NU's fumbled the bag on NIL

[Redmich]

Buffet loves Husker football but won’t spend a dime on it. However, people in charge need to think creatively. Who does business with Hathaway? Basically everyone. Get them so spend money on local commercials with football Husker players to catch his attention. You dam well know Buffet has all of the cable news and market channels going all day in his office. Putting a Husker kid in local commercials on these channels might get him to look up from his desk and pay attention. Advertising is for a target market. Sometime that target can be a lot of people or a select group. The outside sources that want Buffers attention and use for Husker players to help catch that attention is endless and much cheaper then most people are willing to spend

the problem is that Hathaway advertises to a national/global (not local) market

a cheesy ad featuring one of the players doesn't do anything to move the needle

and if I am looking for a firm to manage my money, I'm not sure I will have a lot of confidence in a firm that chooses to invest its money in college football players at the local university

 

[Yantzeee]

I really hated Davison’s comments about doing that building project first so all the donors couldn’t just chose NIL. The AD is flush with cash and football is the money maker, they should take on projects like this to free up donors to donate to NIL.

I don’t know where the line is , but we should try to push donating to NIL by the fans as much as possible. Free admission to the Spring Game with a free will donation to 1890. Waive some season ticket fees, with donation to 1890, etc.

Kids care less about facilities then they do about NIL. And we care less about having nicer seats then we do about having a better team.

The reason people will push facility upgrades over NIL is because

1. The revenue for facilities goes toward companies and people (not players) are making lots of money off of the construction.

2. The people that are pushing facilities over NIL are getting kickbacks from the construction companies. They won’t get those kickbacks from NIL.

Nebraska football generates money for many outside services. It’s about dam time our players come first and make the money.

Kids like having a shiny locker room but you ask most 21-18 year olds, they’d rather have $35k in their pocket then a flashy screen in their locker

 

[Yantzeee]

the problem is that Hathaway advertises to a national/global (not local) market

a cheesy ad featuring one of the players doesn't do anything to move the needle

and if I am looking for a firm to manage my money, I'm not sure I will have a lot of confidence in a firm that chooses to invest its money in college football players at the local university

Think you missed it. Not Hathaway marketing but companies market to BH/Buffet. And yes just local advertising could work. Warren isn’t a flashy guy. Still eats at McDonalds basically everyday.

When you say “do anything to move the needle”. Move it to who? Warren loves Nebraska football. Getting his attention is all you want. He’s the only market they need. And he goes beyond just money management, you are also can market to Dairy Queen, Geico, Heinz, and many many more companies via him for so many things they need. Sure Buffet doesn’t manage those companies but he’s still the CEO of the company that owns them. He’s still doing zooms to review financials. Maybe food costs are up at DQ and Buffet says have you looked in to using “Blah blah”

There are so many many ways to capitalize. There’s a target market most people want in Omaha. Just have to get creative. Saying it won’t work just means it won’t work. We won’t work out the kinks of it on this board, but there’s too big of an opportunity out of Omaha to not think of something

 

[moralvictories]

I’m sure nut-hanger Davison will greatly improve things…… hahaha. What a complete turd

Here's an idea, what about getting rid of Davidson and hiring someone competent to manage NIL? Someone besides Matt Rhule because he already has a job as head coach.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Here's an idea, what about getting rid of Davidson and hiring someone competent to manage NIL? Someone besides Matt Rhule because he already has a job as head coach.

Preaching to the choir. He should have never been in the radio booth, given a job as Frosts alcoholic wing man, or the job he has now. He has ZERO qualifications for any of those “jobs”. Look how things ended up. Only blinded cleti thought it was a good idea to have him around. If I was Rhule, I’d request he’s not allowed within 100 miles of my program. He caught a ball 25 years ago. That’s great.

 

[redwine65]

facilites comes from the school side, big network/tv
nil comes from the donor side, private companies
which is good...you don't want the school side involed with nil...

what they should do with nil/donor side is make 1 pool all the money goes in..
then each 1st string player gets paid the same, each second team player gets paid the same, etc..

then all the players on the same level get paid the same..so they don't have johney super star skilled position making 400k, and oline hog making 30k , then everyone complaining bout oline guy...
then the nil pool , looks out for stuff like school image, irs, contracts being honored, etc..

it can be called the red sea nil pool...I think that even money across the board for the 1st team will make a better team...because as we seen last year, johney super star don't go far without a oline..
the oline is pretty much half the team..

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

facilites comes from the school side, big network/tv
nil comes from the donor side, private companies
which is good...you don't want the school side involed with nil...

what they should do with nil/donor side is make 1 pool all the money goes in..
then each 1st string player gets paid the same, each second team player gets paid the same, etc..

then all the players on the same level get paid the same..so they don't have johney super star skilled position making 400k, and oline hog making 30k , then everyone complaining bout oline guy...
then the nil pool , looks out forstuff like school image, irs, contracts being honored, etc..

it can be called the red sea nil pool...I think that even money across the board for the 1st team will make a better team...because as we seen last year, johney super star don't go far without a oline..

That sounds good on the surface, but I’m sure kids will just bounce faster if they aren’t at the level they think they should be

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

I like Matt....without him we have one less Natty and he helped get the most in demand coach in the country here...something we all wanted at the time...thought his play by play was pretty good to....not his fault everyone got what they wished for.

 

[redwine65]

That sounds good on the surface, but I’m sure kids will just bounce faster if they aren’t at the level they think they should be

but look at the guy iowa lost, it wasen''t bout money..he went to bama to win

plus it would be truly about "the players" geting paid..not just the divas
it's not communisum cause the 1st string gets more then the 2nd, and it's easier for the governing bodies to track...they are dealing with 1 enity..not billy's cars sales, bob's plumbing, and joe's cafe

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I like Matt....without him we have one less Natty and he helped get the most in demand coach in the country here...something we all wanted at the time...thought his play by play was pretty good to....not his fault everyone got what they wished for.

Yeah, no. Will never agree his color commentary was even below average. If he was trained for the job, someone would have coached the incessant whining out of him long ago. As for the “everyone wanted him”…. it would be better to say “most”. I sure as hell didn’t want Frost

 

[TruHusker]

You're forgetting the kids parents who this just also appeal to...

Having been in the small business, no I didn't forget about the parents. It is a selling point for sure and my guess is most colleges have the same selling points to a degree. Its the utilization of them that comes down to the student/athlete when the parents aren't around. How many kids take advantage of all those extras?

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Well i'm a happy person by nature so maybe if I wasn't I'd look for the bad in everything like some posters seem to do all the time.....I thought he was good and I'm glad he was part of our program and kudos to him for making a career out of his time here.

 

[Bremser]

It all sounds good to an adult, but what about an 18 year old kid. Since I don't know, I will have to guess that nearly every major college will have this same package to some degree or another. It boils down to money, the tangible thing, not the intangibles they may never need.

The non-qualifier program that Dr. Tom built would beg to differ. There are unique, Nebraska can do them better ideas out there. We may not find them, but they are out there.

 

[rgrachek]

Didn't know NU was so bad on NIL, I thought we were supposed to be leaders with the fan support. Seems like the higher up administration at the university can't tie their own shoes without falling over.

NIL Reality for Nebraska

Really sorry for a little bit of sobering reading this morning with how well the recruiting went yesterday for us. I kind of went off the poll from last week. We will get it back on track with posi…

herbieshangout.com

I think his story is a little outdated. We finished 4th in the B10 in recruiting, as of now.

 

[HuskerOH]

It sounds like Rhule has a vision for NIL. He sees how this can divide a locker room and will take steps to keep this from occurring. I think this has more importance than the total dolled out.

 

[Tetonia]

I'd be curious exactly how deep TAMU donors pockets really are. Say they really spend 35M on a recruiting class. Can they realistically do this every year? Its such ridiculous amounts of money that I honestly don't know.
What I need to find out is how to make such large sums of money that I can also start buying recruits.

It’s Texas Oil $ vs Nebraska $. It ain’t comparable, fellas.

Been sayin it awhile, but there’s no (that I’m aware of) any recorded ranking of what D1 programs have in the bank for NIL expenditures. And while there are obviously several variables to account for (multiple programs in a geographic area, Husker fans vs any other fans, etc) I’d opine that NIL money is at least directly proportional to a University’s ‘General Endowment’, which IS readily available.

NIL does NOT come from general endowment, obviously, they’re mutually exclusive. HOWEVER (and I think it may have been Saban who pointed this out, may not have been) one could assume that a dollar donated to an NIL fund would be a dollar NOT donated by that same donor to that same University’s General endowment. It’s a generalization, but it’s also not wrong.

Where do we stack up in general endowment? Bottom third of the Big10, and outside the top 50 amongst D1 schools.

The numbers don’t lie.

 

[Redmich]

universities will need to get creative in order to funnel money into NIL - not sure they are willing to give up revenue, however

for instance - instead of outright selling advertising rights - these rights - stadium signage, etc - are granted, in part, based on NIL participation

not sure if athletic departments can "donate" money to local charities or businesses - with the idea of that money retuning in the form of NIL

I've said before that the naming rights of position groups should be sold - instead of names on buildings or on scholarship funds - you have the Mr and Mrs ____________ or company name Offensive line,

the media companies that have BIG ten rights have a stake in BIg ten teams performing well nationally - I wonder if those media companies are willing to invest in order to make their product better

not sure if universities can publish rankings of local/state businesses by NIL participation to drive fans to those businesses

 

[oldjar07]

$35 million a year is insane, but funneling money through LLC's, trusts, or other entities is exactly how it should be done.

 

[oldjar07]

Buffet loves Husker football but won’t spend a dime on it. However, people in charge need to think creatively. Who does business with Hathaway? Basically everyone. Get them so spend money on local commercials with football Husker players to catch his attention. You dam well know Buffet has all of the cable news and market channels going all day in his office. Putting a Husker kid in local commercials on these channels might get him to look up from his desk and pay attention. Advertising is for a target market. Sometime that target can be a lot of people or a select group. The outside sources that want Buffers attention and use for Husker players to help catch that attention is endless and much cheaper then most people are willing to spend

Buffett became rich because he was smart with his money. Squandering multi-millions on deals for players is not a smart monetary investment.

 

[Yantzeee]

facilites comes from the school side, big network/tv
nil comes from the donor side, private companies
which is good...you don't want the school side involed with nil...

what they should do with nil/donor side is make 1 pool all the money goes in..
then each 1st string player gets paid the same, each second team player gets paid the same, etc..

then all the players on the same level get paid the same..so they don't have johney super star skilled position making 400k, and oline hog making 30k , then everyone complaining bout oline guy...
then the nil pool , looks out for stuff like school image, irs, contracts being honored, etc..

it can be called the red sea nil pool...I think that even money across the board for the 1st team will make a better team...because as we seen last year, johney super star don't go far without a oline..
the oline is pretty much half the team..

The money to fund the build of that facility comes from donors pockets not the school as much. The building improvement adds an asset to the university. The school benefits way more from donors donating to a revamp of the stadium then they would if donors paid NIL. If the donor has a choice to give them money or the player money, the school will push for them to get the money.

Now you can make a case a donation to the school is deemed a charitable donation which is a tax deduction, and NIL isn’t charitable. However if a business pays a player an NIL, it’s a business deduction for advertising which is actually a better deduction then charitable for tax purposes.

 

[Yantzeee]

Buffett became rich because he was smart with his money. Squandering multi-millions on deals for players is not a smart monetary investment.

Re-read my first sentence where I said “Buffet won’t spend a dime on it”. I’m suggesting others use it as a marketing tool to attract Buffets business.

 

[redwine65]

The money to fund the build of that facility comes from donors pockets not the school as much. The building improvement adds an asset to the university. The school benefits way more from donors donating to a revamp of the stadium then they would if donors paid NIL. If the donor has a choice to give them money or the player money, the school will push for them to get the money.

Now you can make a case a donation to the school is deemed a charitable donation which is a tax deduction, and NIL isn’t charitable. However if a business pays a player an NIL, it’s a business deduction for advertising which is actually a better deduction then charitable for tax purposes.

I think the schools money should cover facilities and coaches pay.....
and the donors should go to nil....

that way the school isn't connected to any shady nil deals..

 

[drubendall]

Dumb A&M fans think they can buy a championship. Have they ever been relevant?

 

[scarletred]

Buffett became rich because he was smart with his money. Squandering multi-millions on deals for players is not a smart monetary investment.

The bottom line too is he isn’t that big of a sports fan… That ‘s the biggest reason he doesn’t sguander any money foolishly….

If I was him I would be like Boone Pickens..

 

[JOHNNY N]

I’m sure nut-hanger Davison will greatly improve things…… hahaha. What a complete turd

You sound jealous

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

You sound jealous

Yes. Super jealous. Cute post. So cute that the resident “special” poster who follows me around like a sad puppy likes it. Very well done

 

[JOHNNY N]

Yes. Super jealous. Cute post. So cute that the resident “special” poster who follows me around like a sad puppy likes it. Very well done

At least you're aware that you sound super jealous.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

At least you're aware that you sound super jealous.

Right. Frosturbators unite!

 

[redwine65]

Dumb A&M fans think they can buy a championship. Have they ever been relevant?

during the big 12 years, I allways seen a&m as a 8-4 team, who played tough at home and had rb's and lb's...

it's kinda funny thats the sec move worked out good for them pretty much but ut followed them..
I don't think a&m likes ut in the way oklahoma does..I think they wanted to leave ut...
where 0u needs ut for recruiting.

 

[EmormousDouchebag]

Preparation H personal player mascot when? What a shitshow. Monetary motivation removes integrity. Cant wait to have every woke corpo sponsor shoved down my throat while watching football. And the cheering from brainless grow louder. You'll never see a player grow up WANTING to play for their home team again. And the crowd erupts! Carry on moralless, your plans are disgustingly fascinating. I'm sure are the important people are standing by taking copious notes whilst waiting for the next genius post.

 

[leodisflowers]

I’m waiting to see the ‘real’ money actually provided. There is a lot of talk but outside some cars and maybe a little cash I think a lot of this is overstated.

 

[BleedRed78]

It sounds like Rhule has a vision for NIL. He sees how this can divide a locker room and will take steps to keep this from occurring. I think this has more importance than the total dolled out.

Exactly. Couple that with recruiting under the radar dudes who might be less likely to up and run somewhere else with the portal after some success here... Could be a uniquely winning recipe in a crazy wild west nil portal world.

 

[coach-ed]

The idea of the NIL option for athletes needs some guidelines ASAP! It was designed to allow athletes to make $ off of their Name/Image/Likeness (using an athletes NIL on video games, tshirts, jerseys….etc) since they can’t “work” at jobs due to their time commitment to their chosen sport, not as a signing bonus to play for a certain school! Like most things, the NCAA dropped the ball by not establishing any guidelines before unleashing the beast!

 

[scarletred]

Yes. Super jealous. Cute post. So cute that the resident “special” poster who follows me around like a sad puppy likes it. Very well done

More like the other way around if anyone follows the history..

You have the biggest hard on for me for the exception of Frost and Davidson..

Everyone is seeing it.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

More like the other way around if anyone follows the history..

You have the biggest hard on for me for the exception of Frost and Davidson..

Everyone is seeing it.

Right. For an illiterate clown who constantly brings up staffs and administrations before them, you sure are a “special” old guy. Stick to believing lies, posting about sports outfits… and while you’re at it maybe mix in some basic reading and writing classes. You are the biggest clown in board history. The mods laugh every time they see you hit the report button. Your mouth-breather reputation is something YOU earned. Frosty and his midget buddy will never have a 3 way with you, no matter how much you white knight for them.
If you are having trouble reading (and comprehending) this, maybe ask one of your great grandkids to explain it to you. Make sure and preserve all those Frosturbator shirts you bought, they may be worth a lot some day to one of your fellow cleti.

 

[RedCap]

I'm sure he'll use it when appropriate but I see Rhule wanting to rely less on NIL as a way to close the deal than some other schools. He seems to prioritize players who aren't in it just for the money. He seems to have no problem rewarding them financially but he's probably also not interested in the money grabbers just looking for the highest bid.

But who knows, we'll see how that shakes out.

 

[redwine65]

people erroneously assume that huge conference payouts/Athletic dept revenue translate into NIL money

NIL and athletic department money are mutually exclusive

NIL comes from wealthy boosters, fans and local/state businesses - of which Nebraska being a small ag state without a bunch of professional programs that pump out multimillionaires may be limited

I would say Nebraska's fan base probably cares more than many about football results and therefore may be more willing to donate their money rather than saving it for a rainy day

Creighton may be better suited with NIL in that they can focus all their money on a few basketball players and not have to dilute it in a football program

mutual omaha, union pacific, con agra, hawkens, kewit, valmont, first national, nfm, first data, excel, hormel, kellogs, omaha steaks, cargil, american national, werner, ect...these guys and alot of others just need a small crowbar for the wallet and pick 1 position to fund, then the govener could just write it off their state tax..

heck hwy 50 new buildings could probably out spend ksu..

it's like coach rhule said...we all gotta be on the same page, pulling in the right direction..a collective effort

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

More like the other way around if anyone follows the history..

You have the biggest hard on for me for the exception of Frost and Davidson..

Everyone is seeing it.

I’m sorry you lost your safe space, snowflake. You’ve been having a tough time since you didn’t get to bang Scotty poo. Keep hitting that report button!

 

[Dean Pope]

Preaching to the choir. He should have never been in the radio booth, given a job as Frosts alcoholic wing man, or the job he has now. He has ZERO qualifications for any of those “jobs”. Look how things ended up. Only blinded cleti thought it was a good idea to have him around. If I was Rhule, I’d request he’s not allowed within 100 miles of my program. He caught a ball 25 years ago. That’s great.

If you know Matt Davison, you would realize that Matt has the personality to be an excellent fund raiser and salesman. The potential is still there. I say give him a chance.

 

[redwine65]

If you know Matt Davison, you would realize that Matt has the personality to be an excellent fund raiser and salesman. The potential is still there. I say give him a chance.

I like frost and davison, sometimes things don't work out in life and we move on.
you take the good then take the bad and there you have them there facts of life.