Can't really remember if it was this thread or another, but to quote Arnold;
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Respect
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"You'll be back!"
This has to be a troll, but I'll oblige because it's fun.
Oklahoma is a blue blood. Iowa is not, so you get less respect. Win a national championship and we may have to re-assess your position in college football. That's to say, you've been at the firm a quarter and you're complaining that you haven't been asked to become a partner.
Well, I respect any team that has the mindset that Iowa has. Tough, physical running game...and a defense that is also physical and wants to stop the run first and foremost.
I have also said on more than one occasion that Ferentz is/was a better coach than Pelini was. He takes recruiting classes that aren't anywhere on the radar, and generally turns them into decent teams. With a good QB, this has turned into an excellent team.
I don't understand all of the bravado from our fans. Just 2 games ago, we were ready to run Riley out of town. I'm much more confident than I was 3 weeks ago, but the team is still far from where we need to be to act this confidently. We still don't even really know which team is going to show up.
I have also said on more than one occasion that Ferentz is/was a better coach than Pelini was. He takes recruiting classes that aren't anywhere on the radar, and generally turns them into decent teams. With a good QB, this has turned into an excellent team.
I don't understand all of the bravado from our fans. Just 2 games ago, we were ready to run Riley out of town. I'm much more confident than I was 3 weeks ago, but the team is still far from where we need to be to act this confidently. We still don't even really know which team is going to show up.
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Face to face Most Nebraska fans respect everybody no matter what.
Dr. Tom would be ashamed of many people on here.
Dr. Tom would be ashamed of many people on here.
To be honest I don't know if we ever treated OU like this or not. My guess is, no. 1) they are OU and have earned our respect. 2) there was no internet. 3) I was born in 1980, started following NU in 1989. At that time Colorado was becoming an annual thorn in our side, so my earliest recollections of bad blood were against CU. By the time I was old enough to understand the NU/OU rivalry NU was curb stomping everyone who stepped on the field against them and OU was entering a downtime in their history. When the Big 12 started and the annual OU/NU game came to an end was 1996 and at the start of that season I was 15 years old. So I don't have a ton of Black Friday memories from NU/OU.
All that said, respect is earned. We've faced OU 85 times and the series is pretty close. As I said earlier, that 38 year period from 1970 to 2008 saw NU and OU combine to win 37 conference titles and 9 National Titles, and I didn't even count the number of times NU or OU went on to play for a National Title and lost. Just think about it statistically. 24% of the time from 1970 to 2008 the winner of the OU/NU game became the National Champion. I don't remember how many times both played for National Titles and lost, but both teams probably combined for between 15 and 20 National Title game apperances during that span, so roughly 40% to 50% of the time those two teams were playing for a shot at a chamionship. 97% of the time the winner of that game was Conference Champion. That's unreal, I don't even think OSU/Michigan can match that level of success in their rivalry.
IMO the current state of college football and the parity that takes place, such a rivalry will never again exist. The NU/Iowa game will never reach the level that the NU/OU game did, nor should we expect it to. But if Iowa wants to earn the respect of a team like Nebraska you need to do more than turn in a single 11-0 season against one of the weakest schedules of any Power 5 team. You don't earn respect playing Iowa State, Pitt, Northern Iowa and North Texas. I get the Iowa State match up, but honestly, how many home and homes have you guys had with Pitt over the past 10 years??? The only other semi-respectable team you've played over that period out of conference is Arizona. Play somone and then go 11-0, and then do it again, and then do it again, and then do it again and you'll earn your respect. Beat us on Friday, go beat Michigan State, go beat Bama and Clemson to win a National Title and you'll earn some respect. Until then this is just another typical Iowa flash in the pan.
It looks the same on the Iowa board concerning Nebraska, some of which I had to read to a HAWKEYE friend to prove the point last night. The Hawks have had a great season and I hope it is a great game on Friday. GBR
Spoken like a true Iowa loser. You don't care about history as Iowa historically is a mediocre football program(at best). Funny, you all are quick to bring up history about two college males wrestling on a mat though!
Uhhhhh, I don't remember saying anything about wrestling......but, that's cool bro. Did anyone else see a wrestling quote by me? Not...........Me personally, I don't care about history. My favorite is when my NU friends talk about how many Heisman Trophy winners does Iowa have in comparison.......who gives a sh#$. Don't know how things like history and Heisman Trophy winners are relevant to the game at hand. If you tell me that Tommy Frazier will be suited up and running onto the field on Friday, then I may care more about history. You can talk all you want about Iowa's mediocrity (I agree to a point), but, Iowa does have the most recent BCS bowl victory and generally been a better program for the last 15 years........Yes, mediocre, but, a higher level of mediocrity than NU. 
The real issue with Iowa is their severe inferiority complex - they dont act like a top tier program and then when they have a decent season want to be viewed as one
Top programs do not schedule ISU and some other team like PITT every year then claim their schedule is compatible with another team playing a historically top program - its not about average its about playing someone with a pulse.
Iowa has every reason to be happy this year but this is not something that has been building or there has not been some major change insid their program to make this happen - Kirk is still the same old Kirk
What happened was that WI and NU were both down this year - a same year when Iowa does not play MI,OSU,MSU or PSU. Iowa has a decent team but their success is due to schedule and that the two better programs in the west went through coaching changes ( WI and NU) their talent level is the same as when they lose 5-6 games a year. Now on top of that they have pulled out some games that could have gone either way
So no reason to respect Iowa because of their record this year since most of it is schedule
After the "Game of the Century" Nu went on quite a drought beating OU. We still thought of them as our rival which they discounted, saying their rival was Texas. OU looked down on NU until the 80's when the wins started to even out a bit. So no, there wasn't mutual respect.
No other fan base mentions this. Maybe you need to look inside yourselves and realize that you guys are delusional.
Lie....I traveled the boards when we switched to the BIG 10, not a single post like that.
That was seriously one of the dumbest post I have ever seen. Good thing he doesn't care about history, because he doesn't understand it at all. We are the winningest program of the past 50 years and he would rather have the history of FSU, OSU, Miami. What a genius.
The problem for Iowa is, that in most fans' minds, they have a good team every five or six years. Their record over the past years have been:
7-5
6-7
6-6
9-4
11-2
8-5
7-6
4-8
8-5
7-6
11-0
Nebraska's record has been much better than that and we fired the coach for it. In fact, last year we beat Iowa and won nine games, and that wasn't good enough for Nebraska Football.
Nebraska has won 9 games or more, 47 out of the last 54 years!
I know this is sounding like a slam, but Iowa fans have to admit they were calling for Ferentz's head in quite a few of the years listed above. I hope they continue to play better and do make this a rivalry.
What I'm saying is "respect" is earned over the long haul, not when a team pops up and has a good year.
Having said all that, if Iowa beats us, I hope they get into the playoffs and shut some of these TV pundits up. I do love the smart, disciplined, tough football that they play.
7-5
6-7
6-6
9-4
11-2
8-5
7-6
4-8
8-5
7-6
11-0
Nebraska's record has been much better than that and we fired the coach for it. In fact, last year we beat Iowa and won nine games, and that wasn't good enough for Nebraska Football.
Nebraska has won 9 games or more, 47 out of the last 54 years!
I know this is sounding like a slam, but Iowa fans have to admit they were calling for Ferentz's head in quite a few of the years listed above. I hope they continue to play better and do make this a rivalry.
What I'm saying is "respect" is earned over the long haul, not when a team pops up and has a good year.
Having said all that, if Iowa beats us, I hope they get into the playoffs and shut some of these TV pundits up. I do love the smart, disciplined, tough football that they play.
You guys must respect the hell out of BYU, Miami, mighty Illinois, Wisconsin, Northwestern, mighty Purdue and the refs that gave you the Michigan State game.
Since you want to talk about your rich tradition and not the present turd of a year your having, don't forget to bring up October 9, 2004.
Don't forget to bring up Nebraska's record vs the "bulles"<----LOL, of the Big Ten.
Good post.
There's inconsistencies and delusions on both sides. Iowa's run from 2002-2004 was great (31-8, 3 top 10's) but it was followed by ten years of pretty "blah" football. There's a segment of Iowa's fanbase that props Kirk up for those three seasons boosting his career accomplishments, and the other segment that acknowledges just how long ago that was. And Iowa fans, just like Nebraska fans, and fans of every team, look back at some seasons and say, "But we were THIS close to being such-and-such", and get a little miffed when other fanbases don't also recognize that. Let's be fair, you guys are doing that very thing this season. And that's fine. Iowa's 2008 & 2010 teams were better than their record. They lost a few last year they shouldn't have. Just like this year's Husker team is better than their record, and I know you all could point out games in the Pelini era that could've/should've gone your way.
Now, to address where the OP is coming from...Nebraska fans point to NC's as one of the reasons not to respect Iowa. Well, those were a long time ago. We both have the same number of NC's this century: ZERO. For all the talk of expecting/aspiring for them, where has it gotten NU Football? It's gotten you 9-win seasons (which are fine, but not to you) and coaches fired because of it (which may end up being not so fine). In the end, what is the difference between a program that "aspires" for greatness and wins 8-9 games per season, and another program which "accepts mediocrity" but wins 7-8 games per season?
Not a whole lot.
In this century:
Iowa is 132-66 (45-17, 40-24, 37-27 in five-year blocks)
Nebraska is 136-68 (41-22, 43-24, 42-22)
Both teams with 2 sub-.500 seasons. Both with five 10-win seasons. Iowa's record is more front-loaded and Nebraska's is more consistent. We'll see what the future brings. Iowa fans are excited for the future, and with good reason. Nebraska, you guys always seem optimistic for the future
Uhhhhh, I don't remember saying anything about wrestling......but, that's cool bro. Did anyone else see a wrestling quote by me? Not...........Me personally, I don't care about history. My favorite is when my NU friends talk about how many Heisman Trophy winners does Iowa have in comparison.......who gives a sh#$. Don't know how things like history and Heisman Trophy winners are relevant to the game at hand. If you tell me that Tommy Frazier will be suited up and running onto the field on Friday, then I may care more about history. You can talk all you want about Iowa's mediocrity (I agree to a point), but, Iowa does have the most recent BCS bowl victory and generally been a better program for the last 15 years........Yes, mediocre, but, a higher level of mediocrity than NU.
Yet, Nebraska still has more wins than Iowa in the same period........
You want to point to a specific date? Great.. Go back and just take a snapshot of Iowa football as a whole... Won't find much.
Geez, I hate talking about history.......but, how many bcs wins does NU have in the same time period? How many BCS bowls has NU been to in that time period.
How about we talk smack about this game in particular? Iowa is now 4th in the playoff rankings heading into the game Friday........
So did the refs give MSU the game over OSU too? Same play that resulted in a 3rd down being converted for MSU. So ours is given to us, but MSU was legit right???
We can play this game all day. How many National Titles has Iowa played for since 2001?
In the end, what has Iowa really accomplished?
All this back and forth, it's pretty simple really and I'm sure all Iowa fans on this board can agree....Iowa will never be Nebraska, period. You will never be a 'blue blood' program and it eats at you like a flesh eating bacteria and you HATE NU because of it. Correct?
I introduced my son to a "hawkeye" once.. He had been at the park, sliding down the slides and playing all day, then called me into his room that evening. He looked quite concerned and showed me his underwear. He had a lengthy skid mark there, and I told him, "Son, that is a Hawkeye, now take a shower and give these to your mother."
It was quite the inside joke in our family, and even heard it from teachers at his school that our son was accusing the other bully kids of being hawkeyes.. he got into no trouble for that, but internally, we knew what he was really calling those other boys.
That's true respect, right there my friends.
It was quite the inside joke in our family, and even heard it from teachers at his school that our son was accusing the other bully kids of being hawkeyes.. he got into no trouble for that, but internally, we knew what he was really calling those other boys.
That's true respect, right there my friends.
Oh where oh where, have all the Iowa fans gone? Did their manager just bump them up to the 'drive thru' window or something?
No, you're right. Iowa will never be Nebraska - a consistent 5-7 loss team pining for the "good ole days" and talking unwarranted trash to others. Nor would we ever want to be. We prefer to win with humility and integrity.
Didn't realize Nebraska was a consistent 5-7 loss teams, might want to look up what consistent means. That's the definition of Kirk.
I'm not a Husker historian, but I'm pretty sure you can count on 1 hand how many times NU has lost 5-7 games in the last 50+ years.
There hasn't been a whole lot of humility from you guys on here as of late.
Where exactly is this humility and integrity you speak of ? It certainly hasn`t been exhibited by the majority of Iowa posters here.
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