they should have a fun race track kids over 16 can get drunk at and speed round the track, have helmets. safety cages, no ditches trees or telephone poles etc.
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they should have a fun race track kids over 16 can get drunk at and speed round the track, have helmets. safety cages, no ditches trees or telephone poles etc.
Wow, a thread about 4 dead teenagers who had been drinking and you have a post about drunk racing for teenagers... seriously?they should have a fun race track kids over 16 can get drunk at and speed round the track, have helmets. safety cages, no ditches trees or telephone poles etc.
Caught wind from a friend on the scene of the accident. Something that you couldn't make up.
The insurance side of things is what is going to really see just how strong Gretna is. Typically insurance will pay out for survivors first, not the deceased. We'll see how that goes over with the families of the deceased. This will test friendships.
On a positive note, I heard the big fundraiser last week raised north of 150k for the families. Simply amazing.
Caught wind from a friend on the scene of the accident. Something that you couldn't make up.
The insurance side of things is what is going to really see just how strong Gretna is. Typically insurance will pay out for survivors first, not the deceased. We'll see how that goes over with the families of the deceased. This will test friendships.
On a positive note, I heard the big fundraiser last week raised north of 150k for the families. Simply amazing.
Hey Gretna, have you heard any update on how the investigation is going on this thing? I haven't seen anything in a long time and tried to search it but didn't come up with anything recent.
They are. Extremely sad. Something similar happened to Gretna a dozen or so years ago, except it was boys. It is devastating.
Actually 3 of them are . Read it this morning in the OWH..Some of the parents are now suing the County blaming the design of the road. Kinda ballsy
They are also challenging the $5 million limit on damagesActually 3 of them are . Read it this morning in the OWH..
If u drive by that spot today, there are semi truck skid marks right now.How many thousands or 100s of thousand have driven that road without an accident? Or are there lots of accidents there? I dunno.
I sort of figured it would happen and I sort of figured it would take a few years for them to pull the trigger on this.Some of the parents are now suing the County blaming the design of the road. Kinda ballsy
Yeah it is, clearly that has been kept quiet on purpose.Still noticeably quiet on who purchased the alcohol
Courts? I would assume a jury trial so a jury, not a judge would likely decide this.An inexperienced driver traveling at night, a BAC .07 over legal (in Nebraska under 21 is .02) and traveling 90 MPH. I don't see how they can win that one, but with courts being the way they are now, who knows?
No word on involvement of alcohol -- probably not due to the morning hour of the crash. But the driver attempted to pass another vehicle and crashed head on with a semi.There was another 4-fatality accident outside of Scribner on 275 on Thursday. A family of four from Fremont died in the accident.
Not a factor afaik.No word on involvement of alcohol -- probably not due to the morning hour of the crash. But the driver attempted to pass another vehicle and crashed head on with a semi.
I'm not a legal expert by any means, but I guess I figured since the jury box is in the court room, they are part of "the court".Courts? I would assume a jury trial so a jury, not a judge would likely decide this.
Jury trials tend to be more sympathetic than judge decisions in a civil matter. They also tend to award more money. I suspect in this case, they will enter into evidence how the lone surviving girl and her lawyer family don't remember where they were drinking that night. She isn't one of those suing, but it is odd. It is weird that nobody in Gretna remembers anything about where these girls were drinking that night. It is like a giant Irish neighborhood. EVERYBODY in Gretna knows what happened that night. NOBODY is talking. Throw this shit out in two seconds if there is any justice.I'm not a legal expert by any means, but I guess I figured since the jury box is in the court room, they are part of "the court".
You probably know Gretna pretty well, I would guess, but that place is sort of all about Gretna all the time. They still sort of act like they are this small isolated community that is 20 miles outside of Omaha. Like you said, it is sort of like those old Irish neighborhoods.Jury trials tend to be more sympathetic than judge decisions in a civil matter. They also tend to award more money. I suspect in this case, they will enter into evidence how the lone surviving girl and her lawyer family don't remember where they were drinking that night. She isn't one of those suing, but it is odd. It is weird that nobody in Gretna remembers anything about where these girls were drinking that night. It is like a giant Irish neighborhood. EVERYBODY in Gretna knows what happened that night. NOBODY is talking. Throw this shit out in two seconds if there is any justice.
It is a very tricky stretch of highway. Everything about it is subtle and that's what makes it dangerous for a careless driver. There's a small hill leading up to the spot which doesn't allow you to see what's ahead (think of it kinda like a small roller coaster hill that comes after the first big drop). Then as you go over the hill (driving west) immediately there's a slight turn to the left with a small bridge over a small ravine at the bottom of it. It would come up on you rather quickly if you were driving at a high speed. As I drove over that, knowing that those girls died there, I said to myself that nobody should drive that stretch at 90 mph. But for a drunk 16 year old with little driving experience and who apparently thinks she's as good as Danica Patrick, it would be a certain tempt of fate.What exactly does this road look like that makes it so dangerous?
The morning after the accident I heard it was on Platteview and I knew exactly where it had to have happened. It’s a poorly designed spot on an otherwise completely straight stretch of road.It is a very tricky stretch of highway. Everything about it is subtle and that's what makes it dangerous for a careless driver. There's a small hill leading up to the spot which doesn't allow you to see what's ahead (think of it kinda like a small roller coaster hill that comes after the first big drop). Then as you go over the hill (driving west) immediately there's a slight turn to the left with a small bridge over a small ravine at the bottom of it. It would come up on you rather quickly if you were driving at a high speed. As I drove over that, knowing that those girls died there, I said to myself that nobody should drive that stretch at 90 mph. But for a drunk 16 year old with little driving experience and who apparently thinks she's as good as Danica Patrick, it would be a certain tempt of fate.
The speed limit is 55 mph. A warning sign before that stretch would be appropriate. But that stretch of road is typical of many paved roads found in Nebraska today. As metro areas have populated, many gravel roads have been paved and they do not always run in a straight line. Kids need to be taught and learn to respect the road. Be cautious especially if you do not drive that road every day.
Interesting. Just looked it up and found the scene on google maps. I can see how excessive speeds on a winding road could have led to striking the guard rail.It is a very tricky stretch of highway. Everything about it is subtle and that's what makes it dangerous for a careless driver. There's a small hill leading up to the spot which doesn't allow you to see what's ahead (think of it kinda like a small roller coaster hill that comes after the first big drop). Then as you go over the hill (driving west) immediately there's a slight turn to the left with a small bridge over a small ravine at the bottom of it. It would come up on you rather quickly if you were driving at a high speed. As I drove over that, knowing that those girls died there, I said to myself that nobody should drive that stretch at 90 mph. But for a drunk 16 year old with little driving experience and who apparently thinks she's as good as Danica Patrick, it would be a certain tempt of fate.
The speed limit is 55 mph. A warning sign before that stretch would be appropriate. But that stretch of road is typical of many paved roads found in Nebraska today. As metro areas have populated, many gravel roads have been paved and they do not always run in a straight line. Kids need to be taught and learn to respect the road. Be cautious especially if you do not drive that road every day.
What exactly does this road look like that makes it so dangerous?
It seems the lawsuit should be directed at the person that bought the alcohol or possibly the drivers insurance company. I'm sure there is some skeletons in some closets that some might not want to come out during a trial. Lawsuits that go above the cost of funeral expenses and loss of wages in deaths like these just seem weird. No amount of money is bringing your child back.
I think it would be interesting if the lawsuit actually made it to court. Does the county have liability insurance? Would the insurance companies provide the county with legal representation? What happens when the kid rumored to supply the alcohol gets called to the stand? You can only plead the 5th to protect yourself and no one else. I suppose the kid could perjure himself figuring that the court couldn't convict him or her.It seems the lawsuit should be directed at the person that bought the alcohol or possibly the drivers insurance company. I'm sure there is some skeletons in some closets that some might not want to come out during a trial. Lawsuits that go above the cost of funeral expenses and loss of wages in deaths like these just seem weird. No amount of money is bringing your child back.