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OT: Epstein

I don't think that's the case. My read is that Bondi is simply going through the expected channels (via the FBI Director) to make sure he's aware that there may be missing docs being held by a NY FBI office. I don't see it as her being accusatory towards Patel.
this is, fairly obviously, the case.
 
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I have no problem having these people having to defend/explain themselves. If I was occasionally (or often) hanging out with a guy who was a huge pedophile I would expect to have to explain that to people in my life.

"people in your life" is one thing. The entire world is another...and the entire world does not have a right to know everything about, everything, in your life...impossible to release that list and limit the damage control for the innocent, to just "people in your life" we've seen people commit suicide for less.
 
"people in your life" is one thing. The entire world is another...and the entire world does not have a right to know everything about, everything, in your life...impossible to release that list and limit the damage control for the innocent, to just "people in your life" we've seen people commit suicide for less.
Why would anyone give a shit about random people on the internet? Again, this kind of mentality is strange to me. Wanting to protect these super rich and connected people who don't even need protection. They can fend for themselves. They always do.
 
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Read the letter she sent. It's pretty self explanatory. She seems really pissed and feels the FBI is withholding info or dragging their feet.
This isn't that difficult to understand. Their are still old guard FBI directors that don't want to play ball. The NYC office was trying to hide thousands of pages, and Patel and Bondi found out, so now they are pursuing those docs.

This isn't Kash or Bondi messing up. This is insubordination. It's no different than the DOE not following directives. No different than the FEMA money going to that NYC hotel....all done AFTER the EOs saying not to, and all done by the people we are trying to weed out of the govnt and ABC agencies.

It's annoying we didn't get more, but at least they're telling us their is more, instead of burying that
 
The Epstein files were supposed to blow the lid off of the whole thing. Lots of folks (ex. hardcore MAGA, Q-Anon) had a bunch riding on this. Since it's turned out to be more of a popcorn fart, there is naturally blame, some finger pointing, and fresh conspiracies to explain.
 
This isn't that difficult to understand. Their are still old guard FBI directors that don't want to play ball. The NYC office was trying to hide thousands of pages, and Patel and Bondi found out, so now they are pursuing those docs.

This isn't Kash or Bondi messing up. This is insubordination. It's no different than the DOE not following directives. No different than the FEMA money going to that NYC hotel....all done AFTER the EOs saying not to, and all done by the people we are trying to weed out of the govnt and ABC agencies.

It's annoying we didn't get more, but at least they're telling us their is more, instead of burying that
I didn't say Bondi or Patel messed up. Just surprised they aren't on the same page. If they were on the same page she wouldn't be sending that letter. You don't send a letter like that to someone that is already doing what you want.
 
The Epstein files were supposed to blow the lid off of the whole thing. Lots of folks (ex. hardcore MAGA, Q-Anon) had a bunch riding on this. Since it's turned out to be more of a popcorn fart, there is naturally blame, some finger pointing, and fresh conspiracies to explain.
The files that were released were the same files that were leaked... its a popcorn fart in that we didn't get new info, but that doesn't mean information doesn't exist. They're telling us of at least 2000 more pages.

Now if those pages reveal anything or are redacted to oblivion, or if the same NYC agency that tried to hide the pages, also destroyed some? Who knows
 
Why would anyone give a shit about random people on the internet? Again, this kind of mentality is strange to me. Wanting to protect these super rich and connected people who don't even need protection. They can fend for themselves. They always do.


yeah i guess i'm just more compassionate...i don't wish to destroy the lives of innocent people...or root for people like Luigi....and you just know there will be calls for vigilante justice on this, and innocent people could be the target. I also don't hate rich people the way some in this country do..I don't point at them and blame them for my poor work ethic and bad choices, for my lot in life.
 
How does stuff like this go on for years? 😥
And, trust me I am not victim blaming at all, but how do these underage girls end up there?

Do their parents or parent not say something like "Hmmmm, yeah, so this sounds a little odd, I don't think I am going to let you go"
 
The files that were released were the same files that were leaked... its a popcorn fart in that we didn't get new info, but that doesn't mean information doesn't exist. They're telling us of at least 2000 more pages.

Now if those pages reveal anything or are redacted to oblivion, or if the same NYC agency that tried to hide the pages, also destroyed some? Who knows
So the crowd in power, who have an absolute vested interest in releasing bad Epstein related news, have reams of additional stuff and the evil NY field office of the FBI is withholding. Alternative take - whatever remains unreleased is no bueno for POTUS and it will remain buried, and they will blame the NY FBI.
 
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And, trust me I am not victim blaming at all, but how do these underage girls end up there?

Do their parents or parent not say something like "Hmmmm, yeah, so this sounds a little odd, I don't think I am going to let you go"


i can't believe there is even a demand for it....its sick AF

Grown up woman who is naked in your bed voluntarily and knows what she's doing...or some 12 year old terrified little girl? hmmm, that's a tough one!! Fvcking sicko's
 
yeah i guess i'm just more compassionate...i don't wish to destroy the lives of innocent people...or root for people like Luigi....and you just know there will be calls for vigilante justice on this, and innocent people could be the target. I also don't hate rich people the way some in this country do..I don't point at them and blame them for my poor work ethic and bad choices, for my lot in life.
So to catch a pedophile, you can't risk interviewing an innocent person, so it's best to just leave everyone alone...got it.
 
So the crowd in power, who have an absolute vested interest in releasing bad Epstein related news, have reams of additional stuff and the evil NY field office of the FBI is withholding. Alternative take - whatever remains unreleased is no bueno for POTUS and it will remain buried, and they will blame the NY FBI.
What did the guy in power gain yesterday? Please show me the headline or paint me the positive framework of "My AG makes a big bold announcement, releases a big nothing burger, then further discredits the FBI, who report to her and refelct on her and my new FBI director." All to blame the FBI that the voters already hate and distrust at 50 year lows...Sounds logical
 
A couple days ago Bondi stated she was reading the docs and it was gross and disturbing or some other adjectives. I haven't read the docs. Are the released docs not the same ones she was talking about? If so, can't she release what she has?
 
This isn't that difficult to understand. Their are still old guard FBI directors that don't want to play ball. The NYC office was trying to hide thousands of pages, and Patel and Bondi found out, so now they are pursuing those docs.

This isn't Kash or Bondi messing up. This is insubordination. It's no different than the DOE not following directives. No different than the FEMA money going to that NYC hotel....all done AFTER the EOs saying not to, and all done by the people we are trying to weed out of the govnt and ABC agencies.

It's annoying we didn't get more, but at least they're telling us their is more, instead of burying that
It’s almost like you pay attention and didn’t grab a headline and cram it into a desired narrative.
 
The Epstein files were supposed to blow the lid off of the whole thing. Lots of folks (ex. hardcore MAGA, Q-Anon) had a bunch riding on this. Since it's turned out to be more of a popcorn fart, there is naturally blame, some finger pointing, and fresh conspiracies to explain.
Had a bunch riding on this? What are talking about.
 
A couple days ago Bondi stated she was reading the docs and it was gross and disturbing or some other adjectives. I haven't read the docs. Are the released docs not the same ones she was talking about? If so, can't she release what she has?
Just imo she was talking about the victims and the victim statements...which they've said from the beginning those parts would be redacted for privacy of the victims.
 
That might be the worst example ever. That guy seems to be doing just fine and used the same system to rise to president of the U.S.

You act like it's a downside. Well sign me up for that kind of downside where you win 2 presidential terms.
You’d want to be president?

Seems like the worst job ever
 
A couple days ago Bondi stated she was reading the docs and it was gross and disturbing or some other adjectives. I haven't read the docs. Are the released docs not the same ones she was talking about? If so, can't she release what she has?
No, the documents I reviewed are rated E for everyone. Just names, initials and designations of males and females on flight logs and of course the flight info - date, to and from. It shows other lists of names with heavily redacted data. Nothing in the 224 page dump was what Bondi referenced as being sickening.
 
Not sure we'll ever know...but i cannot help but wonder if their cross referencing names on the flight logs with the eight thousand recently issued get out of jail free cards. Something tells me a few names show up on both.
 
I'm not blaming them. I'm saying they always have been and will be fine. So I don't feel the need to protect them. They will fend for themselves.


Yeah imma not down with that line of thinking...."you have money so i'm going to destroy your reputation forever, but because of the size of your bank account i don't care what happens to you.." Hard pass on that.
 
i can't believe there is even a demand for it....its sick AF

Grown up woman who is naked in your bed voluntarily and knows what she's doing...or some 12 year old terrified little girl? hmmm, that's a tough one!! Fvcking sicko's
100% agree. Or to take it further, some 13 year old who is drugged up. Sick people.
 
I'd be willing to bet my life savings on the fact that it is indeed a conspiracy.
Well I can give you my venmo, because I just posted an article confirming "informants".....You clearly haven't done any of your own research and were listening to Liz Cheney if you didn't know this stuff.

And Kash Patel is literally probably the most invested guy they could've picked on this topic....so if there is evidence that these people were agents, and not informants, which the watchdogs and whistleblowers are claiming.....then he will release it
 
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No, the documents I reviewed are rated E for everyone. Just names, initials and designations of males and females on flight logs and of course the flight info - date, to and from. It shows other lists of names with heavily redacted data. Nothing in the 224 page dump was what Bondi referenced as being sickening.
It was a show. “Transparency” without transparency.
 
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This is close to getting locked. If you can't discuss it without talking about politicians and politics, then we can't discuss it on this board.
Sorry boss. Tempers flared when someone spent 2 pages arguing that the FBI is a radical extension of a certain political figure.

Even though they've been his/her chief prosecutor for literally a decade. And he/she have spent hundreds millions of dollars fighting them in court, with no legal blow being landed....sometimes it's just easier to cut the BS and be direct when someone is that delusional

Hope you're enjoying the nice weather
 
100% that just because someone's name is on the list, that doesn't mean they were participating in diddling underage girls. Im sure there were some, but the vast majority were were just doing what people of wealth and influence do...hanging out with other people of wealth and influence. I would think (hope) most of the general public would know that.
I think you're giving way too much credit to the general public.
 
Bondi is accusing Patel of withholding files? I thought Patel was release everything guy? No idea how these people aren't on the same page.
Bondi made her initial demand for the docs while Patel was stilling in confirmation meetings. Initially, the FBI handed over a couple hundred docs and said that was it. Well, a whistleblower in the Bureau told Bondi, "Nope, there are thousands of docs and the NYC FBI Field Office was holding them."
That's when Bondi told Patel to get ALL the docs and then investigate anyone who had a part in withholding them; fire anyone who was involved in withholding them and then go after them for criminal charges.

I hope Bondi and Patel have VERY good security otherwise they could wind up committing suicide like Epstein.
 
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What did the guy in power gain yesterday? Please show me the headline or paint me the positive framework of "My AG makes a big bold announcement, releases a big nothing burger, then further discredits the FBI, who report to her and refelct on her and my new FBI director." All to blame the FBI that the voters already hate and distrust at 50 year lows...Sounds logical
Exactly.... You stated it perfectly. Another shiny object to distract the masses. A great way to reinforce that hatred and distrust. Another in a long line of comments and accusations that never truly flourish into anything of merit.
 
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