What criteria are we using for deciding best conference for this year? Just want to get it down so we don't have people moving the goal posts.
Playoff Selection Thread…?
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No, wrong again. It shows the committee doesn’t want to put in teams with 3 losses and 2 of them to unranked teams. No bias, Alabama didn’t deserve to be in and they aren’t. Just cause the committee did the right thing and put 4 B1G teams in and 3 SEC in, doesn’t mean there was bias. Actually quite the opposite. The fact Bama was even considered shows bias towards the SEC.
Rece Davis finally got around to making the point about Penn State getting gifted an express lane to the Final Four, despite having no signature wins.
I don't see that after the tenacity they showed last night. I'm not a PSU fan but I was impressed that they didn't allow the Ducks to run away with that game. PSU is better than I wanted to believe.
Would rather have Arizona St the 3rd seed and have SMU/Penn St winner play the Sun Devils..
Also part of it is skepticism on my part of Saban. Let’s say the roles were reversed between Bama and SMU. Do you sincerely think Saban says a word about SOS then? As he explained himself a little more he says SMU shouldn’t have been ranked as high as they were before conference champ game. I can’t disagree with that.
I think you are over-glorifying the status of what it takes to be in the playoffs. With 12 teams, there will be a lot of "meh" teams that get in. Is there an argument that more SEC teams belong in the playoff if we are just to evaluate on who is better than who, sure. But if that was how teams were to get into the playoff then you can't allow automatic qualifiers to make the playoff, Despite being the worst B1G team in the playoffs, Indiana is better than Boise State, Arizona State, SMU and Clemson. If 3 loss Ole Miss, Alabama, and South Carolina were to make it in it would be at the expense of 3 of those 4 teams. Not a 1 loss Indiana team that smashed every team except for Ohio State and Michigan (who was near their best all season at time of play).
So Alabama can go from 9th to 6th when SMU is sitting at 75?
The auto BYEs for Conference Champs has to change.
The SMU, Penn State, and Boise State bracket is an absolute joke.
Texas essentially gets a BYE to the Semis with games against Clemson and Arizona State who are the 2 lowest ranked teams in the playoff.
The SMU, Penn State, and Boise State bracket is an absolute joke.
Texas essentially gets a BYE to the Semis with games against Clemson and Arizona State who are the 2 lowest ranked teams in the playoff.
He hates Indiana because they transferred his money to my account over and over this season. Tough to watch but it’s a dog eat dog world out there.
I agree. Because a 50 something yard FG was made by another team, Arizona state moves from a 12 seed to 4! It’s what it is this year but that shows the ridiculousness of the set up.
I expect it will change. This format was decided upon before the last realignment, when the PAC 12 imploded and Big 12 was severely weakened. ACC was barely a power conference to begin with. So instead of 5 power conference, we now have 2. Or 1 in some minds.
From a football perspective, it’s very stupid. From a tv/viewership stand point it’s not as bad as it seems. If it’s only the big ten and sec after the first round every year, it’ll get stale. Might end up that way and get stale any ways but it’s an attempt
Because they can say all the words they want to but ultimately it appears they do not apply their parameters consistently.
Rules were 4 highest ranked conference champions.
Cry about the results all you want, but the start of the season know one was complaining and everyone were just glad we had a 12 team playoff..
There it is. That explains a lot. It’s not about seeding them in the most deserving way rather it’s about the entertainment value.
I’m not crying about the results. I personally have no care about it. I even stated it is what it is this year.
Texas -14.5 vs Clemson
Ohio State -6 vs Tennessee
Penn State -9 vs SMU
Notre Dame -8.5 vs Indiana
Ohio State -6 vs Tennessee
Penn State -9 vs SMU
Notre Dame -8.5 vs Indiana
If it means Bama has another high quality win then it will matter.So Alabama can go from 9th to 6th when SMU is sitting at 75?
Of course it is. Collin cowherd even came out and said he thinks the tv networks should get a vote in situations such as bama vs Smu being in. They pay the bills and bring the money that all the schools and players want, they should have a say. I don’t agree with that but unfortunately when the system is built on money, the entertainment value matters.
I'm happy as hell Bama got bounced! we have 4 teams in the CFP, the SEC only has 3. I could actually see Oregon winning the whole thing. There isn't a defense out of the other 11 that can shut that offense of theirs down and if it becomes a scoring fest, no other teams in this field can match it's pace. The yardage between Oregon and Penn St was close but Oregon won by 18.
College football was a lot more exciting when 2 polls voted for a champion. And there were standards. Most of these teams don't deserve a shot at a national title. If you want a 2 or 3 loss champion, they need to all play 10 conference games and 3 non con before ccgs. This stinks.
Boise St is a 3 seed, not a 9 seed. They deserved that seed. It isn't an auto win for anyone.
They should wait until the results of the first round to see who the #1 seed plays. If clemson beats Texas, Oregon shouldn't have to play winner of Tenn/OSU in that scenario.
Easier said than done, but can we get our shit together for next season and scrap and claw our way into the playoff? Is it possible if we decide to stop beating ourselves?
Getting into the playoff as a team from the big ten realistically means being a top 10 team. So I’m going to go ahead and say we are a long, long way from that
Not really, the Illinois, UCLA, USC, Iowa games could have easily been wins and would have probably put us into the playoff this year. Beating tOSU as well, would have definitely put us in, which also wasn't far off from being a W.
Alabama could lose 10 games and someone would be crying buckets they didn't get in.
Want in? Beat shitty Oklahoma (like six other teams did) or shitty Vanderbilt (like 6 other teams did) ..... and you're in.
Want in? Beat shitty Oklahoma (like six other teams did) or shitty Vanderbilt (like 6 other teams did) ..... and you're in.
Or you could judge SMU fairly by their quality wins. Oh yeah, they don't have any.
This format is literally here one year only. I guarantee they will change it this spring to make a little more sense.
I think frankly it’s not the format that is bad but that the ACC and Big 12 overall suck. If they were good people wouldn’t complain so much.
I mean, what happened to these teams? FSU wins 12, then this year can’t even win 5.
TCU made the title game a couple years back and is now mid pack in their own conference
WTF happened to Utah? Miami blows it as usual against Syracuse and can’t make the title game.
Pretty exciting year overall though, I like it
I think frankly it’s not the format that is bad but that the ACC and Big 12 overall suck. If they were good people wouldn’t complain so much.
I mean, what happened to these teams? FSU wins 12, then this year can’t even win 5.
TCU made the title game a couple years back and is now mid pack in their own conference
WTF happened to Utah? Miami blows it as usual against Syracuse and can’t make the title game.
Pretty exciting year overall though, I like it
Fair point. IMO SMU is an overreaction to a feel good story, and South Carolina came on very strong late.
Good lord I don’t understand some of you guys. I hope our conference brethren all win as much as possible. Why? Because these games are worth about $25M each. They keep $15M the other $10M goes in the bowl community pot which gets divided up amongst all 18 teams. So they win the more money for Nebraska
Bama killed their win equity by losing 3 games, 2 of them to 6-6 teams. They were 21 point favorites against OU and scored 3 points while getting their asses absolutely kicked
