LOT of noise about that right now...if we lose this recruit, my argument for "Riley recruits well" is going bye bye. Hire Frost, lets get this ship righted. I'm totally in that camp now.
Radley-Hiles to Oklahoma (Crystal Ball)
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You can’t fault this coaching staff for losing recruits. Bookie knows Riley is getting fired, that’s why we are losing him and recruiting has virtually stalled. Who would commit to a school with a lame duck head coach mid season?
Not concerned yet. These CB picks to OK are based on that 7-on-7 creeps quotes.
There is a zero percent chance Bookie signs with Nebraska. You should be concerned.
Oklahoma is not odd at all... TJ Pledger, his good buddy at IMG, is committed there and they just got Ronnie Perkins to commit this weekend. I can easily see him going to Oklahoma if we let Riley go.
How do you say your argument for Riley being a good recruiter goes bye bye? Bookie was 100% Nebraska, even with a rocky season, before Riley's job stability came into question. Between the performances and the lack of patience from fans and administration, that is no longer the case. Bookie is going elsewhere because Riley won't be here, not because Riley isn't a good recruiter.
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Seriously? Riley at Nebraska means Bookie at Nebraska. No Riley, no Bookie.
Possibly but Tyjon Lindsey is still at NU and I believe he is Bookie's cousin correct?
Might worry about some of those guys sticking around if Riley is let go too.
Yup. We will be back to a bare bones two-deep between the recruits we lose and the players who came to play for Riley who end up leaving. I know so many fans want change and aren't willing to see the process play out any further, but those same fans need to know that the next coach will need 4-5 years to rebuild a depleted roster, just like Riley needed when he showed up, before we can fully judge his work. Even if the new coach comes in and competes with Riley's 2 and a half classes and wins, we should be slow to judge him as a coach until his system and players are in place. Hopefully we learned from Bo Pelini's tenure that we need a good coach AND a good recruiter.
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Yes. And there remains a zero percent chance Bookie signs with Nebraska.
We REALLY need a good cover corner or two in this class. We're woefully deficient in that area.
It only took Riley a year to turn a 9+ win program into a joke and three years to turn it into a disaster. Shouldn't take that long to fix it.
You're probably right. You clearly understand the roster issues Pelini was having and would have had if he had been retained as the head coach. I mean, if there were only evidence of Pelini succeeding when he wasn't playing with the players he didn't have to recruit and then failing once he actually had to start using his recruits...
How many of these guys are coming because of Riley. I believe it is more of the assistants recruiting these guys vs Riley. If we could somehow keep a few of these guys on staff. It might help save this class down the road.
Bookie is clearly a Riley guy. Spielman, Gebbia, etc wouldn't be here without Riley and Gebbia would probably leave if we can him. IF Riley goes, I think most if not all of his staff goes. The only guy could see staying would be Parella if we hired Frost.
Do you see Frost bring all his current staff with? Or would he try for some bigger names.
I think he really likes most of his current staff from what I can tell. You wouldn't know until it happened.
That's not for sure on Gebbia (regardless of what his Dad says). Please don't state that as fact.
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Gebbia came to NU because he wanted to play in a pro-style offense under Mike Riley and an NFL QB coach. The only way he would stay IMO would be if a new coach could convince him he would be running an offense that would get him ready for the NFL. Frost doesn't do that.
I'm afraid the ship has already sailed because Bookie doesn't expect Riley to be here past next year anyway, so why bother coming in the first place.
The program sucked when he took over, get a clue. Again, list all these Seniors on the squad this year. Pretty good indicator of how 408 left the program.
1) My point is that Pelini created a lot of roster issues that started to come to fruition once his players got into the system. He won 3 Big 12 North titles with Callahan's players. Riley inherited this dumpster fire of a roster and understood he had more time to turn things around.
2) Pelini was playing in a Big 10 that had two blue blood programs decimated by scandals and another who had Brady Hoke as their head coach. He did perform slightly above average against a completely different looking Big 10. He was mostly non-competitive vs the few stronger teams Big 10.
3) Look at Youngstown state now that his Nebraska transfers are gone. Really killing it over there.
He won a really soft Big 12 North his first three years, which is something Callahan did prior to his last season.
- Beginning in year 4, his first in the Big 10, Pelini had a pretty hard time competing (let alone winning) vs teams with a pulse. 8 of 9 wins were vs teams who finished unranked. Suffered two embarassing losses vs Wisconsin and Michigan; upset by Northwestern
- Year 5 - 9 of 10 wins were vs unranked teams. The ranked team they beat was Michigan at home, and I believe Shoelaces was injured in that game, basically meaning we only had to score a few points to win because their offense was crippled. We also suffered blowout losses to OSU and Wisconsin; upset by UCLA and Wisconsin
- Year 6 - 9 of 9 wins were vs unranked teams. Blowout losses vs UCLA and Iowa; upset by Minnesota and Iowa
- Year 7 - 9 of 9 wins were vs unranked teams. Blowout loss vs Wisconsin; upset by Minnesota
The program sucked when he took it over and Riley has managed to make it even more sucky.
Personally I'll take the nicer kind of sucky over the despicable sucky we had before. We'll see IF we can not suck AND have nice things all at the same time.
People need to realize that almost all of these recruits are gone and the only people to blame is the coaching staff for their failure to win more games.
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