ADVERTISEMENT

Raiola - no longer in the building

I am starting to think that these two are the same dude...one playing as the straight man, the other the jokester. I love it.

This is better comedy than when we start talking about our bench press, 40 times and hotties we did or would not bang.
Thank goodness we are not I treat people far better and do not call anyone stupid for having an opinion.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: dinglefritz
I think the board analyst rankings are:

1. RecruitingAnalyst_Infinity_and_Beyond
2. RecruitingAnalyst_Universal
3. RecruitingAnalyst_Worldwide
4. (tie) RecruitingAnalyst_National
4. (tie) My 12 year old dog, Willy - to be fair, his eyesight at an advanced age is keeping him from a higher official ranking
 
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
 
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
No. One former NFL Husker said that he wasn’t a big problem. He’s an easy scapegoat for not recruiting talented enough linemen
 
  • Like
Reactions: OO Snipes and 4-3 D
We call people who create multiple usernames and pretend to be some kind of recruiting analyst stupid. Do you know anybody like that?
giphy.gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: Winston Smith 84
Doesn’t the S&C coach develop & run the program that the HC wants? They used to years ago.
Yes they do but he can only work with the bodies he’s given. I was just repeating what a Husker who played in the league said. Don’t remember who it was
 
Yes they do but he can only work with the bodies he’s given. I was just repeating what a Husker who played in the league said. Don’t remember who it was
I agree he can only work with what he’s given. My point was he was developing & running the program that HCSF wanted. He was given the menu AND the ingredients.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dinglefritz
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
It's one thing for OL and DL to not get any faster speed-wise, or mobility-wise.

It's another thing when they've been here 2-3-4-5 years and are still getting pushed around.

That's why Duvall got a big raise to 300K a year when he got here, and now makes 425K a year, with lackluster results.

Compare this to OSU and Mich S & C coaches who make 801K and 700K.

I've said it 10 times on this forum, muscles are stupid, they do what you train them to do.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HuskerDana
Just looked and Nebraska OL, despite having experienced players including two HS All-Americans, ranked in the 80’s-100’s range for most OL categories, with highest ranking in the 60’s.
To me there was almost zero chance Raiola would stay.
 
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
Speculation and scapegoat I would say.
But on the speculation side was that he may have been focused on lifting more than footwork/footspeed and flexibility.
At the same time, I’m not sure the lifting side was showing that much in results either.
 
Isn't that our weakest area?

Doesn’t the S&C coach develop & run the program that the HC wants? They used to years ago.
Epley used to go meet with T.O. to show him annual S&C changes he wanted to make. T.O. would say, do what you think is right, I don't know anything about it. Then when Solich was HC, he would at least listen and ask a few questions, more out of curiosity why Boyd wanted to make a certain change. But in the end he still wanted Epley to do what he thought was right.
 
  • Like
Reactions: OzzyLvr
If Raiola wasn't a very good O-line coach the Chicago Bears wouldn't have kept him as an assistant O-line coach for 4 years. I'd say the odds are very high that he isn't the problem, maybe the problem was the first out the door.
 
3 things:
1. the o-line did get a little bit better by the end of the year.

2. Not sure but I feel like in camp SF was calling the shots of how he trained his guys (purely speculation)

3. Strength and conditioning will actually not be garbage.

Bonus: Matt Rhule knows o-line. Not going to keep someone bad at coaching just to say he did.
RE: the bolded.........the best teams were at the end of the season and yes, the Oline DID get better against that better competition. As I've said before, I'm neither endorsing or or condemning Raiola, just saying there are so many factors that complicate any assessment of Raiola's true capabilities.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dinglefritz
The longer this goes on the more I think we are going to go for someone big for DC. I guess he did say he was trying to convince snow to be a part of this, though he never said for DC so who knows.

Not sure what the holdup for WR coach is? Now that we are assuming MJ is out he should have a few guys to talk to for WR coach.
Maybe are next DC is a little busy this weekend. I hear Atlanta is a good place to see this time of the year.
 
RE: the bolded.........the best teams were at the end of the season and yes, the Oline DID get better against that better competition. As I've said before, I'm neither endorsing or condemning Raiola, just saying there are so many factors that complicate any assessment of Raiola's true capabilities.
Glad we are in agreement, and I am not even a big Raiola fan.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Laner2
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
This is simple. Find out what training Alabama and Georgia do and copy it to a t.
 
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?

Duval was focused far too much on old school Olympic lifts. Remember all the videos of half squats with massive amounts of weight on the bar? They were so focused on making players bigger and stronger, they almost completely ignored agility, flexibility, etc. There was a poster on HuskerMax (SSO) that posted actual training videos, for young strength coaches, talking about how our program was outdated and got left behind.

This could have completely been at the direction of the head coach, wanting to completely sell out to make players as big and strong as possible, but it was very obvious players got bigger and bigger and slower and slower the longer they were in our S&C program.

I think it is very telling that the most explosive and athletic players we have are transfers in from other programs (Palmer, Washington, Grant, Mathis) or true freshmen (Hausmann, Allen, Hatzog). It’s also telling seeing how much more athletic Rodgers and Riley look at Oregon right now.
 
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
He actually had input on recruits based on height, weight, etc.

Then he didn’t make them any better.

War Daddy out.
 
  • Sad
Reactions: headcard
Duval was focused far too much on old school Olympic lifts. Remember all the videos of half squats with massive amounts of weight on the bar? They were so focused on making players bigger and stronger, they almost completely ignored agility, flexibility, etc. There was a poster on HuskerMax (SSO) that posted actual training videos, for young strength coaches, talking about how our program was outdated and got left behind.

This could have completely been at the direction of the head coach, wanting to completely sell out to make players as big and strong as possible, but it was very obvious players got bigger and bigger and slower and slower the longer they were in our S&C program.

I think it is very telling that the most explosive and athletic players we have are transfers in from other programs (Palmer, Washington, Grant, Mathis) or true freshmen (Hausmann, Allen, Hatzog). It’s also telling seeing how much more athletic Rodgers and Riley look at Oregon right now.
Correct this is what I have been hearing. Our players were too stiff to move correctly.
 
Last edited:
Honest question.

Lots of complaining about the S&C program under Duval as the reason for our poor OL play.

Can anyone point to EXACTLY what he was doing wrong to cause these problems or is it all just speculation?
If you watched the Wisconsin game it's so obvious how small our o lineman are. WU lineman are solid muscle, we are all fat.
 
  • Like
Reactions: itseasyas1-2-3
This is simple. Find out what training Alabama and Georgia do and copy it to a t.
Well, it doesn't answer my question which no one has, just more complaining with no basis. As for copying what others do as a simple thing to do, I am going to submit you are assuming the product you are starting with is exactly the same which it is not.
 
  • Like
Reactions: OzzyLvr
I honestly don’t know which is more wild on this board:

1. Going from Micky Joseph and the “he HAS to be the next HC” crowd to him just straight up strangling his wife

2. NikkiSix revealing his oppressive, old world views and is I guess living in Afghanistan with the Taliban, or that maybe he is the Taliban?

3. Huskerfan in wisc/big time booster/recruiting analyst/a dozen others constantly making and posting under new accounts without any awareness that they probably have some sort of mental illness and should probably take time off doing something more productive and fun with their time
 
Well, it doesn't answer my question which no one has, just more complaining with no basis. As for copying what others do as a simple thing to do, I am going to submit you are assuming the product you are starting with is exactly the same whic

h it is not.
What kind of answer do you want?

NU's best Offensive line goes (6'10" 320) (6'6" 300) (6'4" 305) (6'6" 310) and (6'9" 315).

They average being here 3.8 YEARS at Nebraska, including 3 High School All-Americans.

And we can't run the ball for 2 yards when we need to?

What do you think the problem is?
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT