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You guessed wrong. I want Diaco/Riley to hire the best coach they can get. Nebraska alum not a requirement. NFL not a requirement.

You are correct, however, that just because someone is an NFL coach, doesn't mean they can recruit and coach in college. I have no idea which ones (if any) would be a good fit at Nebraska. There certainly is a current NFL position coach that has the right combination of knowledge, charisma and energy that can recruit a four star safety to Lincoln, and coach them up once they're here. I couldn't tell you who that is, Mike Riley probably could.

I don't have a problem with an NFL DB coach if he can coach using college rules with respect to the use of hands. Sometimes the NFL types want to "prepare" their guys for the NFL to the detriment of the college team.
 
What is meant by a Callahan defense? Surely you meant Cosgrove? To be truthful, I'm not sure what it has to do with Cosgrove either. Guys like to work with people they know and trust and have had success with. That shouldn't be some big revelation.

I'm pretty sure Bob Diaco is not sitting at his desk thinking "Now how can I screw this up?" The 3-4 defense might require a different technique from the Safety group. I guess I have a hard time throwing down the negativity card on this.
My original reply was in response to a post talking about Diaco attempting to replicate his success at ND in 2012-13 with Elliot. That reminded me of the justification we had when Elmo came on board. All the talk was about how Cosgrove had his biggest success at Wisconsin when Elmo was there. What's that quote in investing "past results don't guarantee future returns"? Sort of the same idea. If Riley and Diaco decide Elliot is the best option for Nebraska's future, then hire him, but base it on what he'll do for Nebraska, not what he did for ND.

And I said Callahan because I forgot Cosgrove's name. But Callahan was responsible for the whole team, including the defense. It was his responsibility to pick defensive coaches, and it was also his playcalling on offense that left the defense on the field too much.
 
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This Roy Anderson?
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/coaches/Roy-Anderson/ae6bde1a-f70d-4cb3-90de-4df016c385c8

His resume looks fine. If he's the best guy we can get, cool.

The red flag on Elliott (to me) is that he was essentially put out to pasture by Kelley. He had been "moved upstairs" or given an admin job (don't know if there is more to the story there, only reading into his nd bio). Two years is a long time to be off the grind. I don't think you can overstate the rigors of being a full time assistant. I agree with Dubs post above, and totally understand why Diaco would want him. And also agree Diaco should be allowed to hire whoever he wants. If Diaco wants one of "his guys" why not bring Elliott over in an admin role, or bring over a GA in a GA role, or go find one of his guys that is currently coaching at a P5 program? If he can't find someone that fits that bill, leverage Riley's relationships and bring in someone that fits.
Kelley has made more than a few mistakes the past couple of years. IMO, essentially this hire would be the "extra coach" that the NCAA is going to allow. He would help implement the system and work with the DBs and Williams. IMO he isn't going to have to be that lightening rod DB recruiter or energy guy. It would be very helpful to Diaco and Williams to have a guy thoroughly versed in the system to help implement it.
 
Just hope whoever he is he teaches looking back at the ball instead of face guarding the receivers eyes!
Coach Sanders was the one that really cured this problem at N. I believe he taught six positions around the receiver. The goal for number one was to take over the route: number 6 was the only one where you just watched the eyes or hands - and that was while you were running like heck to get in one of the other positions because you were beat.
 
Reports are out that Elliott will be hired. Reported by multiple sources. Including Mike Schaefer
 
Just a side note for folks worried about an old white guy coaching. Take a look at Ohio States old white guy DB coach Kerry Coombs. Then take a look at the recruits he is credited with landing, three 5 stars and twenty three 4 stars. He is widely considered the best DB coach in the nation *AND* best recruiter. He was also named the Rivals 2017 recruiter of the year.

Bottom line is this, either you can recruit, or you can't. Doesn't matter if you're old and white or young and black. You're either good at it, or you're not.
 
I couldn't' be more right, and you couldn't be more oblivious. How many examples do you need that it was our DC and not our talent?? Or do you think Northwestern, Indiana, and Wisconsin had vastly more talented defenses than us? Sure, Ohio State had much better talent than all of the 5 teams I mentioned, as well as us, but somehow the others all managed to keep it close and not get blown out from the opening kickoff.

I haven't followed this entire "discussion" but I can see both sides. I do think there are too many simplistic views when comparing scores against other teams. FB is a game of match ups. Sometimes inferior teams have strengths in places that cause problems to better teams. Scores become a meaningless measure when you look at injuries and many other factors. The argument of talent verses coaching is probably not an either or argument but rather a both argument. How did the Huskers fair with players on the B1G teams compared to others? Was our talent strength on the D line - no, it was just serviceable, how about our LB's, well no they were often slow and out of position, so how about our DB's, it was hard to say with that group as they were playing more zone than in the past. I, for one, don't think Banker had a lot to work with the last couple of years but I also think his past track record of good D's isn't much to brag about.
 
I haven't followed this entire "discussion" but I can see both sides. I do think there are too many simplistic views when comparing scores against other teams. FB is a game of match ups. Sometimes inferior teams have strengths in places that cause problems to better teams. Scores become a meaningless measure when you look at injuries and many other factors. The argument of talent verses coaching is probably not an either or argument but rather a both argument. How did the Huskers fair with players on the B1G teams compared to others? Was our talent strength on the D line - no, it was just serviceable, how about our LB's, well no they were often slow and out of position, so how about our DB's, it was hard to say with that group as they were playing more zone than in the past. I, for one, don't think Banker had a lot to work with the last couple of years but I also think his past track record of good D's isn't much to brag about.

I would agree with you, if 5 different teams from the B1G weren't competitive with OSU this year. Three of which we have at least as much talent. I get it, we were young upfront, but we were constantly out of position at the 2nd level.
 
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Basically the reason I'm luke warm at best about him too.
Racist.

Are you calling me a racist or...?

My point was that race and age have an effect on a coach's ability to recruit and relate to players. I don't see how anyone could deny that.
 
Those lopsided losses to kstate came when we had a coaching staff full of old (mostly white) guys that could "develop talent", but couldn't recruit it. Is it a coincidence that when Callahan players were on the roster, Nebraska became a more competitive team? YOU NEED TO BE GREAT AT RECRUITING!

Oh you mean that coaching staff that recruited the 5th ranked class in 2005, and finished 5-7 and got fired after the 2007 season after getting blown out multiple times? That coaching staff?

There were 3 AA coaches on Solich's staff and 4 AA coaches on Callahan's.
 
Are you calling me a racist or...?

My point was that race and age have an effect on a coach's ability to recruit and relate to players. I don't see how anyone could deny that.
Its fun using the lefty tactics against the leftys, when facts are pointed out the tactic is to say racist.
I agree with you just a little, but not a lot, and dont actually think you are a racist but i do love double standards.
And no i dont think race has any bearing on ones ability to recruit overall, especially with our staff
 
Oh you mean that coaching staff that recruited the 5th ranked class in 2005, and finished 5-7 and got fired after the 2007 season after getting blown out multiple times? That coaching staff?

There were 3 AA coaches on Solich's staff and 4 AA coaches on Callahan's.

You missed the point. Not surprising.
 
Don't get your panties in a bunch. You're wrong - accept it and move on with life.

"Panties in a bunch?" What adult male says that? Oops, you're probably a female. My apologies, miss. BTW miss, you're demonstrating very little knowledge of the game.
 
"Panties in a bunch?" What adult male says that? Oops, you're probably a female. My apologies, miss. BTW miss, you're demonstrating very little knowledge of the game.

Uh oh, looks like you've been triggered. y u mad?
 
Diaco, Parrella, Williams and Elliot are upgrades from Hughes, Banker and Stewart (and Read, whose slot allows for an additional psn coach). Maybe the not as good as the "magic" coaches that exist in the minds of some board members, but an upgrade nonetheless.
 
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y u triggered tho?

You think it was mostly lack of talent against Ohio State, and I think it was mostly our DC being a bad DC. 6 other B1G teams somehow seemed to have found a way to slow their offense down.

I think you're wrong and you think I'm wrong. How about we agree to disagree?
 
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NU trying to create a little Hawkeye Magic by hiring all these former Iowa Hawkeyes, who's next Chuck Long?
 
NU trying to create a little Hawkeye Magic by hiring all these former Iowa Hawkeyes, who's next Chuck Long?

Hawkeye Magic? Nah...even though it may look like it lately, we aspire to greater heights than mediocrity.
 
Latent chauvinism when you call a man a woman and think that's supposed to be a put down.

Are you always this sensitive? I'm sure the yoga pants thread has you biting your nails to the quick.
 
Credit where credit is due. A sampling of the Fry coaching tree includes Alvarez, Bielema, Diaco, Ferentz, Leavitt, Long, Novell, Elliott, Grandpa Snyder, the Stoops bros and of course, Bo Pelini.
But 1-3 against the Huskers.
 
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