NCAA wants the govt to screw up NIL

[GBRforLife1]

Have you ever watched college football and thought "Man this would be so much better if the govt were involved?"

Draft NIL bill aims to "save college sports as we know it"

The question of whether college athletes should be employees looms over the conversation about setting a national standard on name, image and likeness rights. “People should be careful what they wish for,” a softball player testified Thursday.

www.insidehighered.com

 

[Lincoln100]

This might be the one thing government won’t make worse

 

[schuele]

It’s funny how the ADs never worried about ruining amateur athletics when their salaries were skyrocketing, or when they played Santa Claus with coaches in the form of rollover extensions and golden parachutes. Someone should introduce a bill to take those financial packages back to “the good ol’ days” and watch all the ADs’ heads explode.

 

[redwine65]

I would say allow nil, but take the money and put it in a pool and give it evenly to the players...then just put a cap on the pool, around what UNL can spend...

 

[skintight]

I would say allow nil, but take the money and put it in a pool and give it evenly to the players...then just put a cap on the pool, around what UNL can spend...

Are you a socialist?

 

[huskerfan66]

I'm from the government and I am here to help you.... gag

 

[GBRforLife1]

This might be the one thing government won’t make worse

Yeah... Hold your breath.

 

[redwine65]

Are you a socialist?

calvinist...common good

 

[BugsAreQualityProtein]

I could see this happening if the NFL and its disgruntled owners lobby for it. Star college players are making multiple times the amount of a rookie contract. Sooner or later rookies who are drafted or signed will demand to be paid more than the league minimum. You’re already seeing it to an extent with players weighing to forgo their eligibility and go pro, or stay another year and reap the NIL benefits.

 

[BleedRed78]

I could see this happening if the NFL and its disgruntled owners lobby for it. Star college players are making multiple times the amount of a rookie contract. Sooner or later rookies who are drafted or signed will demand to be paid more than the league minimum. You’re already seeing it to an extent with players weighing to forgo their eligibility and go pro, or stay another year and reap the NIL benefits.

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

I'm from the government and I am here to help you....

I say that with sincerity a hundred times a day. Of course I'm a border patrol agent so ...

 

[huskerfan66]

I say that with sincerity a hundred times a day. Of course I'm a border patrol agent so ...

More like here's the keys to the country 🙄

 

[mpdk91]

If the government, especially this one, gets involved the money will have to be allocated on the basis of skin color and "gender". Of course, they will also make double sure that it is all taxable and the taxes are collected.

 

[oldjar07]

You know, sometimes the old way of doing things just worked. The fallout from NIL and the transfer portal in the last few years is the exact reason those things didn't exist before that in the first place. If you want to put a cap on coaching salaries and go back to the old model, that'd be fine by me. And if the athletes want to be paid, well then they will get the same criticism as paid athletes do when they fail or don't meet expectations. And despite the rosy facade this board likes to paint all the time with everything, my critiques are quaint pleasantries compared to the type of stuff that gets thrown at underperforming pro athletes.

 

[Cedric]

I could see this happening if the NFL and its disgruntled owners lobby for it. Star college players are making multiple times the amount of a rookie contract. Sooner or later rookies who are drafted or signed will demand to be paid more than the league minimum. You’re already seeing it to an extent with players weighing to forgo their eligibility and go pro, or stay another year and reap the NIL benefits.

I'm all for it, as long as coaches and administrators agree to a cap on their salaries

 

[rgrachek]

Have you ever watched college football and thought "Man this would be so much better if the govt were involved?"

Draft NIL bill aims to "save college sports as we know it"

The question of whether college athletes should be employees looms over the conversation about setting a national standard on name, image and likeness rights. “People should be careful what they wish for,” a softball player testified Thursday.

www.insidehighered.com

It can't really get much worse than it is now.

 

[dinglefritz]

It can't really get much worse than it is now.

The NCAA has one power that they haven’t given up. They could use that to get this under control. That one power is eligibility to play. Get rid of the immediate eligibility for transfers and it would dramatically limit transfers.

 

[jmliehr]

The NCAA has one power that they haven’t given up. They could use that to get this under control. That one power is eligibility to play. Get rid of the immediate eligibility for transfers and it would dramatically limit transfers.

Please lay out a reason why the NCAA should have this power? Other than to rebalance the money into the hands of predominantly older white men, what is actually being harmed?

 

[Huskers123456]

If the government, especially this one, gets involved the money will have to be allocated on the basis of skin color and "gender". Of course, they will also make double sure that it is all taxable and the taxes are collected.

It's already taxed.....

 

[dinglefritz]

Please lay out a reason why the NCAA should have this power? Other than to rebalance the money into the hands of predominantly older white men, what is actually being harmed?

To return some sanity to the transfer portal. Some benefit financially in many cases at the expense of other student athletes. It’s a similar logic to the NFL limiting when young players can declare for the draft. At some point you need to protect some of these guys from illogical greed.

 

[jmliehr]

To return some sanity to the transfer portal. Some benefit financially in many cases at the expense of other student athletes. It’s a similar logic to the NFL limiting when young players can declare for the draft. At some point you need to protect some of these guys from illogical greed.

So it prepares them for the real world, and it’s a bad thing? There are absolutely safety nets that could be put in place, the schools could pay coaches and AD’s less, stop spending as much on facilities, and give the players a direct cut.

Maybe we should enforce coaches sitting out a year if they take another job? How about making them pay back their salaries when they depart a school? Maybe the coaches should even compensate the kids that they recruited then left to fend for themselves?

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

I wonder if any of the coaches getting "Mel Tucker" contracts are also throwing dollars into their schools NIL collective? Or is that a no no?

 

[Huskers123456]

To return some sanity to the transfer portal. Some benefit financially in many cases at the expense of other student athletes. It’s a similar logic to the NFL limiting when young players can declare for the draft. At some point you need to protect some of these guys from illogical greed.

The NFL has the restriction in place for the benefit of the NFL, not the kids. The NFL wants players mature and developed before they start paying them. No point in paying kids to "redshirt" in the NFL.

 

[beaglehusker]

It can't really get much worse than it is now.

Sure it can, and likely will

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

Sure it can, and likely will

From my days back when I had a substance abuse problem: "You haven't hit rock bottom if you can say, 'I've hit rock bottom' "

 

[rgrachek]

Sure it can, and likely will

How so, it's the wild wild west now

 

[Husker Sledge]

It can't really get much worse than it is now.

As bad as it is, things can always get worse when the government is involved.

 

[GBRforLife1]

It can't really get much worse than it is now.

Yeah, the govt really makes everything better doesn't it?

When you think of governance and all the ways NCAA has screwed over the student athletes you think getting Washington DC involved will help? Wow.

 

[dinglefritz]

The NFL has the restriction in place for the benefit of the NFL, not the kids. The NFL wants players mature and developed before they start paying them. No point in paying kids to "redshirt" in the NFL.

And how much different is that than saying fine, you want to transfer then you’re going to either make it work where you’re at or you’re going to sit out a year?

 

[Yantzeee]

I would say allow nil, but take the money and put it in a pool and give it evenly to the players...then just put a cap on the pool, around what UNL can spend...

Tell me you’re a socialist without telling me you are a socialist.

Seriously would you be ok with this in any other role? How about we take all the wages your company pays entity wide and distribute them evenly. The janitor makes just as much as the CEO. What a clown show

am I the only one on this board that believes in free enterprise or capitalism or fair wages?

 

[GBRforLife1]

How so, it's the wild wild west now

I keep thinking you'll stop being ignorant and I am continually wrong. I've now learned my lesson.

 

[HuskerAlum92]

I could see this happening if the NFL and its disgruntled owners lobby for it. Star college players are making multiple times the amount of a rookie contract. Sooner or later rookies who are drafted or signed will demand to be paid more than the league minimum. You’re already seeing it to an extent with players weighing to forgo their eligibility and go pro, or stay another year and reap the NIL benefits.

If this were to unfold and I was an NFL owner, I would NOT adjust the pay scale according to NIL. If you want to be the guy that plays age 26 against 18 year olds, then go for it. If you want to play with the big boys for championships, we just aren't going to spoil you too much as rookies walking in the door into our successful and established league.

 

[redwine65]

Tell me you’re a socialist without telling me you are a socialist.

Seriously would you be ok with this in any other role? How about we take all the wages your company pays entity wide and distribute them evenly. The janitor makes just as much as the CEO. What a clown show

am I the only one on this board that believes in free enterprise or capitalism or fair wages?

well it's better then not paying players..the problem is if it's pay for play then just the larger schools will win anything (monopoly)...so there needs to be some balance..it's why they broke up standard oil and such.

it's a position outside of the ary rand, sell her mom for a dollar capitalisum, and 0bama and biden marxism..
like a calvinist biblical capitalist American...

lets say someone decides they could save 10 grand dumping toxic waste down a creek..this love of money has to be curbed in some way for the common good..

calvin started capitalisum by allowing intrest on money borrowed to make money...thusly building capital....
but this did not include clinton predatory lending...it takes discernment, checks and balances, and reform..always

finally, you would give the 1st string more then the 2nd, and so on, leaving the competive aspect

 

[rgrachek]

I keep thinking you'll stop being ignorant and I am continually wrong. I've now learned my lesson.

Jesus what a complete ass hole. Why did you bother with this crap^^^.

 

[rgrachek]

Yeah, the govt really makes everything better doesn't it?

When you think of governance and all the ways NCAA has screwed over the student athletes you think getting Washington DC involved will help? Wow.

When did I propose that the government get involved? All I said was that it can't get much worse. You call me ignorant and you can't read or even remember who posted what about what!

You exposed yourself with the "NCAA has screwed over student athletes" comment. The NCAA is what administers college sports, something that frankly is pretty dubious in it's own right (college sports). The schools and the NCAA have provided an environment where kids, including a lot of minority kids, could have an opportunity get out of their bad environments and go to colleges that they would never get to go to otherwise, or even go to college period. If we wanted to be intellectually honest, we would come to the conclusion that these competitive sports shouldn't be nested in educational institutions of higher learning.

Sports in Junior High and High School are supposed to be (and are for the most part) ECs for all of the students to participate, and that's great. College sports is not for the general student population but rather a money making scheme for the colleges doing something that has nothing to do with academics. They might as well open up a auto factory on campus and call it the University Car Department and make all of the workers be full time students when they're not building cars.

You know all of this is true, you're just not capable of coming up with your own thoughts.

 

[rgrachek]

As bad as it is, things can always get worse when the government is involved.

Please explain how the government can make it worse. You have a complete unregulated system of buying players for college sports now.

Maybe you like the new system and don't want the bad thing screwed up.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Not making kids sit a year if they transfer is another, in a long line, of safety nets we like to put under the entire country so as few people as possible have to be held accountable for their decision.

 

[oldjar07]

Please lay out a reason why the NCAA should have this power? Other than to rebalance the money into the hands of predominantly older white men, what is actually being harmed?

Because these are student athletes, not mercenary athletes. If there are limitations for eligibility in terms of a running clock, I think it is perfectly justifiable that there be limitations in eligibility for transfers.

 

[oldjar07]

The schools/NCAA aren’t going to be able to institute what is essentially a noncompete (transfer restrictions) on an entity (the players) that they don’t consider employees

The schools/NCAA are trying to maintain or impose employee restrictions on non-employees. That will die in the courts.

The schools could declare the players employees and then some of the restrictions might fly although noncompetes are becoming more and more difficult to enforce. The courts may declare athletes employees of the school regardless

Participating in college sports is a privilege, not a right. I don't see how this applies.

 

[oldjar07]

So it prepares them for the real world, and it’s a bad thing? There are absolutely safety nets that could be put in place, the schools could pay coaches and AD’s less, stop spending as much on facilities, and give the players a direct cut.

Maybe we should enforce coaches sitting out a year if they take another job? How about making them pay back their salaries when they depart a school? Maybe the coaches should even compensate the kids that they recruited then left to fend for themselves?

College football got along just fine for decades without these rules, so I don't see the need for them now.