You also walked barefoot ten miles to school through a foot of snow both way ways didn’t you?
Realistically, how good is our talent level for the new coach?
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You also walked barefoot ten miles to school through a foot of snow both way ways didn’t you?
Jrs. Farmer, Foster, Gates, Conrad
Freedom, Stolt, King
Soph: Decker, Barnett
Davis, Davis, Davis, Neal
Fr, Jaimes, Farniok
Stille, Thomas
Source: Huskers.com
Sure that's definitely a large part of it, but bad coaching is part of it too. Jones would be worse this year if he was 100% healthy. Most of the mistakes I'm seeing out of him are mental instead of physical.
Knevel and Conrad are the only graduating senior linemen on either side of the ball, and both lost their jobs to underclassmen this year. EVERY other lineman on the 2-deep returns next year. That by itself is reason to think NU shouldn't fall into a black hole next year - if someone can coach them up.
Why does Rivals list them as seniors? Must be that they don't consider the redshirt year.
Because our current level of coaching sucks and unbelievably stupid there could be some but we will never know
Conrad is a junior.
The returning experience up front on both sides of the ball has to be very intriguing to the next coach.
Conrad is a Junior of the Redshirt variety.
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209396583
Jameis, Farniok and Decker were not factors on the Oline last year, but the rest got good reps. Mick and Freedom were starters last year and Carlos got good reps. It is hard to conclude that these players lack talent in comparison to NIU, NW and MN players. Things are lacking in the year-round development of these players. Garrison or the Stache would both be fielding a better Oline with these same players. No idea what's up with Parella.
3 years.
Year 1 to install the "platform"...and land a few surprise recruits... Year 2 to solidify the culture and haul in a windfall of recruits. Lots of young players see time in Year 3. Our current young talent builds and builds throughout, AND more than a handful of unexpected players surprise by flourishing under the new and improved staff. It will be fun to watch, and I actually believe that this time.
1st year in a 2 gap 3 man front for those DLinemen is a big adjustment. They get doubled or at least chipped by a 2nd guy on the way to the backers virtually every play.
After watching our offensive linemen of the past 15 years spend half of their time trampled and on their backs, I think it would be nuts to conclude we have had and continue to have talent in the trenches — and that’s the key to everything. Defenses over that period of time have been better, but they too have been mostly poor except during the Suh years — and he was a generational talent.
Frost may turn this around but we’d better plan on giving him much more than the three years given to Riley. I will bet this time next year this board will be calling for the heads of at least one or two of his assistants. I hope Frost understands that this isn’t close to the program when he was here twenty years ago. Only the fans’ high standards and expectations haven’t changed. The same expectations that nearly sent TO to Colorado.
We should only want a coach who wants to meet those expectations and I think Frost understands and loves that challenge.
The talent level was better when Bo took over in ‘08 than it is today and I’d say by a lot. Callahan left several future first rounders. We are pretty bad folks and the ship has crashed. We’re going to have to give at least 3 years before we can think of winning 9 games and maybe by the 4th we’ll win the west. Will have to be patient with Frost.
I think we had enough talent to be 7-3 right now instead of 4-6. 7-3 would not be great, but it is a sufficient core for a good coaching staff to build on without any more losing seasons.
BS. I'm for patience but the Rivals rankings and the eyeballs say there's enough talent to win right away. This is an easy fix with the right QB. I tell you what, Andrew Bunch may be the luckiest walk on QB in the world if we hire Frost. The kid has some serious wheels and a serviceable arm.
You said the right quarterback, which at the moment it’s an unknown so it could take 2-3 years to have that right person in place. Also, we’re not going to win many games next year as the schedule does us no favors. My eyeballs tell me that we have enough talent to make it to a bowl game, but we’re so behind from where we used to be. I was watching tape from the ‘03 team (year that Solich got fired) and that team was night and day ahead of where we are now. More speed, stronger, disciplined and had a swagger.
Foreman wasn't offered by the Gophers because they said he was too slow. He was an extremely smart player and compensated for his lack of speed by playing fast and being in the right spot at the right time. One of my faves.
If the new coach can reduce the strain.... Then they will compete for the west title immediately!
There is no doubt that there was some serious senior talent on Solich's last team on defense. Not so much on offense. His O linewas bad saved only by Jamaal Lord. That guy was a much better player than he got credit for.
What surprises be is the lack of speed on D. When an opposing player gets in the open we have no one with closing speed to catch them.
That has no bearing whatsoever IMO. If you are coached by poor coaches, your talent level won't be realized at all.
I think we have the talent on both lines to be competitive next year and with UCF playing some 3-4 and 4-3, they'll be well-versed. We'll have a glut of DTs, so we will be able to keep them fresh. Our DE will still be a liability, but I have some confidence in Stille and Thomas. I believe Frost has a very good DC, and can take what we have and make a solid defense.
It's very clear to me that Cavanaugh wasn't getting near the ability out of our OLine that he could have. Frost isn't going to screw aground. He will go back to the sound 'drive blocking' techniques that he took with him from being at Nebraska. And does anyone think that TO won't share any info on that front? He will have an open door for Frost whenever Frost needs him. And any other coach that was here during TO's regime.
I think winning 8 games next year would be very realistic.
Sept. 1, 2018 Akron Home (W)
Sept. 8, 2018 Colorado Home (W)
Sept. 15, 2018 Troy Home (W)
Sept. 22, 2018 Michigan Away (L)
Sept. 29, 2018 Purdue Home (W)
Oct. 6, 2018 Wisconsin Away (L)
Oct. 13, 2018 Northwestern Away (W)
Oct. 20, 2018 Minnesota Home (W)
Nov. 3, 2018 Ohio State Away (L)
Nov. 10, 2018 Illinois Home (W)
Nov. 17, 2018 Michigan State Home (?)
Nov. 23, 2018 Iowa Away (?)
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Respectfully disagree. Other than Spielman and Hoppes and maybe Tre on offense we fall far short. Defense has been awol all season.
I do agree that a new staff will give the players an opportunity to reach their full potential through much better coaching. This staff is clueless.
Not sure if serious? That’s what folks thought this year seeing 4 were Redshirt JR. Let that sink in.
Don’t want to put words in your mouth but by enthusiastically agreeing with the poster who claims we have enough talent to be about 7-3 or so, is it reasonable to infer that we shouldn’t expect a worse record than 7-3 or so after ten games next season?
I couldn’t disagree more, if that’s what you think. I think we’ll be lucky to be 6-6 next season and this board will already be calling for the heads of at least a couple assistant coaches. Obviously we can’t both be right. I hope you are.
Great example of the "eye" our glory day TC leaders had for talent.
Could see a kid on the field, his frame, potential, etc. Then develop the shite out them.
But we fall short because of coaching, not necessarily because a lack of talent. If we had good coaches in place, we would have more players receiving honors.
That's crazy. We have outrecruited ever team in the West every year since we have joined the Big Ten. You can make your argument in regards to OSU, Michigan, and PSU. However beyond that, this talent argument is lame.
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People forget that UCF out hit Michigan last year in the big house according to Frost. Cant imagine what we would do with this talent!
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