QB situation is on Rhule
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If they took the job and cashed those outrageous checks, then yes. You owe the program, university, and state to be better if you're going to make that kind of money.
Tommy struggled a lot w zone defenses, but I'd sure love to have him now.
You don't think that there's been improvement year over year with the coaching staff change?
The offense is not better. The defense is. The special teams is the same dog poop. So it's pretty much a wash. You might be hopeful things are better, but that's just hopium.
Ganz was probably the last pass first guy that way legit. The guy Riley brought in want very good. Armstrong was dual threat who might have been pretty good in this offense.
Hell id take Taylor Martinez. N not sure who I wouldn't take over what I've seen the last couple weeks.
Holla
MSU’s punter was great today. Great hang time and good coverage equals fair catches.
must be nice
though on 3 punts we had plenty of room to run
coaching staff said all they wanted kemp to do was catch it following a week of boasting about how little they like what they've done on punt return this year
The issue isn’t if Rhule is perfect or not. No one here is acting like he’s perfect. Stick to the issue. Did he make a mistake with Sims? Yes. Is he the reason our QB room is a mess, as the OP says? No.
Kemp was only in there to make fair catches, he might have been able to make some returns if he was healthy. They brought in Nation late to try to get a return.
He didn't get here August 15th, he's the reason he QB room is the way it is. He could have changed anything he wanted.
Imagine you come in and you have Purdy, Smothers, Haarberg, and an injured Thompson. Yeah, great cards he was dealt late in the recruiting cycle when he came in.
Please tell me which sure fire starting QBs he could have gotten in the portal to come to a team who hadn’t won more than 5 games over the previous 6 years.
Top high school talent had already signed. Top transfers weren’t coming to NU for any amount of money given the state of our program recently.
If you mean he couldn't convince anyone to come, then I would agree with you, but we're back to it being his fault. His choice of OC didn't help either, that's also his fault though.
do you like to intentionally be stupid?
Im gonna get crucified for saying this but here it goes. Was told Thomson wanted to stay even if it was in a back up role because of the huge NIL deals. He talked to Rhule about this and was told it would be best for the team if he moved on.
You're telling me he couldn't have gotten Leary, Uiagalelei, Jackson(cal),or Jackson (indiana)? They were all dying to go to second class football outposts? Or better yet, convinced Smothers or Thompson to stick it out? Keeping those two guys probably would have been even easier. Not sure why you all are acting like this massive program with a 50 million dollar budget is some hopeless doe in the woods.
That's what I was told as well, not sure where this other narrative about him wanting a guaranteed starting role promised to him came from, but I've been willing to believe it's true all season. Now I'm not so sure...
Why did Clemson QB transfer to Oregon State?
"A little more complex than I was doing at Clemson, a little more NFL-style," he said. "The different stuff you do, under center, the play-actions, the deep overs, that's why I wanted to come here."
Why did Devin Leary transfer to Kentucky?
It was a no-brainer to choose Kentucky because of the receiver talent, says Leary. "For me, entering the portal, just making sure I do all the right homework, making sure that I understand the roster and where I could fit in and who's going to be around me, I mean Kentucky was a no-brainer with having these guys here."
Why did Sam Jackson commit to Cal?
One reason he chose Cal was to play for new offensive coordinator Jake Spavital. Jackson knew Spavital had mentored QBs such as Kyler Murray, Johnny Manziel and Will Grier. Jackson said Cal was the first school to contact him, and he committed to the Bears soon after making an official visit to Berkeley.
Now what was Nebraska offering? Poor everything on offense.
"A little more complex than I was doing at Clemson, a little more NFL-style," he said. "The different stuff you do, under center, the play-actions, the deep overs, that's why I wanted to come here."
Why did Devin Leary transfer to Kentucky?
It was a no-brainer to choose Kentucky because of the receiver talent, says Leary. "For me, entering the portal, just making sure I do all the right homework, making sure that I understand the roster and where I could fit in and who's going to be around me, I mean Kentucky was a no-brainer with having these guys here."
Why did Sam Jackson commit to Cal?
One reason he chose Cal was to play for new offensive coordinator Jake Spavital. Jackson knew Spavital had mentored QBs such as Kyler Murray, Johnny Manziel and Will Grier. Jackson said Cal was the first school to contact him, and he committed to the Bears soon after making an official visit to Berkeley.
Now what was Nebraska offering? Poor everything on offense.
I wish they would have grabbed somebody better than Sims. Rhule and Co didn't have much to sell though, it was apparent to everyone outside the program this was a rebuild. I think sweating Y1 of this rebuild is short term thinking, but I understand the criticism. A lot of things going the right way, just not the QB position.
Have seen him play multiple times in person
Dont know that he is a P5 QB but he is a P5 football player
You think those guys came up with those thoughts on their own? LOL, they were sold those stories by recruiters. Come on man...
Obviously from Rhules press conferences he says he wants a dual threat. Though Haarberg can run he’s not a dual threat cuz he can’t pass. He doesn’t run the option well, he doesn’t pass well and he is indecisive in the pocket. To say Rhule bagged it on Sims is crazy, how much game experience does he have here? Turn overs are bad by both so that cancels out, both can run the ball. HH is limited on his ability to pass and we don’t know how limited Sims is passing the ball, he deserves the same chance as HH. Sims was never given the opportunity to run the option. Sims appears to be quicker and just as fast. If Rhule truly wants to run the option and power football he needs a qb coach who can teach that system. You don’t need to go strictly option but knowing how to run it and actually running it are two different things. Bring Turner Gil or Frazier back as an assistant OC/ Quarterback coach.
It makes no sense for them to force out Casey. I can see them doing that to the other 3 sandbags.
If Sims was the best QB we could get, then our NIL Operation is Garbage. We're spending like a billion dollars on facilities and stadium upgrades. Take a couple million of that money and get a real QB for f-cks sake.
In all honesty, based on his history, Thompson would be injured and have missed several games at least.
Lol, simple as that, huh? I just thought of something… why doesn’t Rhule bring in Dylan Raiola? Rhule can change whatever he wants. Why not start there?
Just so you know, Rhule can only bring in the players that want to come here. I know, I know, Rhule is getting paid to bring in the best. But if your son was a top QB, would you recommend he go to a place with the longest bowl drought in P5?
I know you struggle with rational thinking… but Rhule does deserve more than this first season to show what he can do. If we roll with the same QBs next year, have at it.
Rhule isn’t the one throwing the ball and coaching qbs. It’s not his fault at all.
