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We just need someone to get us back to mediocrity. We should fire Eichorst so that Dr. Tom can come in and fire Miles and hire a new coach with NU ties.
I'm guessing you are being sarcastic, but who would we WANT with Husker ties? Besides Danny who MARKETED his ties....
No. In my opinion, he must finish in the Top Half of the Big Ten next season, and over .500 in the conference.
I'm guessing you are being sarcastic, but who would we WANT with Husker ties? Besides Danny who MARKETED his ties....
Lue, Piatkowski, and Cookie Belcher. I bet Lue will come back in a minute because he was a Husker.
Edit: I just noticed lite made this suggestion even before I did. We need to get this done right now.
Let's see. Coaching the best player on the planet, winning NBA titles, and making $35 mil over 5 years
oooooooorrrr
Coaching at the school that wouldn't retire your number, that is a below average Big Ten team without a bona fide NBA player on the roster, for half the money.
Call me crazy but Lue ain't the next coach.
oooooooorrrr
Coaching at the school that wouldn't retire your number, that is a below average Big Ten team without a bona fide NBA player on the roster, for half the money.
Call me crazy but Lue ain't the next coach.
Not saying there is a reason or that it is an excuse. It's just what I was witnessing during the first half. I felt that Nebraska was lucky to be down 2 at half because Illinois was playing with much more energy. The team may be running out of gas, and there is no excuse for it.
Names, if there was a change.
Kevin Keatts (not a huge track
Maybe get Lue as the head coach...with Coach K and Coach Williams as his assistants?
Kevin Keatts (not a huge track
Maybe get Lue as the head coach...with Coach K and Coach Williams as his assistants?
Ha ha As was stated earlier, There is a better chance of Les Miles coaching Nebrasketball next, than Tyronn Lue
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Over/under on guys leaving with eligibility left. I am saying the line is set at 2. My guesses (totally guesses, based off gut feelings) Watson and Horne.
I'll take the over
Fuller won't be back
I could see McVeigh, Horne or Roby leaving with the addition of Copeland.
Plus one surprise.
Fuller won't be back
I could see McVeigh, Horne or Roby leaving with the addition of Copeland.
Plus one surprise.
Honestly, who cares who the next hire really is? Obviously, you go out and get the best you can; however, we are a bottom feeder B10 team. The results indicate as such. Hire a reaonable HC and if he fails in five years fire him too. Continue as needed until you find someone that sustains some success. This isn't the football program.
If Watson decides to transfer then Miles should be fired on the spot. But, I can't see him leaving...he's got the keys to a Big 10 program and I doubt he wants to sit out a year. My guess is Fuller is for sure gone as a graduate transfer....also, there are some rumors going around that Palmer's grades are tanking and may be gone at the end of the year because of it.
The firing of Doc Saddler came at the worst year possible. 2012 NCAA tourney had very little Cinderella runs in the torney , so there weren't many mid major coaches on the "up & up" to hire. Illinois hired one of the few in Groce and I'm not sure he'd have been a better hire then Miles. Buzz Williams was another one and he's actually doing a fine job @ Va Tech but other than that, that was about it.
And traditionally that's how an AD at a school in a major conference finds coaches, they look at Cinderella runs in the torney. Not saying that is the only way but Nebraska was never going to land a coach another way. TO had his back against the wall. It's like he needed to go grocery shopping but it occurred before the store had restocked. He was stuck purchasing the items available for sale.
It's time for Tim to be replaced. This years mid-major coaches should be better to choose from vs 2012.
These following guys would be on my short list
-Steve Forbes (ETSU)
-Dan Muller (Illinois state).
- Scott Cross (UTTA)
- Kermit Davis (MTSU)
- Kevin Keatts ( UNC W)
Tim Miles never should have been hired.
And traditionally that's how an AD at a school in a major conference finds coaches, they look at Cinderella runs in the torney. Not saying that is the only way but Nebraska was never going to land a coach another way. TO had his back against the wall. It's like he needed to go grocery shopping but it occurred before the store had restocked. He was stuck purchasing the items available for sale.
It's time for Tim to be replaced. This years mid-major coaches should be better to choose from vs 2012.
These following guys would be on my short list
-Steve Forbes (ETSU)
-Dan Muller (Illinois state).
- Scott Cross (UTTA)
- Kermit Davis (MTSU)
- Kevin Keatts ( UNC W)
Tim Miles never should have been hired.
YES on Forbes
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on Muller(problem with many players and law)
OK on Davis
YESSSSSSSSS on Keatts
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on Muller(problem with many players and law)
OK on Davis
YESSSSSSSSS on Keatts
Keatts just won his conference again, 3rd years in a row? Maybe 4th? He took over a horrible team and they play tough. They shoot a lot of 3's (I think, maybe it just seems like it) and they get in your face on defense.
The guy lost like 10 games as a high school coach and was "the man" and he is recognized as a great recruiter. I think he only makes like 300K a year.
I doubt Keatts would come here, he's an East Coast guy, and he'll get better offers.
Scott Cross seems like a clone of Tim Miles, he's had some success at the mid-major level but no NCAA tourney wins and no assistant coaching experience at the major-conference level. Forbes is a good coach but probably has too much baggage for Eichorst - he was on Bruce Pearl's staff at Tennessee and got a one-year show cause for lying to the NCAA. Eric Musselman is still my favorite mid-major candidate. Otherwise, maybe think outside the box, perhaps an NBA assistant? I say Chip Engelland from the Spurs, considered a shooting guru and has been learning under Pop for over 10 years.
Scott Cross seems like a clone of Tim Miles, he's had some success at the mid-major level but no NCAA tourney wins and no assistant coaching experience at the major-conference level. Forbes is a good coach but probably has too much baggage for Eichorst - he was on Bruce Pearl's staff at Tennessee and got a one-year show cause for lying to the NCAA. Eric Musselman is still my favorite mid-major candidate. Otherwise, maybe think outside the box, perhaps an NBA assistant? I say Chip Engelland from the Spurs, considered a shooting guru and has been learning under Pop for over 10 years.
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I agree on Keatts BUT NU can toss a lot of money at him.
Now...more than likely Keatts will be looked at by NC-State, LSU and Illinois.
Illinois is the best job out of those 3 but LSU might be a bigger draw for him since the SEC is usually horrible.
VCU's head coach, I forget his name, is another coach that they could go after.
I care, so do the 15,000+ that fill PBA and those who can't attend games. It's nonsense to say "recycle every 5 years" or "this isn't football" (blue blood, cash cow, top 20 job) but expect quicker results in hoops.
We're basically at the 5-year revolving door anyways; Collier quit after 6, Sadler fired after 6 and Miles may not make it past his 5th. Where has that gotten us? The exact same results, with a much better (current) roster than at any previous point. It's a dangerous game to play as you're basically telling a coach he better nail his first 2 recruiting classes or he won't make it to see his third class through their eligibility.
What would I do? I'd fire Marc Boehm the evening our season ends. I'd then hire the best basketball person available to oversee every little aspect of the program. If that person wants to fire Miles, that's his call. If that person wants to keep Miles, that's his call. If that person wants to fire a certain assistant, or all of them, that's his call. If Miles doesn't like it, there's the door, see ya.
It's time Nebraska takes the sport seriously, and it starts up top with Eichorst and nobody else. Shit, or get off the pot.
Why would they take the sport seriously, donations are steady, the bldg sells out and they have a relatively cheap staff.
Why would Boehm's job be on the line? His job is to sell tickets and keep First National Bank and Ameritas sponsorships.
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I agree on Boehm. But from every indication I have come across that is a pipe dream. Plus the fact that the HPH bloners love Boehm is an indication he is fairly useless.
I think the coach is responsible for the record. He gets to call the plays, recruit, train, set expectations, and therefore should be held accountable for the results. This is not a volunteer job.
The fans here are extremely loyal and there isn't much entertainment competition (outside of high school). New or same coach, they'll be there next year too.
GBR
The fans here are extremely loyal and there isn't much entertainment competition (outside of high school). New or same coach, they'll be there next year too.
GBR
Then Miles stays, so folks should stop complaining. Donations have flattened, at least the few that are earmarked for basketball. I haven't checked assistant salaries in a couple years so can't comment on that.
Boehm has been a part of 2 (my bad on saying 3 earlier) coaching hires; 1 was fired and a second is on his way of getting canned. Marc doesn't sell tickets or he would've lost his job under Sadler at the Devaney. FNB isn't going anywhere plus, there's another bank that'll take their place immediately without NU losing a thing.
Plus the whole Lue retired jersey fiasco that eventually happened. Way too late. Marc Boehm is inept.
Boehm is inept but Osborne is teflon. Why does he take no blame in keeping an inept administrator on for an extended period of time?
On the subject of being a revolving door at the head coaching position, what difference does it make if you hire a new guy every 6 years and win half your games or if you keep the same guy for 12 years and win half your games? At least firing a coach shows you expect more out of the program, the other just shows a disregard.
On the subject of being a revolving door at the head coaching position, what difference does it make if you hire a new guy every 6 years and win half your games or if you keep the same guy for 12 years and win half your games? At least firing a coach shows you expect more out of the program, the other just shows a disregard.
Because if you dare somehow question Osborne as an athletic director, you are completely hating on him and disrespecting everything he did as a coach. As if his being a hall of fame coach excuses him of making any mistakes as an AD. For instance, if I say that TO is largely responsible for the mess we have in our AD as a whole, I will probably be shouted down from someone as a hater and disrespectful.
You're new around here but as an FYI, you'll never find a post of mine saying Osborne as an AD is teflon. Not even close. I'm one of the few, @4.6.3 as the most vocal, that called him out many of times when he was AD.
We've done the firings after 6 seasons, and possibly 5 seasons in a few weeks, where has it gotten us? A better roster, equal or worse results, more people consistently in the seats. Regardless, IMO we'd have to go through another hire and fire before I think it would actually impact us. Miles is fairly respected in the hoops community so maybe I'm underestimating that too much, but we won't know till it happens, if it even does.
Come to Nebraska and coach where we have phenomenal facilities and support but we don't pay much, never won a tournament game and have very minimal P5 in-state talent. Oh, and by the way, our recruiting budget has been in the bottom three of the conference forever till a year ago where we increased it to middle of the pack. Wait, one more thing, when we retire a jersey to the rafter - our AD isn't even in attendance. But believe me, he supports the program! I forgot, we (supposedly) don't play the AAU game either.
There's a lot of draw for Nebraska but there's 5 times as much negative. We as fans hold the position in a higher regard than reality. Maybe Miles turns it over next year, maybe someone else does or maybe neither happens. We'll find out in a few weeks what Eichorst decides...
We've done the firings after 6 seasons, and possibly 5 seasons in a few weeks, where has it gotten us? A better roster, equal or worse results, more people consistently in the seats. Regardless, IMO we'd have to go through another hire and fire before I think it would actually impact us. Miles is fairly respected in the hoops community so maybe I'm underestimating that too much, but we won't know till it happens, if it even does.
Come to Nebraska and coach where we have phenomenal facilities and support but we don't pay much, never won a tournament game and have very minimal P5 in-state talent. Oh, and by the way, our recruiting budget has been in the bottom three of the conference forever till a year ago where we increased it to middle of the pack. Wait, one more thing, when we retire a jersey to the rafter - our AD isn't even in attendance. But believe me, he supports the program! I forgot, we (supposedly) don't play the AAU game either.
There's a lot of draw for Nebraska but there's 5 times as much negative. We as fans hold the position in a higher regard than reality. Maybe Miles turns it over next year, maybe someone else does or maybe neither happens. We'll find out in a few weeks what Eichorst decides...
