Raiola was shouldering some of the blame for the execution. He’s missed a fair number of wide open receivers and those misses have cost us 2 games IMO. He knows that.
Tampering with Raiola
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In the Illinois game alone we had a WR allow the CB to rip a beautiful TD pass out of his hands, so now you have Raiola thinking these guys aren't going to win any contested balls.
Raiola gets 10% of the blame, the wideouts being poorly coached by some nepotism hire kid get all the rest.
I know one team that was a sucker for jet sweeps. Again. And again. And again. And again.
Every player gets their own coach.
Would probably be worse than only have 1 position coach.
The WRs have been an upgrade and underwhelming at the same time. What a mess.
I have a question for all of you.
“Do you think DRs stock has gone up or down since the beginning of the year?”
We all know where he was at coming out of HS. Where is he now after starting for a B1G school for basically a year? I am just interested in your thoughts.
“Do you think DRs stock has gone up or down since the beginning of the year?”
We all know where he was at coming out of HS. Where is he now after starting for a B1G school for basically a year? I am just interested in your thoughts.
I think he had a tremendous showing on the national stage against Colorado.
Oklahoma fan coworkers tell me they wish they could trade Jackson Arnold for Raiola, as they're largely oblivious to how he's played since then.
I imagine coaches who invested are noticing he seems to regress the more he's under this staff and think to themselves "I could fix him"
I don’t think he’s regressed as much as he’s gotten beaten up and DCs have figured out how to defense him. Illinois showed everybody that Satt doesn’t have a workable plan for blitz packages. He’s a freshman QB. I predicted 1.6 INTs per game. I think he’s been a little better than that but B1G DCs have abused him. Not probably his or Thomas’s fault.
Plays that are not complicated to block. Not easy against the defense. We have no easy plays against any BIG10 defense.
The OC coaches the WR coach. It’s on Satt. Yeah the kid is young but he’s not an idiot. I’ve heard too many knowledgeable guys who played the game say that it’s Satt’s routes and schemes that are the bigger problem. Hopefully Dana can fix some of that quickly.
I’ll agree that some of the run play blocking designs are ridiculous. Get a hat on a hat going downhill. Enough with the cute reach blocks for our guards on gap plugging backers on the opposite side of the center. I don’t know if those were blown reads and line calls by our center or if Raiola could have changed things up pre-snap. I just think I see our young linemen playing pretty well when they’re not asked to do unreasonable tasks.
I mean, I don't think they did this to appease Raiola. That said, I think any reasonable player in the world would entertain leaving if you left the offensive staff as is this offseason. There is no discernable reason to think things would improve.
Last year you could make the case you didn't have the horses to compete. This season you made no step forward with arguably a better cast. A bad staff can make really good players look terrible.
Last year you could make the case you didn't have the horses to compete. This season you made no step forward with arguably a better cast. A bad staff can make really good players look terrible.
bullshit, the WR coach reports to the OC, but the OC isn't vicariously failing his job. there's a reason why we had decent WR play but shitty overall offense under Whipple/Joseph.
McGuire is an idiot who would never have a job if Rhule wasn't buddies with his dad. that doesn't mean Satterfield doesn't suck too.
the clear, common theme is that all these coaches that were Rhule's yes men in the AAC/Big 12 aren't cut out to produce wins in the B1G, even against weak teams. Same exact thing it was with Frost.
I would not doubt a lot of the staff is fighting for their jobs the next three weeks.
Dylan has had more receivers drop passes than bad passes he's thrown! The receivers need to step up and start running the right routes and catching the damn ball!
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agree.. there is little chance he sticks around this dumpster fire next year
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Maybe not. But they have dropped numerous passes and had balls ripped from there arms for ints. Gotta help a freshman qb sometimes and they have failed.
Big 10 coordinators do not miss anything when it comes to identifying weaknesses in a player's game. Raiola likes to take his time and pick his throw. When he's pressured he misses wide-open guys and makes poor decisions. Satt never helped him by scheming to what the defense was doing. I also can't tell if Raiola's head is fully there since the Illinois game, but at times he just hasn't looked like he's confident and reading the defense.
DR is not going anywhere in my opinion. He knows he has to get better too. It's not all on everyone else.
His whole family has ties to Nebraska in one way or another.
His whole family has ties to Nebraska in one way or another.
Illinois did what any smart DC does to a young QB. They applied pressure and made him make decisions. UCLA early and often sent 6 and the lack of recognizing and responding to blitzes with hot routes disabled his ability to quickly get rid of the ball. I blame a lot of that on Satt’s offense not just because of what I saw, but because of what I’ve heard guys who played at a high level say.
Hopefully Dana can help our QBs with some relatively simple adjustments and coaching points within the framework of our current offense. It’s likely going to require our WRs to quickly learn some different route combinations. I’m not as worried about our QBs learning the tweaks as I am about our receivers being able to remember them during a game. Raiola has to be able to get the ball out more quickly against blitzes.
He’s 100% not confident reading the defenses. As I’ve said on here it’s Satt’s route combos that are making it worse.
1. In HS he threw a ton of deep balls and got really good at the 15+ yard throws. Dropping balls into pockets was his thing that made him a 5 star.
Satt loves his short route combos. As a result you are taking a kid who has WAYYYY less reps throwing timing stuff and are having him do that on the majority of his routes.
2. Zone vs Man
As a freshman QB he has never had to face the athletes and disguised shells like he is facing now. When you run shorter route stems it’s harder to decipher if they are in zone or man. If you don’t stretch a defense you can’t tell if they are zone or man because there is never that moment where the defender playing zone passes his man onto the next defenders zone. There are no holes in a zone that isn’t stretched. So everything sort of looks the same. When you add that he’s a freshman he’s still trying to diagnose things like any true freshman would. Satt needed to stretch the zone with more verticals so it would have helped him see it easier.
I can promise you that we will see more Verts this
Week with crossing stuff underneath from the opposite side. holgersen stretches zones all the time and this fits right in with what DR needs.
It will be interesting to see if our receivers can execute new routes. It seems like a stretch to think we can change much of the route tree in 8 practices😕
They really can't execute their current routes.
If they simplify there is a possibility.
is it their execution or is it the play designs? I hear play design from former players.
I think its both, but the play designs that take too long to develop don't help.
I also hate how much of the routes work to the outside. Raiola and the receivers seemed to do far better when giving more middle options imo.
I know the air raid in general won't require as crisp of routes, more quick breaks.
Probably down a little. His stock was way up before the Illinois game. But it’s definitely taken serious hit in quarters 2 and 3 of the season. Can he hit investor projection in quarter 4? Tall order…
It’s actually not bad. On all smash concepts you can just run the top of the smash on a deeper route. For example, Holgersens air raid O often tells the receivers to “run to grass”. So the vertical on a smash concept could either run a post, go, or corner based on field position rather than an “out”
Raiola would just watch for the break and would know on the break what it was and would just throw to grass and let the WR run to
It. The under on the smash could just do what they were doing
My guess is that DH installs 8 smash concepts this week. They would presumably be names the route combo from inside out. So a “sluggo” which woyld
Normally be a “slant and go” route for a single WR could mean a slant for the left WR and a Go for the right.
Then when DR sets up he just reads the shell pre snap and assigns the hot route and second and then dump down.
Guessing DH goes with 21 and 22 packages and auto-releases to the vacating LB who blitzes. DR could call that pre snap.
It’s really pretty basic.
And if DH can install 8 smash concept combos he can pick apart C1, 2 or 4 with any 2 of them.
If a hack coach like me could do it, DH just did it in his sleep on day 1.
