/role in life all on a Husker message board.
Edit to include, a conversation I actually found really interesting.
Edit to include, a conversation I actually found really interesting.
No it's about appropriate punishment. It's making a statement that there are some acts that are just above and beyond what society feels is acceptable. Again, I don't advocate it for everyone. I advocate it for the worst of worst and Manson was on that list.
John Joubert, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Bundy, Charles Starkweather, etc, etc, they deserved it.
I'll shed no tears and will sleep well at night if/when Nikko Jenkins and Anthony Garcia are put to death.
Omar Mateen the Orlando night club shooter, Robert Hawkins, the Omaha Von Maur shooter, Steven Paddock the Las Vegas shooter, etc, etc, had they lived, would have deserved to have the death penalty sought as punishment.
Would you have preferred that the Navy Seals captured Osama Bin Laden, vs go in and kill him?
Sorry but I won't jump on the anti-death penalty side because I need it to feel better about myself.
You have a point, but to that, I'm pretty sure I read a study recently that the percentage of cases has dropped dramatically over the years, and are much more selective about the cases they seek it for.
Don’t suppose there will be an earth burial and even if there was the location wouldn’t be revealed. The people lined up to piss on this turd’s grave would be endless!
