Yep they're digging their own grave. Can't blame the previous coach forever. Can't blame the fans. Gotta look in the mirror!
Radley-Hiles to Oklahoma (Crystal Ball)
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Face facts: this recruiting class is gone. Let's move on (with the right hire) and get the process started.
Might be true. The guys on the radio just now were gushing about their recruiting weekend. They listed all the things that happened and even how former players were used. For example, they have Eric Striker helping out as a defensive recruiting analyst but most feel he is the one closing the deal on these recruits.
It seems that Lincoln Riley has a quartet of players who made commitments on Saturday. Ronnie Perkins was one who announced and it's pretty clear that 4 star OL Unije is another. The other two rumored commits are either Parsons, Bookie, and/or DaShaun White
https://www.diehards.com/oklahoma/oklahoma-recruiting-else-ready-join-sooners-2018-class
It seems that Lincoln Riley has a quartet of players who made commitments on Saturday. Ronnie Perkins was one who announced and it's pretty clear that 4 star OL Unije is another. The other two rumored commits are either Parsons, Bookie, and/or DaShaun White
https://www.diehards.com/oklahoma/oklahoma-recruiting-else-ready-join-sooners-2018-class
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Couple things here. If a coach at a school like Nebraska is told or believes that he has 5 years to reshape the program, then I have some swamp land in Florida I would like to sell them. By the 3rd year an AD had better be seeing pretty big jumps in the product on the field or you better be looking at updating your resume. Unless the team you are taking over is a complete dumpster fire, your are more times than not going to see a step back in year 1 with a new coach. Simply because you are bringing new styles, systems, attitudes and everything and that is understandable. We saw that with Riley, and if you didn't think it would happen you don't pay too much attention to college football coaching changes. But if by year three you are doing that again, and you see a backslide you have to realize you are in real trouble.
For HCMR why was there never even a hint of looking at the JUCO ranks to fill out some spots, especially at LB if the roster was in that bad of shape. I don't care if you are KU or Bama, you still look at the JUCOs as a vital part of your recruiting. Locally now with IWCC and the Jayhawk Conference you have some pretty good JUCO players right in your back yard.
Hind sight is always 20/20 and I am sure if he had a mulligan HCMR would do things a lot differently, but that is what is kind of dishearting for me about this situation. With all of the years in coaching and running a program there were some pretty glaring mistakes made by this staff and the guy running the show to let things get to where they are now.
For HCMR why was there never even a hint of looking at the JUCO ranks to fill out some spots, especially at LB if the roster was in that bad of shape. I don't care if you are KU or Bama, you still look at the JUCOs as a vital part of your recruiting. Locally now with IWCC and the Jayhawk Conference you have some pretty good JUCO players right in your back yard.
Hind sight is always 20/20 and I am sure if he had a mulligan HCMR would do things a lot differently, but that is what is kind of dishearting for me about this situation. With all of the years in coaching and running a program there were some pretty glaring mistakes made by this staff and the guy running the show to let things get to where they are now.
If he gets fired it's because he sucks and this team has regressed under his watch, and the recruits know it.
I can't stand people who pretend the IQ of these recruits is 60 and they don't care if the team looks to be improving or not. So dumb
Thanks.. I try to live my life on the whims of 18-year olds as much as possible, so I appreciate the heads up. I'm going to go crawl under my covers now.
Exactly.. Whomever said that the blame can't be placed on this coaching staff has me scratching my head. In my estimation, the only people that can and should be blamed for him going elsewhere, after committing here, IS this coaching staff, for not holding up their end of the bargain and not getting fired. Who else should be blamed for him going elsewhere, Harvey Weinstein?
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Ummmmm...well...uhhhhhh...yeahhhh...ummmmm...hmmmmmm...just one question.
How the heck do seven people like this?
Well those recruits better like the next coach OU hires when they don't have their All-American QB anymore and they lose to Iowa st, Okie St. and Texas next year.......
If he's going decommit or is wavering why string it out untill the last minute. If I'm not mistaking isn't he an early enrolle? Open up the recruitment so all parties can move on.....
Not sure if serious. Guessing sarcasm.
Or come here and think you won the NC when you beat Purdue. Very similar
Yes he’s an early enrollee. I think he, like many others, are waiting on the status of MR. If MR stays so do Bookie, Moore, Williams and we likely get commits from Crocker and Tutt. Not saying that is a reason to keep him,
Just it is what it is.
It’s called context Tom. As in, you cherry picked that quote out of my post and used it out of context. For a guy that went to Yale, your reading comprehension and logic suck
That was your first sentence! It was the topic sentence of your whole paragraph. How is that cherry picking?
Maybe. But OU took the best team in the Big Ten and beat them to a pulp...and it was far more than Mayfield.
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Im so sick of the OU is great ...stoops won 1 national title in his 2nd year there.. after that sure he was at the dance but big game bob was not very clutch when it counted.. again im not saying OU hasnt had a great team in the last 20 years and by no means am comparing them to NU but there own fans have wanted him gone...his brothers gone.. just like every other fanbase does when they dont live up to expectations.. they are just another team i openly root against every week..like iowa, notre dame, texas to name a few
Bo Pelini was fired because he was not good enough as the football coach at Nebraska. Nobody argues that. And even he won 9 games a year with his recruits and Callahan's recruits. Callahan was also fired because he is not a good coach.
Mike Riley is worse. Statistics back that up.
He should be fired too.
Typically topic sentences are followed by further explanation and evidence to clarify and develop ideas. But hey, go ahead and just address the first sentence of the post and ignore the logic that followed it...Everyone on the board already knows you’re a troll and a clown so it really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
It's Oklahoma, they'll have some Freshman step in and play like a Heisman trophy candidate.
Bookie says he was solid on Nebraska through April of 2017. He's been thinking about going elsewhere for the last 5 months...well before this disaster of a season.
The difference is we don't know what Mike Riley can do when he has the roster he was clearly building. Bo inherited a ton of talent, including the best DL to ever play college football. Riley inherited a house of cards. To not give him time to show what he can do with a roster like Bo had...well it's water under the bridge at this point, I guess.
I think he'd be just like bo in results.
He would win 9 or 10 games but never any titles of merit.
We need coaches that will take good talent and compete for conference titles with the occasional,major bowl/playoff.
I don't think Riley would ever do that.
No, he'd be exactly where he is right now. We have a lot more offensive talent now than that 2009 team. We have a lot of talent on the defensive side of the ball as well that isn't being properly utilized. Bo is a better coach, especially with Marvin Sanders and Carl on his staff.
No, he wasn't thinking about going elsewhere for the last five months. Fact.
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He has also taken plenty of visits to other schools in the last five months. This is fact as well. I think he loves Nebraska, the fans, the coaches but the one thing missing is winning big and that is what has gotten his attention the most in my opinion.
Yes, he has taken the visits to other schools over the last five months. He was firm on his commitment until the last couple of weeks, however. That is what I am saying. I have seen some suggest that "he was never coming here". The only reason he is not coming here now is that Mike Riley will most likely not be our coach next year.
You may be right, but then one could also argue, why decommit while Riley is still the head coach. Since he is still taking his visits he could wait and see if Riley is let go or retained and then make his decision.
Lets say we win the next 3/4 and Riley is retained, then would Bookie recommit, because if Riley is retained and Bookie goes else where then I believe the other visits played a big impact on his decision, which means he was not as sold on Nebraska as people believed which is the reason why some have said he was never coming here.
It is all speculation but that is what recruiting is all about.
Not being a d#ck, I am just saying that I am right. He was coming here. Period..... Unless he lied to everyone around him. From everything I have heard, he is a great kid. So this is doubtful.
He was sold on Riley being the HC here. You bring up Riley being back (possibly). As I have stated before, that seems highly unlikely.
Bookie is gone....imo that ship has sailed.
It seems as though some like to suggest that Riley even sucked as bad as Bo at recruiting. Those people have no clue what they are talking about.
He was sold on Riley being the HC here. You bring up Riley being back (possibly). As I have stated before, that seems highly unlikely.
Bookie is gone....imo that ship has sailed.
It seems as though some like to suggest that Riley even sucked as bad as Bo at recruiting. Those people have no clue what they are talking about.
We gave Bo the opportunity to prove it. Nobody knows what Riley would have produced, and anyone who says they know is lying. They don't. They're taking their best guess just like anyone else.
Well we know how bo did with bo recruits and we know how Riley has done with bo recruits and a few of his own.
Riley sucks. This is obvious.
Classes are filling up and he’s probably getting pressure to make a choice before he loses out. Especially if he wants to enroll early. Also, Bookie likely won’t come even if Riley is retained as there is just too much heat around Riley. Bookie knows that if he comes to Nebraska, the odds of him playing for another coach before he graduates is very high. Why would he knowingly put himself in that situation when he could go pretty much anywhere?
Would have? Maybe no...we could made our best guess though and it's not pretty. What we do know is what he's producing now and it's something awful.
Worst part is: we had 23 years of history on which to base our doubts. If Riley gave Nebraska fans what we needed (no more Bo; > 9/10 win seasons), it would have been truly an exception to his performance history. I can honestly say Nebraska hired him because he's a nice dude. If anyone can claim otherwise, I'm all eyes.
Riley will never get the chance to prove it because he has never recruited as well as Callahan. Even with Suh, his teams would still never be better than average.
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