I agree about Iowa, but I don't think much would change vs OSU, even if we had gotten to choose when we played them.
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I agree about Iowa, but I don't think much would change vs OSU, even if we had gotten to choose when we played them.
I'll be a 60-something white man in a few years when I retire. To pad my retirement income I would be willing to give Victoria's Secret a shot. I might not be an effective salesman, but sounds like a fun place to work.
Never said that in the first place. We where beat from the get go regardless of TA concussion.
lots of stereotypes in this thread.
Need a young guy to relaore to kids. Not true
Being white is a negative.
Being 63 years old, he will be old school, not up on things, too old.
Someone asked about the HR stuff: age is never considered, nor is race, religion, or sex. There can be specific exceptions. You can't say, I would like to hire you but you are too old to connect with 18 year old kids.
I want a good evaluate of talent and a great teacher who can connect with kids. Age and race mean nothing to me. Some coaches can get kids on campus but not develop them. Eventually you have to find some middle ground on these.
Up to the coaches whom I trust. The AD trusts the head coach, the head coach trust the D coordinator.
Need a young guy to relaore to kids. Not true
Being white is a negative.
Being 63 years old, he will be old school, not up on things, too old.
Someone asked about the HR stuff: age is never considered, nor is race, religion, or sex. There can be specific exceptions. You can't say, I would like to hire you but you are too old to connect with 18 year old kids.
I want a good evaluate of talent and a great teacher who can connect with kids. Age and race mean nothing to me. Some coaches can get kids on campus but not develop them. Eventually you have to find some middle ground on these.
Up to the coaches whom I trust. The AD trusts the head coach, the head coach trust the D coordinator.
It appears that this guy has the goods when it comes to coaching. He has documented successes. If hired, he will have recruiting expectations. I am sure he and others will tell prospects about kids who have succeeded as a result of his coaching. It's a Diaco/Riley call. If they want him, I hope he takes the job.
He is an excellent coach. As much as I dislike Iowa (I live there) I have to admit Heyden Fry's coaching tree is pretty sound. Elliott's uncle coached in Lincoln. Elliott does have health issues and has had a kidney transplant.
What is meant by a Callahan defense? Surely you meant Cosgrove? To be truthful, I'm not sure what it has to do with Cosgrove either. Guys like to work with people they know and trust and have had success with. That shouldn't be some big revelation.
I'm pretty sure Bob Diaco is not sitting at his desk thinking "Now how can I screw this up?" The 3-4 defense might require a different technique from the Safety group. I guess I have a hard time throwing down the negativity card on this.
Bray - 7 yrs coaching experience is like 35?
D. Williams 10 years experience about the same age.
JP - 8 years experience coaching but a little older in age, like 47?
Then Diaco is 43 and has 20 years coaching.
That is a lot of coaches with limited coaching experience.
I don't think you can go wrong bringing in a little age and experience to the staff. Having a second person, with hands on experience with the exact defensive scheme doesn't hurt either.
Personally, I would go with the young, energetic recruiter, but when you look at the staff as a whole, I could see why this would make sense.
D. Williams 10 years experience about the same age.
JP - 8 years experience coaching but a little older in age, like 47?
Then Diaco is 43 and has 20 years coaching.
That is a lot of coaches with limited coaching experience.
I don't think you can go wrong bringing in a little age and experience to the staff. Having a second person, with hands on experience with the exact defensive scheme doesn't hurt either.
Personally, I would go with the young, energetic recruiter, but when you look at the staff as a whole, I could see why this would make sense.
Not flawed whatsoever. Ohio State has a head coach that demands excellence on both the recruiting front and the coaching and talent development front. With Mark Banker, who obviously struggles at both, the results were determined before we stepped on the field with Ohio State.
Can we add another D to that cup? Life would be perfect then..
I don't know if we beat Iowa with a healthy TA, but we certainly wouldn't lose by 30.
So you're saying that it wasn't talent, it was just Mark Banker that led to 62-3?
Take a look at the Ohio State scores against Indiana, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Penn State, and Michigan State. That is pretty strong proof that our DC sucked a lot worse than our talent. None of those other schools struggled with Ohio State like we did, and the only ones that might have more talent than us are maybe Michigan State and Penn State.
It's OK if you can't refute my comments. No one can, so don't feel like you're in the minority.
It might have had something to do with our offense not being able to do anything which kept our defense on the field too much.
Sure it did, but you don't get 62 dropped on you with a stellar defense. Banker sucked. Period. And as sad as I am to see a friend fire a friend, it had to happen. Our defense was butter, and Ohio State's offense was a scalding knife.
If he would like to be a special assistant to the defensive coordinator, that sounds good to me. Paying a good football mind to provide another set of eyes on the defense is a great idea.
As for the next db coach, I'd prefer someone who coached and recruited over the last two years (or was an NFL position coach).
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bob_elliott_792447.html
As for the next db coach, I'd prefer someone who coached and recruited over the last two years (or was an NFL position coach).
http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/bob_elliott_792447.html
Doesnt look like he stays in one place very long. Not that that is a huge red flag.
We havent had secondary coaches stick around very long around here anyways
We havent had secondary coaches stick around very long around here anyways
You're wrong and you know it. You're just not worth the effort. Have a good day, snowflake!
"Bob from Notre Dame". Did anybody check with the cable guy yet? 
It'll ultimately be Diaco's head that is in play here. Therefore he better get a guy that he wants now that he is in charge....
GBR
It'll ultimately be Diaco's head that is in play here. Therefore he better get a guy that he wants now that he is in charge....
GBR
Not sure why we're overly worried about his recruiting chops. If its true he signed a 5*, he has more 5*'s recruited than Keith Williams. (For the record, I believe Tyjon is a 5* player, but officially he is not).
ND is a sinking ship Bob is smart enough to know that having coached at Iowa State among his many stops
I couldn't' be more right, and you couldn't be more oblivious. How many examples do you need that it was our DC and not our talent?? Or do you think Northwestern, Indiana, and Wisconsin had vastly more talented defenses than us? Sure, Ohio State had much better talent than all of the 5 teams I mentioned, as well as us, but somehow the others all managed to keep it close and not get blown out from the opening kickoff.
That's right, but that person would have been in the NFL, which is where every recruit wants to go.
Let me add, if you think BE the #1 best choice for the job, great. You can feel that way and I'm not going to change your mind.
To me, this would qualify as a buddy hire. I don't believe that Nebraska should limit it's searches to individuals that have worked with current staff members in the past. Nebraska should be committed to going out and finding the very best fit for the job. Riley has stated he wants the best recruiter/coach he can hire. If you're telling me that the best guy for the job has been a special assistant to the head coach at Notre Dame for the past two years, I'm not going to agree with you.
I'm not a fan of this hire, but understand it completely. New scheme, new language, new attitude, new drills, new personnel (coaches and players), new everything so to ease the transition - make sure you're covered with at least one person that is familiar with everything. And that one person, outside of another P5 coach (yes, I confirmed) who isn't leaving his current position, is Elliot.
Years ago I made a career change, company wise not industry. I kept everyone on board with the new company when I took over, some of it was part of the agreement I made during negotiations and some of it is how I operate (give rope, hang yourself or survive). I brought one person with me, and it was the one person that knows how I operate/manage/sell/coordinate/etc. He wasn't the best hire I could make, he wasn't the smartest hire I could make but he was one of two people that knows how I do things, inside and out, and that was invaluable to me with the task at hand.
IMO, allowing Diaco to fill this position with who he thinks is the right person is the only way to go about it. We're paying Diaco $800,000 & his track record as a defensive coordinator tells me, "hire who you want Bob"....
Nope just trying to see why you think what you think.
So if I said Roy Anderson is going to be the next Safeties coach at Nebraska you would be good with it?
As far as Elliott goes, I don't know that he is the best guy for the job. I do believe he would be much more than a buddy hire. His defenses were solid at Kansas St and his secondary at Notre Dame, when he coached with Diaco, was very good.
I juat don't think the criteria should simply be, been in the college game the last two years or current NFL assistant.
So this and he had a monster defense at K-State. And he develops talent, recruits love this. He gets to help build another monster; wearing Blackshirts. He helps get the culture in - when he does retire, he improves a younger coach before he even gets here. Parents will love him and there is high energy and youth in the room already. Coaching and a winning D now, we have the recruiters. .... When Cally was here, we had the recruiter and offensive coaches; but he didn't do what HCMR did - give his friends a chance to do it and bump some $ on the way; but change the program when it wasn't working. Keeping his D coaches killed him. GBR
This Roy Anderson?
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/coaches/Roy-Anderson/ae6bde1a-f70d-4cb3-90de-4df016c385c8
His resume looks fine. If he's the best guy we can get, cool.
The red flag on Elliott (to me) is that he was essentially put out to pasture by Kelley. He had been "moved upstairs" or given an admin job (don't know if there is more to the story there, only reading into his nd bio). Two years is a long time to be off the grind. I don't think you can overstate the rigors of being a full time assistant. I agree with Dubs post above, and totally understand why Diaco would want him. And also agree Diaco should be allowed to hire whoever he wants. If Diaco wants one of "his guys" why not bring Elliott over in an admin role, or bring over a GA in a GA role, or go find one of his guys that is currently coaching at a P5 program? If he can't find someone that fits that bill, leverage Riley's relationships and bring in someone that fits.
The point of Roy Anderson is that no one knows who he is. Just because he was an assistant DB coach in the NFL doesn't mean he can a) get players to the NFL b) recruit at all. Guys like Aashari Croswell aren't coming to Nebraska just because Roy Anderson used to coach in the NFL. Bo Pelini used to coach in the NFL and he was no recruiting savant.
My guess is that you threw out NFL coach so you could justify your desire to hire Daniel Bullocks.
My guess is that you threw out NFL coach so you could justify your desire to hire Daniel Bullocks.
You guessed wrong. I want Diaco/Riley to hire the best coach they can get. Nebraska alum not a requirement. NFL not a requirement.
You are correct, however, that just because someone is an NFL coach, doesn't mean they can recruit and coach in college. I have no idea which ones (if any) would be a good fit at Nebraska. There certainly is a current NFL position coach that has the right combination of knowledge, charisma and energy that can recruit a four star safety to Lincoln, and coach them up once they're here. I couldn't tell you who that is, Mike Riley probably could.
For the record, I would think you would be hard pressed to find a DB coach that doesn't teach players to look back for the ball. If you find one, tell me who it is. Teaching it and doing it are two totally different things.
I feel like I have heard our fans say this about every DB coach we have had in my lifetime. We just want to play physical press coverage, blitz on every play and play aggressive man coverage while seeing the ball. That's all.
