Tough lesson learned here by the young man. Have agreements in writing. Also by quitting I think he should have tuition fees charged to him if he isn’t going to do his part of a scholarship.
NIL Strikes Again
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I don't think he had another year left to transfer, that's why he is redshirting
It’s sounding like no official “offer” was extended. UNLV NIL collective says they never had agreement with him. Looks like an assistant coach saying things he wasn’t authorized to?
Well tbey just signed their name to a much more meaningful statement that leaves zero doubt they didnt offer him what he's claiming. Thats their side anyway.
That would first require unionization. A more direct route would be through an antitrust exemption from Congress, which is not likely. The NCAA once had friends in Congress, but no longer
It said they did not formally or finalize an offer. Doesn’t mean they didn’t offer him something and say what it would be. May not have met the criteria of “formal” and “finalize” but could have still been a promise.
I’m sure the truth is somewhere in the middle. But not a good look for their collective and I would assume he has some type of communication which would help show his side and his expectations.
Spot on other than the last sentence.
The schools would probably love to have restrictions while the players would not. Wouldn't that make the players the "greedy" ones?
If a player quits during the term a scholarship is in effect, the school can rescind the aid (and remove him from his classes)
So, if your kid was promised a certain amount of money to join a specific football program, but the people who made that promise backed out, would you be upset with him for taking a redshirt year? Especially considering he's a senior and this gives him one more chance to secure an NIL deal from someone else? This isn’t a case of a kid quitting at the first sign of adversity—it's a situation where those who promised the money made a business decision not to pay him, so he made a business decision to hold out and preserve his last year of eligibility.
I will say, this kid—and many others—are learning the hard way how the business world operates.
That is very interesting. Interesting how this battle of the public perception plays out.
I don't really care. Just pointing out the most direct route
I had said that earlier….hard lessons learned by these young adults. In this case it appears the assistant coach made an offer to him, but he didn’t have any authority to do so. The UNLV NIL collective says they had met all commitments, they did not agree $100k. The school can’t pay him, they didn’t back out of anything! Again it seems the assistant coach made offer he can’t.
I think the 100 k figure came from the assistant coach that had no authorization to make it . The 100 k figure and the assistant coach reference has been in a couple different tweets about this in different threads on the subject.
Of all the posts on the multiple threads on this subject. This actually made the most sense of what probably happened:
It is unfortunate for the young man. I see a lot of people saying UNLV screwed him…..they can’t pay players so how could they screw him? There is no direct to athlete payments outside of the small stipend that’s been in place for a few years.
If the assistant coach talked about the 100 k he should be dismissed. Thats who screwed the kid if true. If the 100 k story is false fk the kid then. Because I am pretty confident in reading what the UNLV NIL collective released they made no formal offer to the kid.
Went to bed thinking if this kids story was true we'd have screen shots of something from him by now. Email, snapchat, X, texts??? Gimme something...just dont claim this 100K offer existed with zilcho to back it up because what he's saying happened is very unorthodox...Also, and somebody correct me if i'm wrong, but all the info I could find on the subject says a coach cannot do what this kid is claiming, is that right?
I wonder if the kid is full of it and is lying his butt off to justify one more shot elsewhere for an NIL deal...did he lie to his dad initially by claiming this and he's in to far now? Thats the direction i'm leaning.
I wonder if the kid is full of it and is lying his butt off to justify one more shot elsewhere for an NIL deal...did he lie to his dad initially by claiming this and he's in to far now? Thats the direction i'm leaning.
Just listened to his agents take and again, he is claiming the same as the player...so the player is repped by an agent...and neither has any proof of this offer? Worst, agent, ever.
I wonder if he has been making these demands all summer for the $100,000? Played 3 games to show he can play? Why not 4?
I'll even take an after the fact text..."Hey coach, season started, where's the money.."?
"Hey coach, first game is in the books, where's my money..."?
"Hey coach, did you talk to the NIL people yet and what did they say, we're 2 games into the season, where's the money..."?
Agent- "Where do we stand on the 100K you promised my client.."?
Agent-"Directly offering a kid pay for play is totally illegal but I'm willing to keep quiet if you just honor our agreement..."
The replies to any of those would be really telling.
I'm bummed about this because I suspect this is going to be a thing now and kids who had deals will want to renegotiate and sit out playoffs fpr a pay bump and lie about it all together. Welcome to the new CFB
"Hey coach, first game is in the books, where's my money..."?
"Hey coach, did you talk to the NIL people yet and what did they say, we're 2 games into the season, where's the money..."?
Agent- "Where do we stand on the 100K you promised my client.."?
Agent-"Directly offering a kid pay for play is totally illegal but I'm willing to keep quiet if you just honor our agreement..."
The replies to any of those would be really telling.
I'm bummed about this because I suspect this is going to be a thing now and kids who had deals will want to renegotiate and sit out playoffs fpr a pay bump and lie about it all together. Welcome to the new CFB
Who's footing the bill? Schools, donors and collectives. Of course the kids are going to take what they can get. The adults in the room need to say enough is enough. That's on the Schools!
So the schools, donors and collectives are the greedy ones for footing the bill that goes towards the athletes and not keeping more for themselves?
Yeah, I remember when it first started to become a thing for pro players to hold out for bigger contracts. I thought it was disgraceful. Now it happens all the time. I also remember when college seniors with an NFL future started sitting out of (meaningless) bowl games so as not to risk injury. I thought it was disgraceful. Now it happens all the time. I assume this type of thing will be more of the same. As I said earlier, we probably better get used to it.
Are players even required to go to class and maintain a minimal grade anymore?
I know you have a disdain for capitalism, but this doesn't make any sense. Feeding the beast doesn't mean you're greedy. It means you're providing a service.
Sounds like a casino stepped up and offered to pay the 100K after all this came to light and the school said nope...story I just read says the school is still claiming he came to them after season started and wanted the 100K, which they still contend was never offered, and that caving to the kid was not what they wanted to do....that it was a matter of principal to them not to handle it the way the kid did.
Not sure I would have turned that down if I was the school and or NIL partner...I don't like what I still think happened, but how do you turn that down to keep your starting QB?
..guess he'll have to take his 42% competition percentage and can quit attitude somewhere else.
Not sure I would have turned that down if I was the school and or NIL partner...I don't like what I still think happened, but how do you turn that down to keep your starting QB?
..guess he'll have to take his 42% competition percentage and can quit attitude somewhere else.
Gawd I hope so. Please tell me they have to still at least pretend to care about that stuff
Pretty crazy story all the way around. The Circa CEO offered it, and UNLV was like 'he's not on the team anymore and wouldn't be welcomed back regardless". Circa CEO is smart though, UNLV football fans won't forget him trying to step up and fix it. Good way to get more locals to visit. I use them for sports betting already but definitely more likely to visit their casino next time I'm on Fremont St.
Woof. Looks really bad on the part of UNLV... But potentially saves the product on the field from threat of players sitting out for what should be simple, fleshed out contractual stuff to begin with.
Another step in the process of unionizing players I suppose, lest the powers that be can figure out hard contractual stuff up front and league wide restrictive and such in the NIL game.
I suspect something will eventually give though, sooner than later.
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