NU vs Illinois

[scarletred]

2013 after Pelini hat throwing into the officials face ( Iowa game)you would have thought before that happened that year Eichortst you would think had someone in line to replace BP at that time...

I'd question that he didn't have anyone lineup to replace Bo.. So coachDubs I hope you're right that he has somebody already in line which I'm sure he does this time after failing to have someone in line for the Head Coaching job after the 2013 season.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

take an assistant from a blue-blood.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I believe Nebraska needs to look at the type of candidates they hire for basketball. I think the they need to hire a young coach looking for a stepping stone. There would be a sense of urgency in terms of recruiting and winning because the coach would be looking to move on rather than content thinking he has a 6 year plan.

I would rather a coach come on here, attempt to kick ass immediately and leave for a better job than continue to hire these "safe guys" who are viewing Nebraska as a destination.

 

[Bugeater]

Are there any assistants or even HC's at Cincinnati, Butler, Iowa State, Wichita State that might be worth a shot as an assistant or HC at Nebraska? Seems they are getting it done on the hardwood.

Is it just easier to have success at those places than in Lincoln? I don't follow NCAA men's bb like I did back in the 90's, but if the above teams mentioned are doing well, why not UNL? Easier said than done, I know, just wondering where that person and staff are that could make the difference?

 

[coachDubs]

So coachDubs I hope you're right that he has somebody already in line

I don't remember saying that but if I did, I mean I hope he has someone lined up and all but sealed before he cans Miles, if that's what he does. It's expected to be a deep coaches market this off-season. One thing that'll help us if Groce keeps winning at Illinois, I don't want that job opening, if ours is, for many of reasons.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

I don't remember saying that but if I did, I mean I hope he has someone lined up and all but sealed before he cans Miles, if that's what he does. It's expected to be a deep coaches market this off-season. One thing that'll help us if Groce keeps winning at Illinois, I don't want that job opening, if ours is, for many of reasons.

Agreed, Illinois, if it opens, will be the "best" open gig...unless Indian and/Ohio State open.
The Illinois list (who knows how true this is) has these names bing talked about.
Monty Williams (could be an amazing hire)
Fred Hoiberg
Tony Bennet (Midwest ties)
Cuonzo Martin (east St. Louis kid)
Kevin Keatts
Archie Miller
Greg Marshal (will be Indianas top pick, I think)

 

[schuele]

It's time for Tim to be replaced. This years mid-major coaches should be better to choose from vs 2012.
These following guys would be on my short list
-Steve Forbes (ETSU)
-Dan Muller (Illinois state).
- Scott Cross (UTTA)
- Kermit Davis (MTSU)
- Kevin Keatts ( UNC W)

Tim Miles never should have been hired.

Any thoughts on Kyle Smith at U. of San Francisco? First year at USF but has done well with the roster he inherited, after some success at Columbia and as an assistant at St. Mary's. Not a big splash hire by any means, but wondered if he's on anyone's radar.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Because if you dare somehow question Osborne as an athletic director, you are completely hating on him and disrespecting everything he did as a coach. As if his being a hall of fame coach excuses him of making any mistakes as an AD. For instance, if I say that TO is largely responsible for the mess we have in our AD as a whole, I will probably be shouted down from someone as a hater and disrespectful.

I guess I look at it like he earned the right to have a few screwups, since he was directly involved in all 5 of our national titles in football. Without TO's involvement, our athletic department wouldn't be self-funding, and we wouldn't have the beautiful facilities that we have.

Yeah, he probably screwed up on the Erstad and Miles hires, but overall he is still the reason why our athletic department brings in the amount of money that it does to begin with. And him getting us into the B1G is another part of that equation. I can give him a pass on his screwups. He did what he thought would be good for the university's athletic department.

 

[kaz36]

I guess I look at it like he earned the right to have a few screwups, since he was directly involved in all 5 of our national titles in football. Without TO's involvement, our athletic department wouldn't be self-funding, and we wouldn't have the beautiful facilities that we have.

Yeah, he probably screwed up on the Erstad and Miles hires, but overall he is still the reason why our athletic department brings in the amount of money that it does to begin with. And him getting us into the B1G is another part of that equation. I can give him a pass on his screwups. He did what he thought would be good for the university's athletic department.

TO came back to NU at a time when we needed stability and a calming influence in the AD. He did that and I am ever so gracious for that. He did what he needed to do. He righted the ship and did some great things such as the move to the Big Ten and fundraising. That being said, it was time for him to move on. Time to enjoy retirement and let someone else progress the athletic department. I know he felt a sense of duty and that he was the one that was the one to take care of athletics.

I will go to my grave thinking he is one of the best coaches ever. I also think that he made mistakes that kept this program from progressing. That, in no way should take anything away from what he did as a coach. It is ok for people to point out mistakes he made as AD. It doesn't make him any less of a coach.

 

[HuskerDana]

Let's see. Coaching the best player on the planet, winning NBA titles, and making $35 mil over 5 years

oooooooorrrr


Coaching at the school that wouldn't retire your number, that is a below average Big Ten team without a bona fide NBA player on the roster, for half the money.


Call me crazy but Lue ain't the next coach.

You weren't the only one, but hook, line, and sinker.

 

[RealHusker]

Nebraska basketball is one of the most perplexing franchises in all of American sports. It's embarrassing that NU is the only major university that has failed to win a single game in the NCAA tournament. Not all of that is the fault of Tim Miles, of course. He's only responsible for the past 5 seasons.

I imagine every last one of us expected to be farther along in Mile's 5th year than we are now. This is most certainly NOT what anyone had in mind when the supposed nation's finest basketball facilities were built a few years back, along with a brand new arena.

I guess I'm ambivalent about Miles next year. NU hoops is so bizarre that maybe you need to give a guy 6 or 7 years to stabilize it. OTOH, if they believe they can get someone better, go ahead and pull the trigger.

As I always say....it's ain't easy to make the NCAA tournament, but it ain't as hard as Nebraska makes it look.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You weren't the only one, but hook, line, and sinker.

Whatever. People stating stupid shit on a message board has to be discredited because someone will believe it.

 

[spartanhusker]

If Gregg Marshall takes the Indiana job, if it opens, I will PERSONALLY drive to Lincoln and treat you all at a Sonic Happy hour....he MIGHT leave, but I feel it will be a warmer weather job...if I'm Shocker fan, I'm more worried about an ACC job...

 

[JohnRossEwing]

If Gregg Marshall takes the Indiana job, if it opens, I will PERSONALLY drive to Lincoln and treat you all at a Sonic Happy hour....he MIGHT leave, but I feel it will be a warmer weather job...if I'm Shocker fan, I'm more worried about an ACC job...

I do think he is waiting for a blue blood program. Indiana fits that and they can toss crazy money at him but there is still a chance he turns them down.

He has turned down big paydays in the past so maybe you are right!

 

[spartanhusker]

I do think he is waiting for a blue blood program. Indiana fits that and they can toss crazy money at him but there is still a chance he turns them down.

He has turned down big paydays in the past so maybe you are right!

He's making 3.5 mill right now, he has EVERY kid back next year from a 27-4 team, and his wife LOVES Wichita!(I love it, too, but I'm not sure why SHE does )

 

[JohnRossEwing]

He's making 3.5 mill right now, he has EVERY kid back next year from a 27-4 team, and his wife LOVES Wichita!(I love it, too, but I'm not sure why SHE does )

He very well might stay. Also...are you an WSU alum? Ha

 

[spartanhusker]

no...but have lived here for 40 years...

 

[schuele]

If Gregg Marshall takes the Indiana job, if it opens, I will PERSONALLY drive to Lincoln and treat you all at a Sonic Happy hour....he MIGHT leave, but I feel it will be a warmer weather job...if I'm Shocker fan, I'm more worried about an ACC job...

Predictions for 2017:

• Indiana hires Marshall
• Wichita State hires Crean to replace him
• Spartanhusker's head explodes
• SONIC still sucks

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Predictions for 2017:

• Indiana hires Marshall
• Wichita State hires Crean to replace him
• Spartanhusker's head explodes
• SONIC still sucks

Classic!

 

[spartanhusker]

Predictions for 2017:

• Indiana hires Marshall
• Wichita State hires Crean to replace him
• Spartanhusker's head explodes
• SONIC still sucks

I LITERALLY would down and punch Crean in the face...in Christian love, of course!

 

[dinglefritz]

I LITERALLY would down and punch Crean in the face...in Christian love, of course!

3.5 Million is a LOT of reasons for Mrs Marshall to LOVE Wichita. In case you haven't noticed, there are a lot of hot mamas riding around in Benz's with slovenly fat old men 20+ years their senior and the only kind of daddy he is is a sugar daddy. There is no more effective aphrodisiac than the color green.......I can't imagine anybody paying more than 3.5 for Marshall.

 

[Archie Graham]

I care, so do the 15,000+ that fill PBA and those who can't attend games. It's nonsense to say "recycle every 5 years" or "this isn't football" (blue blood, cash cow, top 20 job) but expect quicker results in hoops.

We're basically at the 5-year revolving door anyways; Collier quit after 6, Sadler fired after 6 and Miles may not make it past his 5th. Where has that gotten us? The exact same results, with a much better (current) roster than at any previous point. It's a dangerous game to play as you're basically telling a coach he better nail his first 2 recruiting classes or he won't make it to see his third class through their eligibility.

What would I do? I'd fire Marc Boehm the evening our season ends. I'd then hire the best basketball person available to oversee every little aspect of the program. If that person wants to fire Miles, that's his call. If that person wants to keep Miles, that's his call. If that person wants to fire a certain assistant, or all of them, that's his call. If Miles doesn't like it, there's the door, see ya.

It's time Nebraska takes the sport seriously, and it starts up top with Eichorst and nobody else. Shit, or get off the pot.

I'm not saying 'recycle every five years'. I'm saying you take every single hire seriously; however, if they do not produce to acceptable standards you evaluate the program in totality and move forward with the best possible candidate.

If we fired Boehm and gave Miles one more year I'd be fine with that. However, I think there is enough evidence to date that Miles simply can't get it done.

 

[dinglefritz]

I'm not saying 'recycle every five years'. I'm saying you take every single hire seriously; however, if they do not produce to acceptable standards you evaluate the program in totality and move forward with the best possible candidate.

If we fired Boehm and gave Miles one more year I'd be fine with that. However, I think there is enough evidence to date that Miles simply can't get it done.

95+% of Husker fans apparently feel the same way about Miles as Barfnecht did in his article. One game doesn't change that for anybody other than the manic-depressant minority. He should get another year at least.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

95+% of Husker fans apparently feel the same way about Miles as Barfnecht did in his article. One game doesn't change that for anybody other than the manic-depressant minority. He should get another year at least.

Just means 95% +Barfnecht are wrong or at least dilusional.

It isn't just one poorly played game, They have looked bad in many games this season, in both wins and losses. It's just one poorly game after Lee game to the defense of Miles and bashed Boehm.

Justify delaying the inevitable all you want, just don't come back next year with "I knew it all along"and "we should have fired him 2 years ago" stuff.

 

[dinglefritz]

Just means 95% +Barfnecht are wrong or at least dilusional.

It isn't just one poorly played game, They have looked bad in many games this season, in both wins and losses. It's just one poorly game after Lee game to the defense of Miles and bashed Boehm.

Justify delaying the inevitable all you want, just don't come back next year with "I knew it all along"and "we should have fired him 2 years ago" stuff.

So what's new? I don't think it's inevitable. Barfnecht doesn't think it's inevitable. The question is what does Eichorst think. I suspect that Miles has created enough good will to last at least another year and I highly doubt there are any big money boosters clamoring for his head. So what a few puny FREE board posters think really doesn't matter.

 

[coachDubs]

I'm not saying 'recycle every five years'. I'm saying you take every single hire seriously; however, if they do not produce to acceptable standards you evaluate the program in totality and move forward with the best possible candidate.

If we fired Boehm and gave Miles one more year I'd be fine with that. However, I think there is enough evidence to date that Miles simply can't get it done.

That isn't how I read it, multiple times even again before responding here, but I'll take your word for it. If we take every single hire serious, then why did it take Eichorst 3 years to get the hoops recruiting budget out of the cellar? We're now in the middle of the pack and our disadvantages are way worse than what our football program faces. Why did it take him time to approve of an additional position for Ali? Why didn't Eichorst line up a private jet to fly himself from Florida to honor Tyronn Lue when his jersey was retired?

It's tough to take something serious when you've neglected it for so long.

There's more than enough evidence to get rid of Marc Boehm too. Keeping him, and firing the second coach he has been linked with, is not just ridiculous but a stupid move. If there's a move to be made, I'd prefer both are canned. Do what it takes to bring in Bo Ryan, administratively or as the head coach, and let him get the program off the ground - as he sees fit, from the towel boy to the person who oversees the program. But we both know that's highly unlikely.

Be careful, Mike Riley is in his third year and hasn't accomplished a thing. After all, football is a blue blood, the entire athletic departments cash cow and should never have a losing season. Go ahead, talk about roster deficiencies when Riley took over, the glaring double standard is something I thoroughly enjoy.

 

[Archie Graham]

That isn't how I read it, multiple times even again before responding here, but I'll take your word for it. If we take every single hire serious, then why did it take Eichorst 3 years to get the hoops recruiting budget out of the cellar? We're now in the middle of the pack and our disadvantages are way worse than what our football program faces. Why did it take him time to approve of an additional position for Ali? Why didn't Eichorst line up a private jet to fly himself from Florida to honor Tyronn Lue when his jersey was retired?

It's tough to take something serious when you've neglected it for so long.

There's more than enough evidence to get rid of Marc Boehm too. Keeping him, and firing the second coach he has been linked with, is not just ridiculous but a stupid move. If there's a move to be made, I'd prefer both are canned. Do what it takes to bring in Bo Ryan, administratively or as the head coach, and let him get the program off the ground - as he sees fit, from the towel boy to the person who oversees the program. But we both know that's highly unlikely.

Be careful, Mike Riley is in his third year and hasn't accomplished a thing. After all, football is a blue blood, the entire athletic departments cash cow and should never have a losing season. Go ahead, talk about roster deficiencies when Riley took over, the glaring double standard is something I thoroughly enjoy.

We can agree that Boehm should be replaced.

I'm aware of where Riley stands; however, I think there are other notable signs to indicate Riley is doing good things. In my view, and certainly in the view of some other folks, Miles (at least offensively) hasn't been the same since the departure of his right hand man. Losing White as a transfer was a tough blow this year. His outside shooting would really help offensively. Like I said man, if we give Miles another year, I'm not going to saya peep. That's fine with me. I just don't see it making a notable difference save anothe rmajor variable changing within his coaching structure.

 

[coachDubs]

We can agree that Boehm should be replaced.

I'm aware of where Riley stands; however, I think there are other notable signs to indicate Riley is doing good things. In my view, and certainly in the view of some other folks, Miles (at least offensively) hasn't been the same since the departure of his right hand man. Losing White as a transfer was a tough blow this year. His outside shooting would really help offensively. Like I said man, if we give Miles another year, I'm not going to saya peep. That's fine with me. I just don't see it making a notable difference save anothe rmajor variable changing within his coaching structure.

Good things or not, it's the end results, just like Miles, no? This is the double standard I referenced before. 6-7, 9-4, no division title, continued blowouts, lack of attrition and failure to sign full classes are components that leave me scratching my head from time to time. So now he's entering year 3, with deadly staff changes that should pay off, but when?! Please don't say year 5, 6 or 7 when you're already on record for 5 years with a hoops coach.

Well, then you'll have to explain how we're averaging our highest PPG in conference since the mid 90's. 14 or so seasons, that's a long time.

Craig Smith, the right hand man offensively, eh?

Season numbers

PPG
2013 - 58.3
2014 - 66.8
2015 - 61.5
2016 - 72.2
2017 - 70.4

FG%
2013 - .407
2014 - .427
2015 - .412
2016 - .447
2017 - .421

3PT%
2013 - .307
2014 - .333
2015 - .284
2016 - .347
2017 - .326

FT%
2013 - .692
2014 - .717
2015 - .707
2016 - .730
2017 - .714

Looks to me the Jimmys and Joes have a bigger impact than Craig Smith.

Regardless what happens to Miles, I can't wait for the 2017-2018 season to begin. It's gonna be a heck of an opportunity, one we haven't had in a long, long time.

 

[Archie Graham]

Good things or not, it's the end results, just like Miles, no? This is the double standard I referenced before. 6-7, 9-4, no division title, continued blowouts, lack of attrition and failure to sign full classes are components that leave me scratching my head from time to time. So now he's entering year 3, with deadly staff changes that should pay off, but when?! Please don't say year 5, 6 or 7 when you're already on record for 5 years with a hoops coach.

Well, then you'll have to explain how we're averaging our highest PPG in conference since the mid 90's. 14 or so seasons, that's a long time.

Craig Smith, the right hand man offensively, eh?

Season numbers

PPG
2013 - 58.3
2014 - 66.8
2015 - 61.5
2016 - 72.2
2017 - 70.4

FG%
2013 - .407
2014 - .427
2015 - .412
2016 - .447
2017 - .421

3PT%
2013 - .307
2014 - .333
2015 - .284
2016 - .347
2017 - .326

FT%
2013 - .692
2014 - .717
2015 - .707
2016 - .730
2017 - .714

Looks to me the Jimmys and Joes have a bigger impact than Craig Smith.

Regardless what happens to Miles, I can't wait for the 2017-2018 season to begin. It's gonna be a heck of an opportunity, one we haven't had in a long, long time.

No, it's not just about the endgame. I didn't say that. Nor would I suggest that for either Nebraska program.

Yes. I'm talking about Smith. And yes, without any question, the players are the most important factor. I don't view any of the stats you noted as significant except PPG, and as you noted, this has to do with the fact that our roster was TERRIBLE when he took over. We don't disagree there.

I know you go to lots of games. I watch nearly all of those that are televised. Do you think our offensive philsophy is strong? Do you think it's a recipe for success as we move forward? For example, next year we lose Tai; at times (more than I'd like to see) he is unilaterally creating when we don't appear to be in a clear offensive set. This is going to put more pressure on Watson. It seems to me our offense is significantly less potent when only one of them is on the floor. Who fills that role? Especially in the absence of a consistent outside shooter for kick outs? Hell, that's the extent of our offense. Most of the time (even before injury) we didn't seem all that interested in getting Ed quality touches.

Defense has obviously been dissapointing.

 

[coachDubs]

No, it's not just about the endgame. I didn't say that. Nor would I suggest that for either Nebraska program.

Yes. I'm talking about Smith. And yes, without any question, the players are the most important factor. I don't view any of the stats you noted as significant except PPG, and as you noted, this has to do with the fact that our roster was TERRIBLE when he took over. We don't disagree there.

I know you go to lots of games. I watch nearly all of those that are televised. Do you think our offensive philsophy is strong? Do you think it's a recipe for success as we move forward? For example, next year we lose Tai; at times (more than I'd like to see) he is unilaterally creating when we don't appear to be in a clear offensive set. This is going to put more pressure on Watson. It seems to me our offense is significantly less potent when only one of them is on the floor. Who fills that role? Especially in the absence of a consistent outside shooter for kick outs? Hell, that's the extent of our offense. Most of the time (even before injury) we didn't seem all that interested in getting Ed quality touches.

Defense has obviously been dissapointing.

Results are results though, that's what I mean about end game.

Wait, so our offense was about Smith, but now that is shows we're significantly better putting points on the board - and static with other numbers - it's now due to the roster? And nothing to do with coaching? I think you're in trouble on this one buddy.

Strong? At times, yes. At (more) times, no. It'll only be a recipe for success if it gets more complex. And by that I mean, continued flow as it's something we went away from around the middle of the out of conference schedule as our younger guys were struggling. Miles is a huge G/SF coach so we'll continue to see the positions dominate our offensive sets/identity/flow. Who fills Websters role, from a scoring standpoint? A number of guys, starting with Watson then to Taylor then to Roby & Copeland.

It's tough to get Ed quality touches when defenses don't respect the outside game. Without knowing for sure, I'd bet our inside game had more quality touches when Jack and Jeriah started hitting outside shots after their funk. I'm a huge Morrow fan but he's a one trick pony right now - dunk or reverse lay & that's difficult to maintain for a guy that's 6'7" playing the 5 with limited handles and no jumper (see Jacobson).

Don't even get me started on defense, I wanted Molinari gone the second he was hired.

I figured you'd jump all over my Bo Ryan suggestion. Damn you, you hippy, TTYL.

 

[Archie Graham]

Results are results though, that's what I mean about end game.

Wait, so our offense was about Smith, but now that is shows we're significantly better putting points on the board - and static with other numbers - it's now due to the roster? And nothing to do with coaching? I think you're in trouble on this one buddy.

Strong? At times, yes. At (more) times, no. It'll only be a recipe for success if it gets more complex. And by that I mean, continued flow as it's something we went away from around the middle of the out of conference schedule as our younger guys were struggling. Miles is a huge G/SF coach so we'll continue to see the positions dominate our offensive sets/identity/flow. Who fills Websters role, from a scoring standpoint? A number of guys, starting with Watson then to Taylor then to Roby & Copeland.

It's tough to get Ed quality touches when defenses don't respect the outside game. Without knowing for sure, I'd bet our inside game had more quality touches when Jack and Jeriah started hitting outside shots after their funk. I'm a huge Morrow fan but he's a one trick pony right now - dunk or reverse lay & that's difficult to maintain for a guy that's 6'7" playing the 5 with limited handles and no jumper (see Jacobson).

Don't even get me started on defense, I wanted Molinari gone the second he was hired.

I figured you'd jump all over my Bo Ryan suggestion. Damn you, you hippy, TTYL.

I think the offensive system was better with Smith. I wouldn't say I'm arriving at that from statistics; rather, my feel from watching the games since Miles was hired. Let me just ask you directly: how much do you think Smith was contributing to our offense? Is our offensive system good enough for you?

Dude. Bo Ryan is a boss. I'd be pumped!

 

[spartanhusker]

Love me some Bo Ryan....

 

[coachDubs]

I think the offensive system was better with Smith. I wouldn't say I'm arriving at that from statistics; rather, my feel from watching the games since Miles was hired. Let me just ask you directly: how much do you think Smith was contributing to our offense? Is our offensive system good enough for you?

Dude. Bo Ryan is a boss. I'd be pumped!

I think our offense is in better shape now that it was in 2012 or 2013, not just from a talent standpoint either. I can make a case outside of last year, in large part thanks to AW3, this has been our best offense under Miles. Not from a statistical standpoint of different categories but a flow and pace, although it remains inconsistent. I believe it will continue to develop with the emergence of Tshimanga, who is a true post threat going forward (not this season but 2018 and beyond) that'll eventually allow Morrow and Jacobson to do their thing (dirty work) while opening up the outside.

When we play with pace and/or tempo, and I don't mean run and gun or fast break every time, yes it's (more than) good enough for me. When we don't, it's not good enough.

 

[schuele]

Love me some Bo Ryan....

I feel the same way about Bo Ryan that I do about Sean Miller:

"Man, I can't stand that guy....Wait, you mean as our head coach? Giddyup, I'm in!"

 

[Archie Graham]

I think our offense is in better shape now that it was in 2012 or 2013, not just from a talent standpoint either. I can make a case outside of last year, in large part thanks to AW3, this has been our best offense under Miles. Not from a statistical standpoint of different categories but a flow and pace, although it remains inconsistent. I believe it will continue to develop with the emergence of Tshimanga, who is a true post threat going forward (not this season but 2018 and beyond) that'll eventually allow Morrow and Jacobson to do their thing (dirty work) while opening up the outside.

When we play with pace and/or tempo, and I don't mean run and gun or fast break every time, yes it's (more than) good enough for me. When we don't, it's not good enough.

Thanks.

 

[Harry Caray]

I think the offensive system was better with Smith. I wouldn't say I'm arriving at that from statistics; rather, my feel from watching the games since Miles was hired. Let me just ask you directly: how much do you think Smith was contributing to our offense? Is our offensive system good enough for you?

Dude. Bo Ryan is a boss. I'd be pumped!

I don't think Smith was necessarily the offensive mastermind....but I do think he was valuable in terms of managing the different personalities and egos on the team and building team chemistry. It seemed like the year after the left, the team was just not the same in that area. Meanwhile, Smith has done a great job at USD and has won a conference title in only his 3rd year there.

As for Bo Ryan, it would be great to have a coach of his caliber....but after Carl's shenanigans, there is no chance our department would hire a guy who admitted to a 6-year extramarital affair that resulted in a lawsuit against the university. For Boehm's replacement, I'd rather we go the Billy Devaney route and hire someone from an NBA front office who has some innovative ideas.

 

[coachDubs]

As for Bo Ryan, it would be great to have a coach of his caliber....but after Carl's shenanigans, there is no chance our department would hire a guy who admitted to a 6-year extramarital affair that resulted in a lawsuit against the university.

But we'll employ a coach with 3 DUI's? One is unethical but not against the law, the other is illegal with a jail sentence.

Let's not jump too high on that horse...

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Unreal.