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Officiating Michigan -OSU. ....... Wow

The good thing is they got the spot right. Maybe ttun should have played a hint of defense on the following play.

they should have tackled Samuel on third down when they had him cornered 2 or 3 times for a loss instead of letting him run laterally about 40 yards and ultimately weave upfield to within a 1/2 yard of the first down. They had him dead to rights for a loss or no gain which would have forced a long FG attempt from a kicker who was shaky in order to extend OT.
 
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Tennis? Really?

Here is the problem with chips. In football the line to gain is not stationary like it is in Tennis or Volleyball. You would either have to have readers covering every inch of the field or all around the perimeter of the field that could read through people. In tennis the readers are only on the boundary lines and only trigger if the ball hits the line.
 
Bruce must be asleep again. He was told he is wrong, claimed he knew the rules (when in reality it was obvious he has zero clue).
 
Have watched that replay at least 20 times. I can't determine how anyone could definitively say he did or did not reach the 15. It had to be less that a centimeter difference either way.

If the officials spotted him one inch short they would not have overturned it either.

I think Harbaugh needs better glasses. That play was as close as it gets. No way was he 8 inches short. My guess is that he's either exaggerating greatly or really had no decent angle or view of the runner which is not uncommon for a coach.
 
This argument is just stupid. How does that chip know when the knee, elbow, or forearm go down.
Because its not the 1950s. With today's technology you can sinc up the chip with certain frames (such as when a knee, elbow or forearm goes down). Btw, if you didn't know we now also have phones that aren't connected to a cord in the wall and aren't rotary. We also have TVs that are flat and look almost like real life. Amazing!!!
 
Because its not the 1950s. With today's technology you can sinc up the chip with certain frames (such as when a knee, elbow or forearm goes down). Btw, if you didn't know we now also have phones that aren't connected to a cord in the wall and aren't rotary. We also have TVs that are flat and look almost like real life. Amazing!!!
You are grasping to make a desperate attempt at covering a stupid stance. There needs to be someone there to physically mark the ball and put it in play. You think a unicorn is going to fart the ball over to it's correct position on the hash mark?
Maybe a leprechaun can use his magic and magically float the ball to the place the magic computer tells him.
Oh, and lets take away home plate umps in baseball. That way everyone can wait for each call to come up on the scoreboard, while still trying to play the game.
 
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You are grasping to make a desperate attempt at covering a stupid stance. There needs to be someone there to physically mark the ball and put it in play. You think a unicorn is going to fart the ball over to it's correct position on the hash mark?
Maybe a leprechaun can use his magic and magically float the ball to the place the magic computer tells him.
Oh, and lets take away home plate umps in baseball. That way everyone can wait for each call to come up on the scoreboard, while still trying to play the game.
Wow...how backwards is your lifestyle? Technology is pretty cool. Don't fear it. Putting a chip (or multiple chips) in a ball would be a simple leap forward that could be used for controversial calls. It's basically a gps system and really not all that complicated.

I mean was it all that scary when football decided they would record things with moving picture technology....sometimes even slow it down or hell...make it go backwards...so they can review a play/call? Does that sound like witchcraft to you?
 
Wow...how backwards is your lifestyle? Technology is pretty cool. Don't fear it. Putting a chip (or multiple chips) in a ball would be a simple leap forward that could be used for controversial calls. It's basically a gps system and really not all that complicated.

I mean was it all that scary when football decided they would record things with moving picture technology....sometimes even slow it down or hell...make it go backwards...so they can review a play/call? Does that sound like witchcraft to you?
Yes. It's so confusing.
It was a 1st down. Stop whining like a bitch
 
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Wow...how backwards is your lifestyle? Technology is pretty cool. Don't fear it. Putting a chip (or multiple chips) in a ball would be a simple leap forward that could be used for controversial calls. It's basically a gps system and really not all that complicated.

I mean was it all that scary when football decided they would record things with moving picture technology....sometimes even slow it down or hell...make it go backwards...so they can review a play/call? Does that sound like witchcraft to you?

I like technology too, but it sounds like a lot to figure out not just where the ball got to, but exactly when it happened. I assume you know it wouldn't be good enough just to figure out how far forward a ball went.
 
Tennis? Really?

Here is the problem with chips. In football the line to gain is not stationary like it is in Tennis or Volleyball. You would either have to have readers covering every inch of the field or all around the perimeter of the field that could read through people. In tennis the readers are only on the boundary lines and only trigger if the ball hits the line.

Not following your argument. It's basically a gps system. If you have chips at each end it can tell you the position of the ball at any time. For example, it could tell you the most forward point of the ball is on the 15 and a half yard line during a specific frame in which say a knee is determined down. If the yard to gain is the 15 yard line you then know he didn't make it. Don't know why you can't understand how technology works. The chip(s) aren't telling you we're the line to gain is...just where the ball is.
 
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I like technology too, but it sounds like a lot to figure out not just where the ball got to, but exactly when it happened. I assume you know it wouldn't be good enough just to figure out how far forward a ball went.
It's actually less to figure out than the current system. Refs and replay officials already determine when a player is down and/or forward progress is stopped. That is a human call that already happens and would not change with chips. However, they also have to decipher where the ball is from a variety of angles...most which are imperfect. All the chips would do is tell you precisely where the ball is when they determined it was down or forward progress was stopped. Sounds like less to figure out to me...
 
It's actually less to figure out than the current system. Refs and replay officials already determine when a player is down and/or forward progress is stopped. That is a human call that already happens and would not change with chips. However, they also have to decipher where the ball is from a variety of angles...most which are imperfect. All the chips would do is tell you precisely where the ball is when they determined it was down or forward progress was stopped. Sounds like less to figure out to me...

GPS is a fine idea, however, currently GPS is only accurate to 3.5 meters 95% of the time. So your theory of providing a pinpoint location/spot of a football is obsolete. GPS spotting would be approximately 4 yards off. Officials might miss a spot or two, but they're more accurate than GPS would be.

GPS Accuracy Source
 
GPS is a fine idea, however, currently GPS is only accurate to 3.5 meters 95% of the time. So your theory of providing a pinpoint location/spot of a football is obsolete. GPS spotting would be approximately 4 yards off. Officials might miss a spot or two, but they're more accurate than GPS would be.

GPS Accuracy Source
That's with a sattelite dude (clearly stated in what you linked)...a localized system can get it pretty exact...don't think you'll need to deal with things like atmospheric effects and sky clearage if the receivers are in the stadium
 
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So...this is now foolish AND nerdy? Hey, Michigan dorks, we get, it sucks. Nothing is going to change by you crying or acting like the scientist for The Simpsons.
Actually things do change by bitching. Many rules have. As it regards Michigan we got the rule changed that clock operators are supplied by the home team after the "Spartan Bob" incident. They are now independent. You should learn the history of your new conference. I agree it won't change the past but it can effect the future.

Speaking of which, the B10 is more than a collection of football programs. We pride ourselves on our academics. Being smart (aka nerds) is cool here. If you don't like it, find another conference. BTW, our nerds are tougher and hit harder than the "jocks" in your last conference.
 
Actually things do change by bitching. Many rules have. As it regards Michigan we got the rule changed that clock operators are supplied by the home team after the "Spartan Bob" incident. They are now independent. You should learn the history of your new conference. I agree it won't change the past but it can effect the future.

Speaking of which, the B10 is more than a collection of football programs. We pride ourselves on our academics. Being smart (aka nerds) is cool here. If you don't like it, find another conference. BTW, our nerds are tougher and hit harder than the "jocks" in your last conference.
I grew up in "your" conference...
If you don't like it...find another site.
And being smart has nothing to do with being a nerd.


Question...do you want some aloe for your burn?
 
Why the hell are there Meatchicken fans here bitching about a correct call.
GPS loser is again referencing where the ball is when the knee is down. Apparently they are going to stick to the "forward progress doesn't count" imaginary rule.
And oh yeah, order up some unicorns to fart the ball to the exact nano-meter on his "localized system".
What a bunch of whiny kids.
 
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Why the hell are there Meatchicken fans here bitching about a correct call.
GPS loser is again referencing where the ball is when the knee is down. Apparently they are going to stick to the "forward progress doesn't count" imaginary rule.
And oh yeah, order up some unicorns to fart the ball to the exact nano-meter on his "localized system".
What a bunch of whiny kids.

Hahaha!

"Officials time out of the field… We are waiting for the unicorn to come out to check the measurement "
 
Why the hell are there Meatchicken fans here bitching about a correct call.
GPS loser is again referencing where the ball is when the knee is down. Apparently they are going to stick to the "forward progress doesn't count" imaginary rule.
And oh yeah, order up some unicorns to fart the ball to the exact nano-meter on his "localized system".
What a bunch of whiny kids.
Smh...I'm guessing you and smart have never been used in the same sentence without the word not...besides with your mother...god bless her heart
 
No way in hell do I want things like a GPS chip in the ball. There's talk about using some sort of laser system in baseball to call balls and strikes. I'm just fine with leaving the human element in sports. That's what makes it exciting to me. Do umps/refs miss calls? Of course they do. Do coaches and players make calls or plays to win or lose games? Yes they do. Nobody is perfect and I'm fine with that. Hell, Nebraska may have a couple more national championships with replay, but it doesn't bother me. Who knows, replay may cost us a title or two. To this day we still talk about the Penn State player being out of bounds or William Floyd's non fumble call. We have already taken some of the error element out of games with replay and I think that's enough. I dunno, maybe it's just me but I like the human element to the game.
 
Smh...I'm guessing you and smart have never been used in the same sentence without the word not...besides with your mother...god bless her heart
She's a nice lady. Better than the beast that raised a little bitch that whines where nobody cares. Do you need attention?
 
Hold on,I might not be smart enough to understand this because I did not grow up in Michigan but if the unicorn is a robot does it still have its magic?
Lol...I thought I would just stop responding and read (and laugh at your responses) but this takes the cake. You assume a poster from Umich is from Michigan? You do realize that Michigan has a massive out of state student/alumni population? I am from NYC (born, bread and currently live). Michigan is a national/international institution and I was out of state. While not the same degree, I assume UNL attracts out of state students as well (well, more than assume...I know it does).

I only bring this up because anyone who assumes a Michigan fan/grad...well a Nebraska grad...is from that state probably isn't educated. It's not your fault...stupid is as does.
 
Lol...I thought I would just stop responding and read (and laugh at your responses) but this takes the cake. You assume a poster from Umich is from Michigan? You do realize that Michigan has a massive out of state student/alumni population? I am from NYC (born, bread and currently live). Michigan is a national/international institution and I was out of state. While not the same degree, I assume UNL attracts out of state students as well (well, more than assume...I know it does).

I only bring this up because anyone who assumes a Michigan fan/grad...well a Nebraska grad...is from that state probably isn't educated. It's not your fault...stupid is as does.
Nope...I didn't assume that, you assumed that I assumed that.
Like I said...I am actually from Big Ten country...the original Big Ten.

Did you use "lol"... I respect the hell out of you for using that!
 
Lol...I thought I would just stop responding and read (and laugh at your responses) but this takes the cake. You assume a poster from Umich is from Michigan? You do realize that Michigan has a massive out of state student/alumni population? I am from NYC (born, bread and currently live). Michigan is a national/international institution and I was out of state. While not the same degree, I assume UNL attracts out of state students as well (well, more than assume...I know it does).

I only bring this up because anyone who assumes a Michigan fan/grad...well a Nebraska grad...is from that state probably isn't educated. It's not your fault...stupid is as does.
Wait... so you can be from a different state and still go to Michigan?
You learn something new every day.
 
He argued that there is no need to measure since the ball was marked on the 15. Then you convoluted the discussion with disputing where the ball was spotted.

As I said before two totally different discussions going on.
This is hilarious. Its like people arguing with eachother but not arguing with each other.
"Level three on the toaster always burns the toast, im telling you!"
"Youre wrong! Tomato goes on the bottom slice of toast, THEN the bacon!"
"Whatever numnuts, read the manual, level three is for bagels not toast!"
"You really think lumpy bacon presents an even surface for stacking the rest? Whatever."
 
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